Razor

fox can spilt them up really fast and everyone can can grab grab fox but it can go both ways for who would win.

the ice climbers don't have good range other than Down-b with in that case is amazing range. conpare your range other people's range and you will see. I always thought pichu's f-smash had somewhat good range fox's jab is much better range.

Just wordering what's your favorite ice climber move? mines DOWN-SMASH then is grab

Trust me once you get going your going to want to do a hundred things at once. They let you be much more creative then most. The other day I was trying to figure out how to de-snyce f-smash and hold it with nana and Sh bair with popo. not easy.. because comfortable with the C-stick, because they really need it for some de-synces and you can use it to make some chaion throws a little easier.

Don't base your whole game around chain throwing because people can SDI out of any of them but for some it's much harder.

And if your juggleing someone with upairand your 2nd jump can't reech or they can weeve out wavedash as you land so you can follow them.

Don't give up to soon because many people can counter them like fox,falcon, peach , marth, G&w, gannon ,samus and about anyone who outranges you and wants to space you to death

Sorry I can't post in the melee boards

I would pick marth to go in training mode with
1. grab d-throw
2 (somepeople you can get away with just a hop which is why it's better to shorthop)hop with nana and dair
3regrab

I takes A few trys and the timing is different for everyone don't even try for J-puff and pichu.

For de-syncing spot dodge and hold what you want nana to do next and go form that and then learn the other way. Once you learn the chain throws well you just 0 death them you are called gay, but desnyces set-up grab sometimes, increase your range, you are harder to predict, faster ,and just plain ****.

The ice climbers(melee ones) are the hardest people to play as of all smash games due to the insane amout of info you need, alot of techs and mental skill to the max not even kidding.

I have alot more info for you if you play as pichu because few people have the knowledge I have for him like peach/zedla can't grab/up-smash him during his jab giving him a very powerful sheild pressure tool vs them.


you can ask me if you need anything.

Is this THE Razor? The Bo Burnham lookalike who made my Wolf way better?