I love brinstar.
Its probably my favorite doubles cp stage of all time
Why is that stage so good?
Its probably my favorite doubles cp stage of all time
Why is that stage so good?
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Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA
- Thread starter KirbyKaze
- Start date
Yeah is aw that **** on the news. thatw as some messed ups hit
soap
Smash Hero
at first i thought it was some hinamizawa syndrome subplot, then i realized it was real life.
ive been watching 2 much anime the past couple days.
but i really did do some **** *** jew-star combos the other day, im gonna counterpick there now i think.
i was like stalling in the lava, fox is jumping on the platform above me. out the lava i jump upb, double poof him on the plaform and go back to the ledge. The lava rises and bounces him a couple times while i stall some more in the fire. And then i said "lol jew-star"
ive been watching 2 much anime the past couple days.
but i really did do some **** *** jew-star combos the other day, im gonna counterpick there now i think.
i was like stalling in the lava, fox is jumping on the platform above me. out the lava i jump upb, double poof him on the plaform and go back to the ledge. The lava rises and bounces him a couple times while i stall some more in the fire. And then i said "lol jew-star"
If you could drive to the hotel I'm staying at which I don't know where it is yet because this job is so sketchy. We could play. :D I'd drive to your place but I'm only driving to New Haven, CT then getting transportation to Newark NJ.
Edit: ****, I just realized you're going to be at Pakfest and not in your state. Man am I dumb lol. With this job we travel all around the states selling trinkets to little kids and ripping them off lol. I have such a great conscious.
Hit peach with whatever you want.
If you're serious though
Sheik vs Peach match up
Feel free to ask any questions if that post didn't answer all of your questions and I'm sorry I'm not m2k.
If you want m2k's advice go ask him over AIM or something.
Apparently M2K is terrible at giving advice online
but i hear this from LOLmaster so i actually have no idea.
but i hear this from LOLmaster so i actually have no idea.
Personally from my experience m2k just tells you how he approaches things.
Which of course doesn't work for anyone.
It takes quite a bit of knowledge to understand what he trying to relay you sometimes.
Which of course doesn't work for anyone.
It takes quite a bit of knowledge to understand what he trying to relay you sometimes.
hehe you're better off asking us, the dumb ones
we dont know what hitboxes and frames are, but we sure know matchups.
we dont know what hitboxes and frames are, but we sure know matchups.
You avoid turnips?
I just aerial through them when I can.
I'd like to say also that jabbing on peach's shield isn't THAT bad of an idea IMO.
I just aerial through them when I can.
I'd like to say also that jabbing on peach's shield isn't THAT bad of an idea IMO.
jabbing peach's shield is good for pressure
jabbing peach when she's not shielding is bad
i asked m2k because i don't think there's very much i can learn from you guys
and mango lives relatively close to me, i can ask him questions any time
this is what i've heard about m2k (i havent seen this myself):
- dashdance to grab
- dthrow to eventual upair
- dthrow to upsmash tip even if they DI away ~60-90%
- once they are in the air do not let them back down
- he CC's at all the right times
for the rest of you... i'm only interested in how you approach
i've seen a bit of reno/kirbykaze/vanz
minimal of tec0
def good sheiks but nothing im not already trying to implement / dont already do / dont know about
no offense, you know what i mean tho
jabbing peach when she's not shielding is bad
i asked m2k because i don't think there's very much i can learn from you guys
and mango lives relatively close to me, i can ask him questions any time
this is what i've heard about m2k (i havent seen this myself):
- dashdance to grab
- dthrow to eventual upair
- dthrow to upsmash tip even if they DI away ~60-90%
- once they are in the air do not let them back down
- he CC's at all the right times
for the rest of you... i'm only interested in how you approach
i've seen a bit of reno/kirbykaze/vanz
minimal of tec0
def good sheiks but nothing im not already trying to implement / dont already do / dont know about
no offense, you know what i mean tho
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Approaching Peach is just waiting for them to do something and punishing it. It's not really approaching but you can pressure her in close range okay this way.
If I had to approach Peach I'd just do Fair or something.
In general if they pluck a turnip you can dash attack or grab unless they're at like 10 (for dash attack). If they do floating Fair just hit them before their Fair comes out with a move of some kind because it will eat and consume everything in its path if its hitbox gets out and you will have to get out of its way really quickly. And so forth and so on.
D-throw U-smash doesn't work on Peach.
If I had to approach Peach I'd just do Fair or something.
In general if they pluck a turnip you can dash attack or grab unless they're at like 10 (for dash attack). If they do floating Fair just hit them before their Fair comes out with a move of some kind because it will eat and consume everything in its path if its hitbox gets out and you will have to get out of its way really quickly. And so forth and so on.
D-throw U-smash doesn't work on Peach.
Yea d-throw upsmash at anything past like 10 seems kinda unlikely.
I have been doing d-throw upsmash on peaches at very low percents and had pretty good success with it. The general rule for hitting it seems to be that if you have to move in order to hit peach, you can't hit it.
If you guys see some of my vids, I do it a few times against Jfox and believe me, he was trying to nair me out of it every single time.
Upsmash at low percents lets you go for pretty decent stuff mainly upair twice.
I have been doing d-throw upsmash on peaches at very low percents and had pretty good success with it. The general rule for hitting it seems to be that if you have to move in order to hit peach, you can't hit it.
If you guys see some of my vids, I do it a few times against Jfox and believe me, he was trying to nair me out of it every single time.
Upsmash at low percents lets you go for pretty decent stuff mainly upair twice.
Drephen
Smash Master
Ffffffffffffffffffffffff Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Cia
das kwl
^ best response ever.
Not only would mew2king never see your post (he doesn't name search) but he'd tell you to do nearly impossible ****. most of us on the sheik boards are very knowledgeable. but if you just want to do mew2king stuff, then watch his videos and steal everything you can. or PM him. But posting in a public thread not even created by mew2king is not going to get his attention. and saying 'no offense' doesn't make your post look any less douche-baggy
And For the Record, jabbing a grounded peach is generally a horrible idea. if you don't think so, play me in a friendly sometime. Anytime you land a jab is a time you could have landed a grab. Grab leads to amazing-ness.
Not only would mew2king never see your post (he doesn't name search) but he'd tell you to do nearly impossible ****. most of us on the sheik boards are very knowledgeable. but if you just want to do mew2king stuff, then watch his videos and steal everything you can. or PM him. But posting in a public thread not even created by mew2king is not going to get his attention. and saying 'no offense' doesn't make your post look any less douche-baggy
And For the Record, jabbing a grounded peach is generally a horrible idea. if you don't think so, play me in a friendly sometime. Anytime you land a jab is a time you could have landed a grab. Grab leads to amazing-ness.
soap
Smash Hero
qfttttttttttt
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
hi soap
DREEEEEPHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
I was doing like side step dsmash like 6 times in a row.
**** ***** all day.
Thank you drephen
This is the type of **** you can't learn from m2k or mango
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
My Sheik is terrible. And I don't see a critique thread so... hopefully you guys can tell me what I'm doing wrong. ^_^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7z3WdfUlas
Sheik v Falco
Johns; At the end I was just frustrated so I stopped trying and did stupid **** like spam dash attack and roll lol... scrub much. :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ja2OxYhsgE&feature=channel
Sheik v Marf
I can tell I roll WAY too much... trying to break outta that habit.
Aside from that I failed on quite a few edge cancelled Vanishes... whoops. ^_^;
Halp?<3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7z3WdfUlas
Sheik v Falco
Johns; At the end I was just frustrated so I stopped trying and did stupid **** like spam dash attack and roll lol... scrub much. :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ja2OxYhsgE&feature=channel
Sheik v Marf
I can tell I roll WAY too much... trying to break outta that habit.
Aside from that I failed on quite a few edge cancelled Vanishes... whoops. ^_^;
Halp?<3
approaching marth from the air is generally a bad idea since his stupid disjointed hitbox (that haley doesn't know of) will hit you before you can hit him usually. I try to stay grounded and get a grab and then do follow ups.
Hey I coulda sworn I heard this advice from somewhere
Ryan-K
Smash Master
my sheik means business
Why don't we just MM at genesis instead
sounding "douche-baggy" just gets you more $$
thanks, really good advice imo
Drephen
Smash Master
can i get a money match?
my sheik isnt better than mew2kings because i just get consistently lucky at tournaments and can offer no good advice at all
so money match?
my sheik isnt better than mew2kings because i just get consistently lucky at tournaments and can offer no good advice at all
so money match?
>_> Sheik ditto MMs >__________>.
Oh the chaingrabbing joy.
Oh the chaingrabbing joy.
Vts
Smash Champion
now you feel the way i feel when i play IC's so much fun killing people after 1 grab or getting them to the point of death
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Cia
das kwl
i'm not going to genesis. come to NY and you'll get your money match.
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I played mango yesterday at a tournament and his play style it pretty **** annoying. he 3-0'd me in winners and 3-1'd me in GF. I believe our matches were recorded, so i'll post them when they go up.
soap
Smash Hero
mango is at the most random tourneys
lol you didn't have to make yourself look worse
I'd MM you any day
ask socal for Kira at genesis
but i'll probably come find you either way
it's not that bad, you can jump out ~70% or go on platforms. no worse than ICs or even ganon
learn to ditto
If I'm ever in the area I'll let you know.
you playing mango would be cool to see
tbh all i've seen of you is you playing lovage at ROM
soap
Smash Hero
whats the DI to jump out?
i can never ever jump out of that thing even though i see other sheiks do it all the time
Drephen
Smash Master
lol worse? Ima be lookin good chaingrabbin your *** all day OOOHHHHHHHHHHH
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
lol it works to like 90 or something wtf
Cia
das kwl
Use Luigi. I have the utmost confidence you'd ****.
thumbswayup
Smash Master
Why is it that M2k is the only person that thinks Sheik ***** Fox lolol. Everyone else says Fox ***** the pants off Sheik.
Ryan-K
Smash Master
because he used fox and got ***** by sheik so saying the opposite would mean hes wrong. ffs he thinks dk ***** fox
thumbswayup
Smash Master
Yeah he told me about that too. Said he mm'd Chillin's Fox with his Dk on FD and ***** it so hard or something. Also, I think it's cause KDJ destroyed him in that tourny match Sheik vs Fox, but then again that's KDJ...