Show Me Ya Gimps! Pit General Disc.

[5-oNe]

yeah.if you glide from the ground you can glide again in the air.basically like other characters with their double jump. but also its not super helpful but if u want to be fancy, pit has a moonwalk like the spacies where u have to walk in one direction and moonwalk the other way and u get a boost on your back jump using the momentum.

 

[Vixen]

you can do pit's moonwalk out of a wavedash/waveland too. gives additional momentum too,.

 

[Phoenix502]

So uh, I'm sure this a known thing, but I haven't seen anyone talk about it ever so I'll put it here just in case.
Very similar to how Pit's up-b was in SSBB, if you use Wings of Icarus (side-b) while on the ground you can use it again in the air after you have finished, which is very handy for edgeguarding.
I'm assuming this is an obvious thing, but I have never seen anyone use it before...
What applications do y'all have for this? I'm mostly using it for edgehogging atm.

edgeguarding, hehe, I tend to use the ground glide for pursuit... not so much "and stay off" as it is "I'm not done attacking you"

having a glide still available helps if I flub it.

 

[BlinkIV]

It's good for a variety of things.

 

[RaynEX]

Canada's largest ever tournament went down last weekend (118 entrants) and I managed to get 3rd going all Pit. Had to try Wolf / Fox against M2k in Winner's Semis though. Other matches can be found in the sidebar. Just looking for your thoughts on what I could have possibly done better, thanks yo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxkbmLDvs7Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jigxr24O8ro


M2k and I played alot on stream and before the event, he said he needed practice for Armada. We had a ton of close games in Pit v Marth (he's convinced its bad for Marth and tbh so do I), but when he went Fox I got eviscerated. Do you guys think Pit does well vs. Marth?

 

[BlinkIV]

Pit does do well against Marth. Pit can do well against Fox, I played a good amount of friendlies with M2K at Forte when he came down here. Also, I want to know what Pit mains are going to be at APEX? I'll be there, and would like to play friendlies, well mainly Pit dittos with ya peeps. I'm also down for MM's.

 

[FrootLoop]

I only watched the first 2 matches of your linked set

Fsmash edgegarding has been weird for me (the 2 hits don't combo sometmes, just trying to hit with the 2nd hit is awkward) and I find ftilt much easier. Dtilt -> fair if they go lower. If they go really high you can usually just back air them on their way down depending on the character.

I think the ideal low damage (<50%ish) throw combo is "down throw -> SHFFL fair -> grab -> repeat". "Down throw -> SHFFL fair -> dash attack" and "down throw -> Up smash" both have worse/harder/nonexistent follow ups against good DI. Once the SHFFL fair will whiff I do SHFFL up air instead and always get a good follow afterwards. Fastfallers are a different scenario because SHFFL fair -> grab doesn't link.

I think you should try more standing arrows in neutral at least until the character shows that they have sufficient counterstrategies. You come up with a 'threat range' based on their character where you don't think arrows will be safe, and once they enter it you stop pestering them with it. The upside from this is they still have to be wary of arrows and this really opens up the dashdance game and short hop aerial game. You can have arrows influence their close-mid game without having to fire one.

Leaving for APEX tomorrow!

 

[otter]

the way Apex is going.... prepare to get nerfed pit mains

 

[Nguz95]

Hylian says no nerfs, so I'm hoping he's right. The only thing I can honestly see getting nerfed is his dtilt.

 

[otter]

Hylian says no nerfs, so I'm hoping he's right. The only thing I can honestly see getting nerfed is his dtilt.

I'd be fine with that.

 

[DMG]

That would be missing the point. Arrows are probably going to get further scrutiny, if I had to guess on any one specific thing

 

[otter]

That would be missing the point. Arrows are probably going to get further scrutiny, if I had to guess on any one specific thing

They do 2 percent damage and halt mobility. That would pretty much confirm they'll nerf whatever the elite players try out.

 

[PK Gaming]

Re: Apex results

We've waited a long, long time for this. Pit is finally on top!

I'm anticipating nerfs, but I hope he's still a top competitor afterwards.

 

[cmart]

This isn't the first time Armada's Pit has won a tournament guys. He's already been through several major releases, and received fewer and fewer tweaks with each release. I wouldn't expect that pattern to change.

 

[DMG]

^

I don't expect Pit to actually get changed, but Arrows are still probably the #1 thing that would be up for tweaking.

 

[otter]

Re: Apex results

We've waited a long, long time for this. Pit is finally on top!

I'm anticipating nerfs, but I hope he's still a top competitor afterwards.

Was he ever?

 

[PK Gaming]

Was he ever?

I think so

He's looking pretty solid in P.M

 

[Shin_Mazinkaiser]

Re: Apex results

We've waited a long, long time for this. Pit is finally on top!

I'm anticipating nerfs, but I hope he's still a top competitor afterwards.

Winning is no reason for changes. That's just silly.

Pit is fine as is and should see no changes.

 

[Madolche ♦ Procione]

I started maining pit in Brawl and PM since I always wanted to pick him up.
Hope people don't think I only use him in PM just because he won the tournament. I just thought the character was really fun. >.<

 

[Little Nemo]

I'm really surprised no one came here and complained about Armada's Pit and "Nerf Pit blah blah blah"
I hope they don't nerf/"tweak" him. It's way too early in the meta to do anything about anyone. Especially when Pit's had so little done to him for a while. And Pit is by no means overpowered. I think it was just the match-up.

 

[Player -0]

I think people know Armada was a force to be reckoned with in melée....

 

[Little Nemo]

I'm not saying Armada is bad or anything. I know he's an amazing Smasher. But the way Armada played Pit against M2K just made Pit look completely free. Plus some of those edge guards were a little extreme. Fair-ing all the way to the blast zone and making it back was pretty surprising. My one friend actually got angry watching that. But then again he gets angry at just about everything. Pit has so many mobility options that it's insane.
I was just surprised because last I checked Pit was considered the worst in PM. But that was many-a demo ago. I just wasn't ready yet.
Anyway sorry for sounding super ignorant. I'm not trying to start any fights. I just assumed dumb people would come and complain. Because it's the internet! And the Project M boards can sometimes be a little... silly. People asking for certain tweaks that don't even make sense and such.

 

[Nguz95]

Pit is well designed. The PMBR cares about design, so I don't think they will mess with Pit.

 

[DMG]

If you DI away/down away, you can get away from a lot of Pit combos. The downside to this though is being much further offstage, and being vulnerable to arrows

 

[AbstractLogic]

I think people discount the fact that the set was extremely close overall. There was by no means a sweep in Grand Finals. Armada was playing better and took the set.

 

[otter]

I'm really surprised no one came here and complained about Armada's Pit and "Nerf Pit blah blah blah"
I hope they don't nerf/"tweak" him. It's way too early in the meta to do anything about anyone. Especially when Pit's had so little done to him for a while. And Pit is by no means overpowered. I think it was just the match-up.

That's funny because a few pages ago the general tone of the thread was that arrows are mediocre and spacies are very hard to fight as pit.


Armada is simply broken.

 

[Player -0]

That's funny because a few pages ago the general tone of the thread was that arrows are mediocre and spacies are very hard to fight as pit.


Armada is simply broken.

Arrows are too good at high percent though, Pop people up from below the edge and then fair.

 

[Shin_Mazinkaiser]

Arrows are too good at high percent though, Pop people up from below the edge and then fair.

SOMETHING has to be good about Pit.

That's the whole purpose Behind P:M.

 

[Player -0]

SOMETHING has to be good about Pit.

That's the whole purpose Behind P:M.

Good recovery and aerials pew pew? His ground moves are pretty good too.

 

[BlinkIV]

Eh, Armada is really good and all. Congrats to him winning APEX while barely utilizing most of Pits tools.

 

[otter]

Good recovery and aerials pew pew? His ground moves are pretty good too.

I'd say recovery is his only exceptional point, and all brawl characters have that.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

Eh, Armada is really good and all. Congrats to him winning APEX while barely utilizing most of Pits tools.

I don't think I've ever seen an "Eh, [filler] and all" statement without the word "but" in it o_0

I loved Armada's play if only because I didn't know Pit was capable of doing all that. Definitely picking him up as a main, especially if you say that's only a little of what he can do :D

 

[BlinkIV]

Yep, I called it right. I knew people would bandwagon Pit if Armada won APEX. I hate being right sometimes. =x

Annnd...-insert me dipping out-

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

Yep, I called it right. I knew people would bandwagon Pit if Armada won APEX. I hate being right sometimes. =x

Annnd...-insert me dipping out-

lol, I've used Pit before, like I'm sure a lot of people have. I only dropped him because I found I wanted to focus on Lucas and Mario instead. Plus I beat all 3 KI games and I like them all, so genuinely liked Pit as a character as well. What's wrong with a tournament reviving interest in using a character?

 

[Player -0]

Yep, I called it right. I knew people would bandwagon Pit if Armada won APEX. I hate being right sometimes. =x

Annnd...-insert me dipping out-

I played Pit before...... I also played every other character but don't give me that....

 

[BlinkIV]

It was a joke. Relax, the both of ya. I didn't say anything was wrong with a tournament reviving interest. I said that because I was speaking with Mizuki (Vixen) at APEX, and we discussed that this would happen. So it's cool, Pits real fun.

 

[otter]

It is fun to play an underused character so I feel people's pain but I love pit too much to let go. Funny thing is I've been playing yoshi for a Few weeks too, the two stars of apex! I'm not that attached to yoshi though.

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

It was a joke. Relax, the both of ya. I didn't say anything was wrong with a tournament reviving interest. I said that because I was speaking with Mizuki (Vixen) at APEX, and we discussed that this would happen. So it's cool, Pits real fun.

Oh well, I'm sorry for misunderstanding you. I hope my reply wasn't too bad.

And yes, Pit is INDEED fun :D

 

[RaynEX]

Eh, Armada is really good and all. Congrats to him winning APEX while barely utilizing most of Pits tools.

You sound salty as ****. Pit won! You should be celebrating man. Perhaps it doesn't sit well with you and your preconceived standards of what a Pit main "should" be doing, but you have to overlook that. He doesn't have to use all the tools, he just has to play efficiently. Which standout tools were even neglected anyways? Armada has incredible fundamentals (spacing, conversions, tech-chasing) so if anything you should be excited that he was able to do that well despite "not using most of Pit's tools". This means the ceiling for the character's potential has yet be seen, which is fantastic news.

Or maybe I misinterpreted your post and it wasn't condescending at all. In the event that happens my bad haha

 

[Chesstiger2612]

Not a bad thing if more people play Pit, so they might see he isn't OP after all... I also think Mew2King DId the Fairs up too often which lead to more arrows+ more fairs. When he recovered low and covered the first arrow with a shine, doublejumped then and upbed he actually survived more often. But I think it is some kind of muscle memory to DI up when hit offstage