What exactly do you mean by that?
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Should Metaknight Be Banned? The Poll (LISTEN TO THE SBR PODCAST!)
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It was as useful as the post he was quoting, really.
You provided no reasoning or any explanation against the pro-ban points.
WakerofWinds
Smash Journeyman
Please try to avoid double posting, it clutters up the thread and makes it longer then it needs to be.
Thanks.
SharkAttack
Smash Lord
If he's in the game he's allowed to be used. Just gotta find a way to beat it.
New Pork City is in the game, that doesn't mean it's allowed to be used.
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
If MK was banned it wouldn't be so "****ty" as you say (I'm not a huge fan of swearing) and that is why we are having these discussions about him being banned, to make Brawl a better and more balanced game.
lol Akuma .
cheap_josh
Smash Ace
Wow, four days and over a thousand votes.
I voted yes.
I voted yes.
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
I voted against him being banned, but hear me out:
Meta-Knight should be banned but ONLY to a certain extent, why? because players should be allowed to use him whenever they please, and what I mean by a certain extent is that ONLY certain moves should not be allowed such as his Dimensional Cape for example, other than that he should be allowed, just with limitations on a tourney rule set.
Meta-Knight should be banned but ONLY to a certain extent, why? because players should be allowed to use him whenever they please, and what I mean by a certain extent is that ONLY certain moves should not be allowed such as his Dimensional Cape for example, other than that he should be allowed, just with limitations on a tourney rule set.
Hype
Smash Lord
That will be a hassle to enforce.
M.K
Level 55
That is way too subjective.
Tournament Scene:
Player 1 : "CHEAP! You used tornade 3 times, disqualified!"
Player 2: "I didn't mean to! My finger slipped!"
Player 1: "Yes he did, disqualify him"
See? It's stupidly tedious.
Mr.Victory07
Smash Lord
I dont really have an issue with MK, he's not as broken as people think, especially the tornado, but I'd like to see more diversity in tournaments, so i voted yes. If there was a "keep MK, but he starts with a handicap" option, i would have voted for that
Since when do you have to place at a tournament to have a valid view on whether it was worth going to or not?
For attending or not, it means you better be actually making points and not trying to claim things based on your experience (Experience feedback tends to be less valuable than facts, but more than pure "I think") if you haven't been to tournaments.
That being said, do you think this poll actually means anything anyway?
Reioumu
Smash Lord
MK shouldn't be banned. As get as he is he doesn't always win the tournaments. True he's dominating, but it's kind of like how Sheik was at one point. Either way, people are finding ways to beat MK, and I know in MD/VA at least, MK usually doesn't place too high. True he places higher elsewhere, but seeing H2YL and several other great players (G-REEEEEG) keeping metaknight out of the top 5 is enough proof to say that there is a way to face metaknight.
-Rei
-Rei
Are you sure you're not confusing the best players just not playing as MK, and their skill level simply being so much better than the MKs that they're taking them down?
Because if the top 5 in an area refuse to play him, it really doesn't mean that much that he doesn't win tournies there (What it means is that he's been successfully soft banned).
Personally, I think it would be great if we could get him soft banned. Then the new/unskilled people showing up at tournies could play him still if they wanted, but since the best wouldn't be playing as him he'd never have overwhelming dominance there and the "I must play MK to have a chance" wouldn't really settle in. But it's unlikely to be happening nationwide anytime soon, too much "I must win" floating around.
Realistically though, a soft ban is simply a hard ban that only the top players recognize to save it from having to be a ban against everyone using the character -- it won't impact their winning or losing any more or less than a hard ban, and it leaves the game with the extra variety of that one character for the less skilled players.
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
Well, when a player step's into a tourney match they SHOULD already know about it, besides as long as it doesn't connect directly to the opponent, then I don't see why it should be an immediate disqualification.
Judges won't always be present so you want to keep the number of possible disqualifications as low as possible. This would be extremely hard to keep an eye on.
Coloring your text just makes it annoying to read and an extra thing to delete when quoted >.>
rehab
Smash Journeyman
We should ban disadvantageous matchups. You're not allowed to use Marth against Ness or Snake against CF. Everybody's happy.
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
No. That's stupid.
And also, I think MK should be legal in doubles, but banned in singles.
Lol then MK still gets banned.
Legend Blade
Smash Cadet
I disagree, besides, based on how strong Meta is now he will probubly be 'Nuke Nerfed' in the next (I mean, just look at Sheik, she lost a lot of her power).
Peachkid
Smash Champion
MK outclasses the entire cast way too much. and with the metagame going at its current pace, he probably wont have any slight advantage matchups, cause they will be almost guaranteed wins :\
The next Smash is not justification for how we handle rules in this one.
Rh1thmz
Smash Journeyman
Blackbelt, Ace, ^^^this comment^^^ was sarcastic...at least I hope :@
CR4SH
Smash Lord
I Lol'd,alot acutally. You win.
SoraOwnsAll
Smash Apprentice
Next Smash =/= this Smash, thus we will decide if anybody should be banned in the next one when the time comes.
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
Considering how much stupidity runs rampant, I doubt it was a joke.
People have suggested stupider, and have been completely serious.
Inui
Banned via Warnings
D-air beats the tornado, so lol @ it having bad priority.
If Fox predicts the d-tilt, he can punish it with d-air.
Fox is limited, but it's not hopeless.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
D-air can only beat the Whorenado if it is approached from above.
UP-SMASH can wreck Whorenado's **** completely.
Smooth Criminal
Inui
Banned via Warnings
Fox doesn't have trouble being above MK's tornado. Even if he's hit by it, he can DI out and drill it because he's light.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
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Only to be Whorenadoed again. Spacing, Inui. A good MK will chain Whorenado.
Or he'll follow up with an f-air or an Up-B. I'm not entirely disagreeing with you on this or anything. Just pointing out other stuff.
Smooth Criminal
Inui
Banned via Warnings
I'm pretty sure he can just DI out, jump, and then drill the tornado. His jump allows him to follow MK. I know how to space tornado because it's one of the biggest parts of my game, and I still see openings for Fox to drill me.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Hm. Perhaps I'm too cautious in my Fox v. MK matchup; I'd rather space out my stuff and wait for an opening. Thanks for the protip.
Smooth Criminal
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