Social Smash 4 Social Topic 2.0

[TeenGirlSquad]

In 100% complete seriousness, what the hell happened to this section of the forum today? It's hatred and rage and arguments in almost every topic I look in! O_o

It's because a lot of people are

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's because a lot of people are

Disappointed with what?

Nintendo killed at E3 this year

 

[Xyro77]

Hey guys/girls, today I got a chance to play one match on the Smash 4 demo at BestBuy in Webster, tx. Before I begin, please keep some things in mind while reading what I have typed and watching the video I have posted.

A. We used the WiiU Pro controller. Its that XB360 looking controller.

B. One match set at 2min with items on. It was also a Free-4-All.
C. I watched others play the game for about 4 hours and I saw a total of 5 people use Samus.



Having said this^ please watch read what I have posted below and then watch the video.


(not in video) All of samus moves are the same looking as they were in brawl. B-air looks a little different but does the same thing.

(in video) You cannot missile cancel. I tried 2 times myself and watched one other player try. It cannot be done. This is a HUGE problem. Also, the animation for a grounded super missile is very long.

(in video) You can dash dance. Timing is very strict but it can be done.

(in video) U-tilt does 13% fresh. I KOed a Fox pretty early with this move so I can confirm that this move has been buffed in the knockback department.

(not in video) Jab 1, jab 2, f-tilt, f-smash and b-air are all much faster in smash 4 than in brawl. It is very noticeable. I thought I saw a jab 1 combo into f-tilt several times.

(not in video) D-smash sends the foe horizontal instead of vertical like in brawl.

(in video) Bombs are the same as brawl. They are still set to a timer.

(in video) Bomb jumping is still possible. It will never be as useful as it was in melee but it still helps with recovery/stalling.

(in video)Bombs do 10% damage.

(in video) Charge shot seems to charge the same as brawl or faster. Needs more testing.

(in video) Zair seems to be faster than brawl. It still auto tethers to ledge when recovering.

(in video) Up+B to ledge auto snap is still there but a little different. Samus must be farther down in order for the auto snap to work.

(in video) Quick ledge snap from standing on the stage is either gone or i just suck ****. My first death was because I did not quick snap to the ledge .

(not in video) Samus runs faster than in brawl. Her roll is faster but its still the same as brawl/melee/64

(not in video) Dash attack does 10% fresh.

(not in video) Fully charged shot still does 25%.

(in video) Non tipped Zair does 2%, tipped does 4%. Or maybe there are two types of non tipped zair. Watch the video.

(in video) Up throw does 10% fresh.

(in video) Back throw does 9% fresh.

(in video) Pivot grabbing is still in.



Overall, I guess the question you are wondering is probably something like “is samus better or worse than she was in brawl?” On one hand I say YES she is better. Every character in Smash 4 is faster but samus has moves (I named a few above) that are even FASTER than that and that is very very good. She also seems to KO faster because her moves appear to do more knock back, which is her number one issue in Brawl. On the other hand I say NO she is not as good because she cannot missile cancel. Due to no missile cancelling, missiles can only be shot in the air out of a full hop so that you do not land with a terrible ending animation from the missile leaving the cannon. If you have seen my Brawl videos or any top level samus player videos, missiles are PIVITAL for samus in brawl (they provide spam which slows the enemy down/reduces their options, they gimp, they allow for grabs and other frame traps…etc). Since this this game is closer to brawl than any other smash game, I feel samus has just lost lots of status due to no missile cancelling. Im not writing her off just yet though because it is JUST a demo of smash 4. I played the melee and brawl demo and both times the final game was different from the demos. I think the same for the smash 4 demo……I HOPE the same goes for the smash 4 demo.

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[TeenGirlSquad]

Disappointed with what?

Nintendo killed at E3 this year

I don't know dude.

Smash, Splatoon, open-world Zelda. What's not to love.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Disappointed with what?

Nintendo killed at E3 this year

Because apparently Smash 4 sucks...Based on an uncompleted game...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I heard sheik was good in the demo

I would love to main sheik again

Anyone play as sheik?

 

[mimgrim]

Goddamn... o_o

I've been gone since my Mom and I were watching the Treehouse all day today and getting hyped over all the games and laughing tons at certain showcases.

In 100% complete seriousness, what the hell happened to this section of the forum today? It's hatred and rage and arguments in almost every topic I look in! O_o

Welcome to Hell.

Here on the left we have this magnificent statue of the great lord Lucifer. On the right we have his marvelous palace of flames. Straight ahead we have our slaves of agony, hatred, and despair who are forced to do everything we require and get beaten daily. You will join ranks among them.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Welcome to Hell.

Here on the left we have this magnificent statue of the great lord Lucifer. On the right we have his marvelous palace of flames. Straight ahead we have our slaves of agony, hatred, and despair who are forced to do everything we require and get beaten daily. You will join ranks among them.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

So i saw that Petilil was an enemy in smash run...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

So i saw that Petilil was an enemy in smash run...

Was that one in the Greninja reveal trailer?

 

[MSmariosonic]

Hey guys/girls, today I got a chance to play one match on the Smash 4 demo at BestBuy in Webster, tx. Before I begin, please keep some things in mind while reading what I have typed and watching the video I have posted.

A. We used the WiiU Pro controller. Its that XB360 looking controller.

B. One match set at 2min with items on. It was also a Free-4-All.
C. I watched others play the game for about 4 hours and I saw a total of 5 people use Samus.



Having said this^ please watch read what I have posted below and then watch the video.


(not in video) All of samus moves are the same looking as they were in brawl. B-air looks a little different but does the same thing.

(in video) You cannot missile cancel. I tried 2 times myself and watched one other player try. It cannot be done. This is a HUGE problem. Also, the animation for a grounded super missile is very long.

(in video) You can dash dance. Timing is very strict but it can be done.

(in video) U-tilt does 13% fresh. I KOed a Fox pretty early with this move so I can confirm that this move has been buffed in the knockback department.

(not in video) Jab 1, jab 2, f-tilt, f-smash and b-air are all much faster in smash 4 than in brawl. It is very noticeable. I thought I saw a jab 1 combo into f-tilt several times.

(not in video) D-smash sends the foe horizontal instead of vertical like in brawl.

(in video) Bombs are the same as brawl. They are still set to a timer.

(in video) Bomb jumping is still possible. It will never be as useful as it was in melee but it still helps with recovery/stalling.

(in video)Bombs do 10% damage.

(in video) Charge shot seems to charge the same as brawl or faster. Needs more testing.

(in video) Zair seems to be faster than brawl. It still auto tethers to ledge when recovering.

(in video) Up+B to ledge auto snap is still there but a little different. Samus must be farther down in order for the auto snap to work.

(in video) Quick ledge snap from standing on the stage is either gone or i just suck ****. My first death was because I did not quick snap to the ledge .

(not in video) Samus runs faster than in brawl. Her roll is faster but its still the same as brawl/melee/64

(not in video) Dash attack does 10% fresh.

(not in video) Fully charged shot still does 25%.

(in video) Non tipped Zair does 2%, tipped does 4%. Or maybe there are two types of non tipped zair. Watch the video.

(in video) Up throw does 10% fresh.

(in video) Back throw does 9% fresh.

(in video) Pivot grabbing is still in.



Overall, I guess the question you are wondering is probably something like “is samus better or worse than she was in brawl?” On one hand I say YES she is better. Every character in Smash 4 is faster but samus has moves (I named a few above) that are even FASTER than that and that is very very good. She also seems to KO faster because her moves appear to do more knock back, which is her number one issue in Brawl. On the other hand I say NO she is not as good because she cannot missile cancel. Due to no missile cancelling, missiles can only be shot in the air out of a full hop so that you do not land with a terrible ending animation from the missile leaving the cannon. If you have seen my Brawl videos or any top level samus player videos, missiles are PIVITAL for samus in brawl (they provide spam which slows the enemy down/reduces their options, they gimp, they allow for grabs and other frame traps…etc). Since this this game is closer to brawl than any other smash game, I feel samus has just lost lots of status due to no missile cancelling. Im not writing her off just yet though because it is JUST a demo of smash 4. I played the melee and brawl demo and both times the final game was different from the demos. I think the same for the smash 4 demo……I HOPE the same goes for the smash 4 demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pimgQxlJ7tI&feature=youtu.be
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Allan?

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

Was that one in the Greninja reveal trailer?

nah, that video of sakurai talking about the amiibo figures and showing off Smash Run with DK

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

nah, that video of sakurai talking about the amiibo figures and showing off Smash Run with DK

Ah, okay.

 

[MSmariosonic]

So... no Pic of the day?

EDIT: Nevermind...

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

So... no Pic of the day?

there were 4 yesterday.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

With that whole steam punk game

My idea for a steam punk game that had a similar enough concept will never be

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

"Pic of the day. The goddess is up to bat for the Home-run Contest, a returning mini-game on the 3DS version! It's been streamlined with added features here and there, like sturdier glass and doubled speed for long hits. You can also have fun comparing your rankings for this mini-game with your Global Smash Power."

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

Is this real?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Is this real?

You could just go to twitter and check

 

[Silvera]

Is this real?

They must be joking..

 

[N3ON]

That's obv not real. lol Gex

 

[MSmariosonic]

Anyone seen this?

 

[Silvera]

Yeah, that tweet's a fake.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

You could just go to twitter and check

Doesn't look like it's there.

They must be joking..

I think it's a shop, mate.

Though Gex would be.... interesting to add.

 

[ZiggaWaTT]

so i drove almost 2 hours to the nearest best buy and waited almost 4 hours in line and i did not even get to play. someone hold me ;_____;

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I just pre-pre-ordered the 3DS version. Meaning when the store starts pre-orders, I will get an email and a call. The lady said they should start July 13th, it being 2 months away from the Japanese release (September 13th). Funny thing is that two days later, I will be hopping onto a plane with my wife and her parents for our official wedding ceremony in America. I think I will be too busy preparing for the wedding to play Smash but at least I will be able to play it on the plane for 20 plus hours.

 

[Xyro77]

Allan?

Yep. Im Allan Sims. Samus from Houston Tx. Do you know me?

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

"This is my amiibo. There are many like it, but this one's mine."

 

[Sonicthesneak]

Hmm... I wonder if Home Run Challenge will come back for the Wii U.

For all we know about Smash 4... we don't know a lot about the gameplay options for the Wii U. I know Smash Run is 3DS exclusive, and I'll take a shot in the dark and say All Star Mode and Mission Mode will stay on the Wii U... but the Wii U is missing its big hitter new mode.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Yep. Im Allan Sims. Samus from Houston Tx. Do you know me?

I saw your post in the Super Smash Bros Brawl Group on Facebook. So...

 

[Xyro77]

I saw your post in the Super Smash Bros Brawl Group on Facebook. So...

Yep thats me.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Just saw DK's buffed final smash...

 

[Arcanir]

Went to go play at Smash-Fest, which was a lot of fun. We had two 2 minute matches, so I was able to play with a newcomer and veteran that I really wanted to try out (Greninja and ZSS). I'll talk a bit more about them in their respective threads when I get the chance, but from what I played, I really enjoyed using them and I look forward to playing with them more as soon as the game's out.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

How long was the wait in line? If I want to go to a participating Best Buy around 30 minutes away from my work that starts at 2, how early should I get there?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Someone should make a reverse version of the "Do you love me now?" ROB pic but have Ridley dressed up. Even as ROB would do

 

[PLATINUM7]

So Hyrule Warriors can be played and enjoyed by people who lack patience.

F**K YEAH! Even more reason for me to get it

 

[FlappyFalco]

Anyone seen this?

Was that game designer the "kid" who wanted to help balance the game? If so, that was one killer comeback.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

So i got a theory. We are gonna get a Zelda and Metroid newcomer not on Sal's list. The 'guess what trophy' segment of the Smash April direct had a Zelda trophy, a Metroid trophy, a Kid Icarus trophy, and a Fire Emblem trophy during those segments. Sal's leak has Chrom, which covers the FE trophy, and we just got Palutena revealed so that covers the Kid Icarus one.
Sal's source didn't know about/or tell him about Rosalina, leading us to believe that Chrom, Chorus Kids, and Shulk aren't just the only newcomers left.

So who could these newcomers be?
-Ganondorf (w/ new moveset) ?
-Tingle (nah, he's an AT) ?
-Vaati ?
-Ghirahim ?
-Masked Link ?
-Hero's Shade ?

-Ridley ?
-Noxus ?
-Trace ?
-Kanden ?
-Sylux ?
-Spire ?
-Weavel ?
-Gandrayda ?
-Rhundas ?
-Ghor ?
-Space Pirate ?

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

So i got a theory. We are gonna get a Zelda and Metroid newcomer not on Sal's list. The 'guess what trophy' segment of the Smash April direct had a Zelda trophy, a Metroid trophy, a Kid Icarus trophy, and a Fire Emblem trophy during those segments. Sal's leak has Chrom, which covers the FE trophy, and we just got Palutena revealed so that covers the Kid Icarus one.
Sal's source didn't know about/or tell him about Rosalina, leading us to believe that Chrom, Chorus Kids, and Shulk aren't just the only newcomers left.

So who could these newcomers be?
-Ganondorf (w/ new moveset) ?
-Tingle (nah, he's an AT) ?
-Vaati ?
-Ghirahim ?
-Masked Link ?
-Hero's Shade ?

-Ridley ?
-Noxus ?
-Trace ?
-Kanden ?
-Sylux ?
-Spire ?
-Weavel ?
-Gandrayda ?
-Rhundas ?
-Ghor ?
-Space Pirate ?

Ridley is still quite possible, I doubt they would tease him and then relegate him to DLC. His model seems to be done.

I'm not expecting any Zelda newcomers, though.

 

[EmceeEspio]

So I think I've got the solution to the whole Dark Pit thing at the end of Palutena's trailer.

Palutena asks is he "Just dropped in to crash her party"

"Just" "drop in" "crash party"

Seems to me like this is classic it's there but it's not Sakurai trolling.

Dark Pit just showed up for no reason at the end of the trailer so that Sakurai could mess with our heads.

For me, at least, case is closed.