CrazyPerson
Smash Journeyman
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- Jan 3, 2015
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Something that always bugs me about encouraging diversity is the assumption there is a problem. Measurements aren't always accurate when there are variables. While a foot can always be a foot, and a gallon a gallon any person's choice to attend or not attend a tournament can be based on deciding the time doesn't work with there job schedule, family responsibilities, the fear of being treated a certian way, not feeling like a good enough player. Every player's decision to attend or not has countless reasons... grouping women together and assuming it is fear they will be treated poorly isn't fair to them, or the community.When 60% of gamers are only 9% of attendance obviously some wall is there.
see while i agree with you, the thing that matters isnt what they think, what matters is what they actually say. especially when im just looking into the community for the first time, how do i know whether the people are joking or are being serious? and even jokes can get annoying, extreme example: if i meet a woman and ask her what shes doing outside the kitchen, it doesnt matter that i actually dont think like that, thats probably the last time ill ever speak with her first impressions make a difference, and sadly twitch chat, regardless of its trolling nature, is not a good first impression
Probably true... something that tends to get lost in interactions though is the relationship of the people involved. There were a couple of girls I used to play an online game with, and I heard the gasps from others when I made certain remarks... those gasps came from thinking what I said was terrible but not knowing how they are welcome to fire right back and we all laugh at it. Our friendship included quite a bit of "inappropriate" humor. That happens in the real world to... people make jokes about steroptypes to someone and both people laugh about it. With that said, one has to be careful with that kind of humor with people they don't yet know.... as until they know you aren't that sexist pig it may not feel like a joke.
It is always hard to walk into a group of unfamiliar people and understand what is going on if you aren't familiar with the dynamic of individuals, and the culture of it as a whole. If a fear is there to begin with it is naturally easy to find evidence that the fear is well founded. (human nature and this extends well beyond smash) Humor of any kind can scare people away... our community is no exception to it. Rules are often added to keep the piece... but how much do we want to limit the interactions between friends?
leaving the reasons for why there are fewer women aside since we dont know exactly why it is(and its probably the biggest discussion topic in this thread besides the original point), i want to point out that your misunderstanding the op, what the op was addressing was basically your what he suggested was NOT to run a tournament for males only and a tournament for females only, but rather to run a main tournament(open for all genders) and run a separate tournament only for women, the purpose of which isnt necessarily to be the most competitive and separate genders because of that, but rather to offer a platform for woman to "get a foot in the door" to the competitive smash scene without having "the awkwardness of walking into a place that is filled with the opposite gender" with the final goal being integrating those female players into the open for all tournaments.
I see that is the point of it... but I don't like the idea of locking anyone out of a tournament for any reason but skill. (previously mentioned ameture tournaments are a good thing IMO.)
I prefer to look at a person as an individual rather than classify them by gender, race, or anything else. On that note.. there are lots of people who could use help getting a foot in the door... and I don't much like it when some individuals get in based on something so superficial while others are locked out and have to get to the same place without help.
Once the game starts... everyone is a smasher. Gender and anything else we humans have decided to classify ourselves by doesn't matter... and it never should. I want the community to be one of acceptance of all who walk in the door... and invitations to attend should be done without discrimination or so called "reverse discrimination" of any sort.