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[ShippoFoxFire]

@SCIENCE- I've been able to DI out of RoB Dsmash and Dair him for it before :/

maybe at low% it's a bad idea but at higher % you'll get sent far enough away where there's no way to get Dsmashed.

It's like Pikachu's downsmash.

One should never die from that move EVER. If Shippo can smash DI out of it, all of you can.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Pikachu's isn't hard, you can be locked in the move for a bit and still get out.

R.O.B.'s on the other can can really catch you by surprise because it's a lot faster.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

If he spaces it well the shield push and momentum shift RoB gets will put you well out of range.

though RoB's bair is a pretty obvious move

When you see it push your shield towards him. (AKA shield DI)

Should do the trick and then Utilt.

 

[RT]

Wait, are you assuming it can be done or have you actually done it? Because assuming doesn't help...

ROB is pretty even overall. He's pretty good at being annoying and pressure if you let him get set up for it. Lasers and gyro will be spammed, so be ready. His ftilt and fair have pretty good range..be especially careful offstage because ROB can chase you offstage with fair for a gimp kill. Keep in mind that his recovery is not infinite, so get him offstage and keep him there. He has a spike and reflector, so just keep those in mind. ROB has problems killing...expect nair and Fsmash as the main ones...usmash can kill, but it has horrible hitboxes...dsmash shouldn't kill, but know that it CAN.

 

[culexus・wau]

When you see it push your shield towards him. (AKA shield DI)

Should do the trick and then Utilt.

yo srs question.

for all your talk of shield DI,

can you actually do it?

I myself am trying to learn it but...

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

Flamey I'll show you on wifi if you want.

 

[culexus・wau]

IM/PM/or gimme a shoutout on AIB when you wanna play wifi

I go to the ladder chat a lot too.

also get on AIM more you fur******.

much love MTI <3

anyways I'll do my write up on ROB later

general stuff:

camp with his Gyro if you have it.

if he's recovering from below, AURASPHERE HIS UPB HE CAN'T DO ****

 

[Steam]

you can just hold up on the control stick to get out of RoB's Dsmash at high%

 

[culexus・wau]

Oh yeah, don't get sniped out of your jump by robs laser guys :/

I see it happen too much

 

[RT]

Oh yeah, don't get sniped out of your jump by robs laser guys :/

I see it happen too much

Yes, ALWAYS save your double jump offstage. He fits the "save your jumps if your opponent has multiple jumps/spammable projectile" category.

 

[culexus・wau]

Camping with his gyro is really fun

Just did that today LOL

 

[Steam]

you can also do some of the glide toss approach shenanigans RoB can if you reverse glidetoss.

and do teh comboez. but unless you have tilt stick you won't be able to nair while holding the gyro :/

 

[phi1ny3]

You can also duck under ROB's laser, until he starts SHing it.

 

[RT]

Snipah!!!!

 

[Steam]

You can also duck under ROB's laser, until he starts SHing it.

or he could just aim it down...

 

[phi1ny3]

that too, but at far distances he has to SH it to hit you.

 

[culexus・wau]

you can also do some of the glide toss approach shenanigans RoB can if you reverse glidetoss.

and do teh comboez. but unless you have tilt stick you won't be able to nair while holding the gyro :/

uh

z drop

nair

whats so hard?

 

[Steam]

that too, but at far distances he has to SH it to hit you.

he could just aim it down slightly.

@flame- forgot about that

 

[phi1ny3]

Oh yeah, true true.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So anything in general that works that gives R.O.B. trouble?

I'll give a summary later.

 

[phi1ny3]

juggles n strings n stuff

ROB's shield is also relatively easy to poke, I want to look into using dtilt since that's a nice setup (anything fast that pops him up is usually enough, but don't let your guard down and think it's like snake/garbage tier character in the air) and shieldpokes y'know?

 

[phi1ny3]

juggles n strings n stuff

ROB's shield is also relatively easy to poke, I want to look into using dtilt since that's a nice setup (anything fast that pops him up is usually enough, but don't let your guard down and think it's like snake/garbage tier character in the air) and shieldpokes y'know?

 

[Steam]

RoB is pretty much garbage when you're below him. not much he can do other than Gyro reveral away to make you miss.

and yeah RoB is easy to shield poke. if the RoB is ignorant of tilting shield up to block a dair on shield it will be laughably easy to poke him with it

 

[ShippoFoxFire]

Always hold up if your tap jump is off if you're in close quarters.

DSmash will never ever ever ever work on you.

 

[-LzR-]

Always hold up if your tap jump is off if you're in close quarters.

DSmash will never ever ever ever work on you.

Protip: If you DI out of Rob's dsmash, he doesn't give a ****. It's like Pikachus. Except DI out gets you in a crappy position.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

It gets you out in a better position than vs. Pika. Pretty sure you can pull off footstool to DAir if you have hax DI.

 

[Steam]

Protip: If you DI out of Rob's dsmash, he doesn't give a ****. It's like Pikachus. Except DI out gets you in a crappy position.

RoB's dsmash has a lot of end lag...

 

[culexus・wau]

I just dair them after SDIing dsmash :I

 

[Steam]

I just dair them after SDIing dsmash :I

Thisthisthis

 

[culexus・wau]

Can we discuss wario

Or like olimar again

Or snake

 

[phi1ny3]

How recently have we done Olimar anyways?

 

[culexus・wau]

Not very

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Can we do Wolf or Falco? /suggestion.

I'll wait and see what people want.

 

[D Who?]

I can put good input for Oli and Falco.. I can even get a few vids uploaded for the falco MU discussion. I say Falco. And I can get a pretty good Falco player (FGCU Viper) to talk about the MU. He knows alot.'

On Oli, I may be able to get Fearless to talk about the MU. But thats not a for sure thing

 

[culexus・wau]

IMO

Gogogo

 

[Ares]

IMO

Gogogo

/co-sign

Fino should know this MU ...
/namesearch

 

[Dnyce]

/co-sign

Fino should know this MU ...
/namesearch

Not really, getting better at it.

//namesearch

*reads past couple posts*

Just hold up (and nothing else) when Rob dsmashes you, and as soon as you pop out dair or some shiz. Just holding up gets you out tho, L

//generic504badgatewaytheorycrafting

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

is up.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

If you force him to the edge he's really in trouble.

Watch out for pivot grabs, save your second jump if you can...

Know when you can semi-camp and when you can't.

This MU is stupid and silly.

RR, would you mind editing the logs of when we discuss the MUs and stuff at the bottom of the op?

 

[Dabuz]

throw olimar offstage, gimp him

/discussion