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[Sehnsucht]

Have we even had a DK Stage? Asides from "That one in Smash 3DS that we still don't know is or isn't a DK stage"

Heck, a lot of franchises haven't had stages. I'm looking at you, Star Fox and Kirby

No DK stage yet. We've really had a dearth of stage announcements thus far.

Right now, we have 11-12 stages on either system. Brawl had 41 stages, but with the exclusive stages for either system, it's harder to make an estimate.

I'm currently thinking that there will be less stages per system compared to Brawl. Each series will at least get one stage, though, and on both systems (as the Punch-Out!! Boxing Ring shows). I think 25-35 stages seems a reasonable amount of stages per system.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

No DK stage yet. We've really had a dearth of stage announcements thus far.

Right now, we have 11-12 stages on either system. Brawl had 41 stages, but with the exclusive stages for either system, it's harder to make an estimate.

I'm currently thinking that there will be less stages per system compared to Brawl. Each series will at least get one stage, though, and on both systems (as the Punch-Out!! Boxing Ring shows). I think 25-35 stages seems a reasonable amount of stages per system.

That's actually not that bad

Pokémon.

"Assuming the Trailer is worth of value"

 

[Knight Dude]

No DK stage yet. We've really had a dearth of stage announcements thus far.

Right now, we have 11-12 stages on either system. Brawl had 41 stages, but with the exclusive stages for either system, it's harder to make an estimate.

I'm currently thinking that there will be less stages per system compared to Brawl. Each series will at least get one stage, though, and on both systems (as the Punch-Out!! Boxing Ring shows). I think 25-35 stages seems a reasonable amount of stages per system.

Seems pretty reasonable. Since each system is getting their own stages, you'd have a harder time going for Brawl's amount on both. Though we do have two Zelda stages on the 3DS version and two Mario stages as well.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

My quote meant by it looks like we have our Pokemon stage if the trailer is worth of value; that's assuming pokemon stadium 3

 

[Sehnsucht]

Seems pretty reasonable. Since each system is getting their own stages, you'd have a harder time going for Brawl's amount on both. Though we do have two Zelda stages on the 3DS version and two Mario stages as well.

In Brawl, you saw that the Big Series (Mario, Zelda, DK, Pokemon, etc.) got more than one stage, whereas peripheral series only got one.

I expect this trend to continue for SSB4 across both systems. So we'd have 2-3 Mario stages on the Wii U (Gateway Galaxy,
X, Y) 2-3 Mario Stages on the 3DS (3D Land, X, Y), two Zelda stages on the Wii U (Skyloft, X), two on the 3DS (Spirit Tracks and Gerudo Valley), and so forth.

In other words, while the stages may differ, the series representation ratio will be the same for both systems.

 

[mimgrim]

Don't both systems having different teams? In that case I don't see it all that harder to meat Brawl stages in terms of numbers, especially since stages are vastly different from characters.

 

[Deleted member]

What's this I'm hearing about a Pokémon stage being shown?

 

[Sehnsucht]

Don't both systems having different teams? In that case I don't see it all that harder to meat Brawl stages in terms of numbers, especially since stages are vastly different from characters.

I don't know. But if anyone does, clarification would be great.

Some stages are pretty similar (Battlefield, Punch-Out, etc.), but having 40 stages per system (Brawl carry-over stages included or not included) would mean 80 stages shared across the systems.

While SSE is not hogging development and resources, there are two systems to consider. And I'd prefer quality over quantity; some of the stages in Brawl weren't that great or fun to play on.

 

[mimgrim]

I don't know. But if anyone does, clarification would be great.

Some stages are pretty similar (Battlefield, Punch-Out, etc.), but having 40 stages per system (Brawl carry-over stages included or not included) would mean 80 stages shared across the systems.

While SSE is not hogging development and resources, there are two systems to consider. And I'd prefer quality over quantity; some of the stages in Brawl weren't that great or fun to play on.

Eh. I'd rather have more "boring" stages if it meant that more stages would be allowed for competitive play. :L

 

[Rasumii]

I don't know. But if anyone does, clarification would be great.

Some stages are pretty similar (Battlefield, Punch-Out, etc.), but having 40 stages per system (Brawl carry-over stages included or not included) would mean 80 stages shared across the systems.

While SSE is not hogging development and resources, there are two systems to consider. And I'd prefer quality over quantity; some of the stages in Brawl weren't that great or fun to play on.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

My quote meant by it looks like we have our Pokemon stage if the trailer is worth of value; that's assuming pokemon stadium 3

where in the little mac trailer?

If your talking about when he turn into giga mac, that's still battlefield but in another angle.

Battlefield
Dr. Wily's Castle
Pyrosphere
Garden of hope
Skyloft
New Smashville
Boxing ring
Galaxy stage

No Pokemon stage was shown.

(inb4 i misread you)

 

[Substitution]

Can I admit that I kinda like this stage.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

It's unique and kinda cool, but indeed annoying to move around on.

I also tend to get obsessive-compulsive over making the leaves red and sprouting the flower.

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[Sehnsucht]

Eh. I'd rather have more "boring" stages if it meant that more stages would be allowed for competitive play. :L

I wasn't referring to stages that had less going on, or were competitively viable. I meant more the awkward gimmicky stages.

So far, the Wii U stage roster looks pretty decent. The 3DS seems fairly good as well. I'm expecting at least a few gimmick stages, of the likes of 75M or Hanenbow or Pictochat or something, but given what we've been shown thus far, the stage selection and design seems pretty solid.

Can't tell if you're saying Hanenbow is good or bad. XS

 

[Rasumii]

Can't tell if you're saying Hanenbow is good or bad. XS

I was going for bad. xD

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Ugh. This piece of **** stage. Bad to look at and bad to play on. XD

 

[Metal Overlord]

lol New Pork City was the worst for me

 

[Sehnsucht]

lol New Pork City was the worst for me

The concept of a Large Stage is not unwelcome - the Temple from Melee worked well - but New Pork was either too big, or it was awkwardly designed. Probably both, come to think of it.

 

[Chandeelure]

Still better than 75M. XD

 

[Sehnsucht]

Still better than 75M. XD

75M was the worst, mang.

The idea of including/porting classic video games as stages is a good idea in theory, but if the stage is hardly playable in practice, then it's not worth including, IMO.

 

[mimgrim]

Still better than 75M. XD

No.

75M was the worst, mang.

No.

 

[Chandeelure]

No.

No.

 

[Fatmanonice]

where in the little mac trailer?

If your talking about when he turn into giga mac, that's still battlefield but in another angle.

Battlefield
Dr. Wily's Castle
Pyrosphere
Garden of hope
Skyloft
New Smashville
Boxing ring
Galaxy stage

No Pokemon stage was shown.

(inb4 i misread you)

He's referring to the first trailer in the scene where it shows Pikachu waving at the camera.

 

[mimgrim]

No.

 

[Curious Villager]

Hanenbow was one of those stages I'd spend more time interacting with the stage itself than actually battling within it.

Dem flowers must bloom. :3

But yeah, it wasn't really that good imo. :T

 

[dimensionsword64]

75M was the worst, mang.

The idea of including/porting classic video games as stages is a good idea in theory, but if the stage is hardly playable in practice, then it's not worth including, IMO.

They should have a small version of 25M. That could actually be viable to play on.

 

[Sehnsucht]

No.

No.

I liked the idea of the stage, but its design presented a level of obstruction to the gameplay that made me much prefer the majority of other stages.

They should have a small version of 25M. That could actually be viable to play on.

That would probably have been better. You could then have Arcade DK show up as a Stage Hazard, and begin throwing barrels all over the place. The 25M screen is more iconic than the 75M overall anyway, IMO.

 

[mimgrim]

I liked the idea of the stage, but its design presented a level of obstruction to the gameplay that made me much prefer the majority of other stages.

No.

 

[andimidna]

 

[Sehnsucht]

No.

...

...Maybe?

 

[mimgrim]

No.

...

...Maybe?

No.

 

[andimidna]

Toad for Smash 4

 

[Substitution]

No.



No.

Probably.

 

[Curious Villager]

Hey, cut out with the yes, no, yes, no, maybe's!

 

[Headcrab Jackalope]

Hey, cut out with the yes, no, yes, no, maybe's!

Yes. I could maybe concur with this statement. No wait, I shall definitely agree.

 

[Gunla]

I don't remember this thread being so similar to the intro to Duty Calls.

And people thought this was an arguement against Little Mac. Because Electroplankton can be an interesting fighter but only have a stage? Better of as an AT.

 

[Curious Villager]

Yes. I could maybe concur with this statement. No wait, I shall definitely agree.

Yes.


Oh.....

 

[Sehnsucht]

Toad for Smash 4

I'd lick that.

On a related note, I never saw the viability of Toad as a Smash fighter. Though maybe that's because he's been part of Peach's moveset for two (now three) games.

 

[Croph]

What I have to say on Hanenbow:

Hanenbow is a weird stage for me. I like the concept, but I personally think the execution isn't great. I would like a very colourful and trippy stage like Hanenbow, perhaps with a cute objective that requires teamwork (or not) to complete (like how you can make the flower bloom).

Yellow Devil on Dr. Wily's Castle is a stage hazard, right? I wonder if you could defeat it. If so, then I guess that could count as an objective.

 

[Sehnsucht]

What I have to say on Hanenbow:

Hanenbow is a weird stage for me. I like the concept, but I personally think the execution isn't great. I would like a very colourful and trippy stage like Hanenbow, perhaps with a cute objective that requires teamwork (or not) to complete (like how you can make the flower bloom).

Yellow Devil on Dr. Wily's Castle is a stage hazard, right? I wonder if you could defeat it. If so, then I guess that could count as an objective.

That could be cool, but it might pose a distraction if you're just looking to fight. Like halfway during the match, you have to stop to cooperatively pound on the YD until it goes away.

With this in mind, having the option to enable or disable Stage Hazards would be a great addition for SSB4.