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I would have personally preferred a map on the gamepad like the touchscreen had for Mario Kart DS and 7 but then again, I guess that wouldn't be fair on those who use the Wii Remote or the Classic Controller Pro and whatnot.... :/Someone please explain to my why there is 2 player split screen when the gamepad itself is big *** screen in the players hands.
Really!? A giant horn button!? Honestly, what is the point of having the screen...
Unless Yoshi was cut...
B-but asymmetrical gaming!
But they were all announced before the trailer and appear in said cgi trailer. The Mario franchise characters i was referring to were the mushroom emblem ones, As rosalina has the mushroom emblem, and not the egg or whatever Wario has.
That's because said veterans were unlockable characters. If Marth, Lucario, Luigi, and Toon Link are anything to go by, then being unlockable is likely not a factor in showing off a character this time around.
Unlockable or not, they still took time.
...Didn't they show Lucario before Jigglypuff in Brawl?
Also they showed Lucas before Ness. And Ike before Marth.
Not really that unfeasible to just announce series veterans before a newcomer, we ended up getting Two Mario veterans in a row, and that would be all we need for zelda veterans to gear up for a newcomer trailer. Assuming pokemon has all brawl newcomers returning, it's also just a two reveal business before a newcomer, and other franchises have even less characters to reveal.
This isn't brawl.
Both were unlockable, and Samus was shown firing the beam before zero suit samus, also Samus's dojo character page was first.
To be fair. I prefer the Wiimote + Nunchuck.
Low priority? Outside of the SSE only, that's unprovable. Yeah, not buying that.
Why must we reference that movie?oooooh
Not only in SSE, all characters are listed in order outside wolf jigglypuff toon link and the "forbidden seven" inside the game data itself. These were the last characters announced, the only characters that didn't appear in SSE and the only characters to appear out of order with the rest of the cast. There were 10 characters originally part of the "forbidden seven" but only 3 of them made it in. Jigglypuff was on top of this list, with toon link being second and wolf being third.
because it was delicious eh ? eh?
Please, anything but that movie.
Welcome to the goo- *shot*
Bloopity bloopity bloopity...
I think her priority doesn't stem from her significance to Pokemon but rather because of how long she's been in with Smash. She's been with Smash for 15 years now so, even if her popularity is a shadow of what it was back in the day, I don't see her getting cut.
Oh, that is just bullcrap. Jigglypuff, Wolf, and Toon Link were never part of the Forbidden 7. They were planned from the start, as Sakurai said. All of them were. Sonic threw a wrench in his plans, and the actual Forbidden 7 got cut.
I've always felt that priority according to that order=Sakurai & the team creating characters in the order they wished to. Then Sonic happened, and that's what killed those 7 folks. They were eventually likely planned later, tacked on as a stretch goal and not reached.
Pretty much, given Sakurai & his team would have not been hit by another deadline set earlier and were able to work efficiently. Though Sonic did indeed take over priority, as he & Snake were the ones with "Priority" at that point, much as Megaman has as of 4.
I'm going to go ahead and quote RaykZ here.
This along with their unoriginal final smashes (and in tlinks/wolf's case, movesets), their late appearance in the SSE, and their late announcements on the dojo is enough evidence for me.
Welp, found my new punching bag...
I gotta call bull on that one. If Jigglypuff was only finished due to extra time, why did Jigglypuff apparently have more priority than Mewtwo, who was nearly complete?
Well, maybe Jiggs has more than we thought...
The list had Jiggly Toon link and Wolf on top
Exactly. Jigglypuff had more priority in Brawl than Mewtwo, and programming Jigglypuff's moves, Final Smash, animations, SSE cutscene, SSE method of unlocking, and everything Jigglypuff had in Brawl would've taken more than just what is probably a small amount of extra time.
Or it means that the theory regarding priority has no real straight definition at all. Sakurai likely just worked in some order that he wished to and unfortunately he didn't expect Sonic, he was the only one that has been shown to not be planned. So, there was likely no priority at first, and Sonic likely forced the developers to race against time and they did, indeed run out of said time. Which sucks.
Couldn't it be possible that Mewtwo could have been in the same situation as Jigglypuff? Mewtwo could have easily had been in the same place as Jigglypuff, every character has that sort of method as well. It's a massive development time for any character, but Jigglypuff could have just gotten lucky by being made before Mewtwo?
I thought it was about that movie.
People seemed to draw this from my current argument.
Imo, Jiggly is probably already finished this time around. She was low priority in brawl however, and that's what my point is.
I was actually just stating that point a bit earlier...
It's been so long that those times don't really reflect how Sakurai likely feels now. Sakurai has a gentle little deadline at the moment, finish and release the game by December 31, 2014.
I think there was never an order ultimately. Everybody from the past games(exception Dr. Mario, Roy, and Mewtwo) were all equal priority. But eh.
Yeah, still not buying it. Severe lack of proof, just speculation. I find this entirely unprovable. Until Sakurai actually says it, I'm not buying it. I do buy those 3 were not meant to be important to the SSE. Also, Sakurai outright saying "The roster was already finished" just furthers goes with my point. He scrapped the Forbidden 7 due to time constraints(except Dixie which was due to being unable to code properly) and that was it.
