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He downloaded everybody and then sandbags so hard because it is boring to win all the time. He therefore is a god because if he wants to win he will win in 64. No contest! It isn't like that in Melee, nobody has reached god status of "If they want to win they'll win hands down". I'd say mango is pretty dang close/good though.
I said vocal minority, as I know a lot of melee players are willing to give smash 4 a good chance. I am talking about people who specifically say Smash 4 is brawl 2.0. I am glad for turn dashing because it is going to be welcoming for melee players who give it a chance. They really deserve it, and it will give Smash 4 a huge meta game hopefully.
Mew2King>>Mango if he stopped johning (oh my controller broke, oh I overslept, oh I was practicing how to be Emukiller in PM lmao) and didn't go emo every time he lost a stock.
Well ignore them. I've met an equal amount of so called "casual players" who hate everything competitive smash stands for even if they will never play against somebody like that. It goes both ways.
Thanks, I have it pretty mild, so as long as I take breaks it really isn't that bad when playing Brawl or 64, Melee it really depends on the day. But yes taking long breaks is important, I usually take off a week when it gets bad for both Cello and Smash. Then I am fine, and am able to play again. But I am glad if Sakurai is putting in at's he makes it so you don't have to do ridiculous button inputs.Also for the people who suffer from tendinitis and the like:
You guys seriously impress me. You guys have serious hand injuries and you would still risk more pain just to play Smash. Shows how devoted we are to the game
That being said, I think you should give your hand a rest, theory craft possible scenarios (and thinking of the right coverage option to beat that), and then return back to the game. Its no secret that players who often play Smash, ditch it for a month or two, and then come back are often better than before.
That video of Conan playing smash was honestly hilarious.
Can you Up Tilt/Smash out of this? Because if so, this is the perfect name lol
If Peach does a pivot throw with a turnip, then she does a Turn up Turnip.
well dash dancing still might make it in as there is a form of it in the e3 demo so all we can do is wait til the game is out and see of they tweaked it any
See, the thing is, why run backwards and do the attack when you could just do the attack. If you're goal was to just move back and still space, sure, it works in that regard. But that's the only way it really works since just doing the move would be just as efficient.
You can Up Tilt and Up Special with the analogue stick but will need a C stick to Up Smash and, since this is also jump cancellable, the former two could prove slightly more difficult.
Wouldn't jump cancelling the Up B be easier than trying to do it out of the pivot?
Easier, yes. More frame efficient, no. You do make a valid point though.
Hmm. This is more potent than I thought. This might be the type of "burst" movement we've been wanting.
Most of us don't think that this Tech will make us all good. The reason so much attention is it is easy, so you can focus a lot more on reading and the like. And with me, I know how to wavedash, but my hands and wrists hurt a ton when I do it a lot. Other Melee players such as M2K have the exact same problem. And there is something to be said of learning this easy tech, they can now focus more on other essential needs of smash. And wavedashing inputs are ridiculous. Wave dashing is amazing in melee, but turn dashing is a good alternative to wave dashing. It's easier to do, more accessible, so people can feel like they are on the same level, and reading and strategy will matter more. This also leads to more offensive play, which will already be a huge improvement from Brawl.
Yes, it seems like it.
So you can do your initial-dash forward and F-smash in the same direction?
Lozjam
this is not the new wavedashing. WD'ing had more practical applications. The fact that you have to be running to do this takes away. Also, you cqn't do it near the edge or on a platform. Not enough room. Wavedashing was good for platform follow ups and smooth edgehogs.
Mighty_Guy100
Yes. You do your initial dash, then pivot, you are sliding, and then push the c stick the way of the initial dash. It will look just like the item throwing gif in the op.
When did I ever say this was the new wavedash. I said alternative to wavedash. This is a middle ground between wave dashing and not wave dashing. Also the dash animation is really fast, so much so that fox trotting is as strong as ever before. But the fact you can slide into your smashes will be a good approach, and essentially complements offensive play. Also smash is my life, why does M2K still played even though he is injured. Same reason. Smash 4 will not hurt my hands, Melee does. Because of the constant clenching of jumping pressing down and the pressing r. And I don't think it would lag, I think I remember seeing footage of stutter steps.@
How is pressing buttons ridiculous?
IDK. Most tilts have hitboxes in front, and if anything, this technique tells me you're trying to run away, and try to poke them with the front hitbox, thus resetting to neutral. This is not a primarily offensive technique. In most instances its just a technique that resets to neutral.
Also M2K got hand injury from playing the game for 10 years at demi god level. He had mastered fundamentals already.
And if you have hand injuries I advise you to fix that. Why would you inflict pain on yourself to play a game where people will still likely body you anyway?
@IDK if that would work. Because I don't think that would cancel the pivot. All pivots I've seen were tilts and smashes in the opposite direction. I think if you dashed, pivoted and fsmashed in the same direction, it would lag a bit.
Cool! Hope it stays
You can't just do any attack from a run without waiting to enter a standing state first.
Why are you raining on everyone else's parade?
I actually tested most of the mechanics on 3DS as Luigi, but I wasn't really getting any kind of slides. A lot of that is, of course, because I was inputting things kinda slowly and canceling the pivot animation late; I didn't really think about how you slide early in the animation and how useful that could be. That being said, Luigi can turn around while running in a pretty reasonable way in this game so I wouldn't expect a wavedash like slide out of him.
