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It's a hint...that they won't give up on Smash Bros, no matter what happens. They're expecting their fans to do the same.Oh boy time to play catchup.
The opening animation for shantae 5 looks amazing. While I would like that window to be a hint, I doubt it would be. I think its safe to say shantae wouldn't be a part of this fighter pass. Though it is great that it brought so much attention to the half genie hero. If mimic was teased to be playable from it, i think it would be hilarious if he had a plauge knight playstyle.
Well, in Gen 5 they didn't use the female protag because al the characters were a few years older than as was, so they opted for Cylan and Iris.What makes you so sure of that? They've used the female trainer of the generation (or Lillie) to fill the female companion role ever since Hoenn, not a Water gym leader like Misty. Not to mention the relatively nonstandard format of the Sun/Moon season. Actually, due to how corporate the whole Galar league is, I don't think any gym leader has the luxury of just hiring a replacement while they go travelling: their sponsors probably want them to be available at a moment's notice.
Not saying it's impossible Nessa will be more populaar at the end of the day, but I don't see any obvious signs of her being more significant at the moment.
Back to Bea, I realize there's another fairly recent Nintendo female who wields a steely gaze and martial arts...
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She won a massive popularity contest spannning several weeks in her game, by the way.
Hopefully. Have to say Nintendo could've announced everyone by now but with all the lip tightening as all these games starrin those popular requests from Shantae to Doomguy are releasing around the time the DLC line-up concludes? Funny timing that.Anybody think the stars are aligning with shantae 5 coming out this year?
I think the odds of Shantae 5 come out this year are still good. I don't think they would have said 2019 if they didn't think it was possible.Well guys I am reporting back in from my camp over in Canada and I gotta say I hope shantae is in the fighters pass and if not maybe she’ll get in through a season 2? If any indie gets in as a fighter I’d imagine shantae would be first considered given her history with Nintendo and another female fighter would be appreciated by the fans. Anybody think the stars are aligning with shantae 5 coming out this year?
Even with Shantae 5 in the picture, I sadly don’t think she has much of a fighting chance. DLC is usually decided pretty early on, and if Shantae was considered I don’t think she would be a spirit. Still, Sakurai had broken away from the norm before.Well guys I am reporting back in from my camp over in Canada and I gotta say I hope shantae is in the fighters pass and if not maybe she’ll get in through a season 2? If any indie gets in as a fighter I’d imagine shantae would be first considered given her history with Nintendo and another female fighter would be appreciated by the fans. Anybody think the stars are aligning with shantae 5 coming out this year?
Well, obviously.Even with Shantae 5 in the picture, I sadly don’t think she has much of a fighting chance. DLC is usually decided pretty early on, and if Shantae was considered I don’t think she would be a spirit. Still, Sakurai had broken away from the norm before.
Got a source? I’ve never heard about this. Even then, the picks had to fly by Nintendo at one point, probably.Also, let's remember that the spirits were mainly picked by a team that's separate from the game's main staff. The selection is entirely theirs, which accounts for some odd omissions (Paint Roller isn't in despite being a Sakurai creation, for instance).
Thing is, they do in a way. They give the fighter boosts, etc. Fighter spirits exist so that you can have a spirit of a fighter, but you can’t battle alongside them because then you would have Mario being assisted by a dead Mario spirit. This doesn’t mean that she is de-confirmed, but we should probably consider that.For now though, many people treat spirits as an absolute that can never be deviated from, even though the images themselves don't interact with anything, unlike ATs or background characters.
You can still do things by having a character powered up by themselves.Got a source? I’ve never heard about this. Even then, the picks had to fly by Nintendo at one point, probably.
Thing is, they do in a way. They give the fighter boosts, etc. Fighter spirits exist so that you can have a spirit of a fighter, but you can’t battle alongside them because then you would have Mario being assisted by a dead Mario spirit. This doesn’t mean that she is de-confirmed, but we should probably consider that.
Obviously, he'd have some input with what the team picked (mostly IPs he personally worked onThere’s a huge number of Spirits in the game; what was the selection process like?
Sakurai: I basically checked over what the Spirits team had picked and added/removed characters accordingly. Each characters’ ease of use and whether or not we had their original art also played a part to a degree. There were some characters that were candidates for Spirits that we ended up having to pass on just because we couldn’t find the artwork.
That really would have an effect on things, wouldn’t it?
Sakurai: Aside from that, there were quite a few characters from “Kid Icarus: Uprising”, so I had the team trim a few of them off. It’s a title I’m pretty intimately familiar with (laughs), and knowing the characters individually allowed me to clearly see any benefits of having them in the game as Spirits.
Did you ever include candidates from a perspective of how they’d function in-game?
Sakurai: We didn’t think that far ahead in the selection process, but by that point we can imagine how they’d function in-game.
While you were sifting through candidates, were there any characters where you thought “now who is this character?”
Sakurai: From time to time yes, but in those cases, I’d look into it immediately. Games like “Fire Emblem” and “Castlevania” have long histories, and even knowing the games I’d still find myself thinking, “where in the chronology does this protagonist come from?” That’s when I look back over the timeline.
The differences between the games themselves must’ve been a struggle to deal with.
Sakurai: It was a lot of fun though, getting to see such a variety of characters.
Ah I see. Thanks!You can still do things by having a character powered up by themselves.
In any case, until further notice, it's weird how Trigger deliberately decided to reference Smash Bros. with that damned window perspective, when there's no reason to do that, if Shantae is indeed non-playable. Most people wouldn't pay any mind to it, compared to Deltarune's blatant dialogue reference.
Anyway, here it is:
https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...ng-bosses-and-spirits-new-stages-much-more/2/
Obviously, he'd have some input with what the team picked (mostly IPs he personally worked on), but that's the extent of it.
It's a Schrodinger's Tease, if anything. Besides, Trigger likes to reference a metric ton of things anyway.Ah I see. Thanks!
Also, as for the window, honestly I don’t think it is teasing Smash. Probably just over-speculation though. If it IS a Smash tease then I will be one happy man.
They really don't tho. Many fighters already have spirits of themselves, often just wearing a different outfit or from a different art style.Thing is, they do in a way. They give the fighter boosts, etc. Fighter spirits exist so that you can have a spirit of a fighter, but you can’t battle alongside them because then you would have Mario being assisted by a dead Mario spirit. This doesn’t mean that she is de-confirmed, but we should probably consider that.
I don't know if they even really need to do that. I mean DK has a spirit called "Donkey Kong and Bongos" It's not a different version of DK (like you could argue about Fire Kirby or Tennis Aces Mario) it's just regular DOnkey Kong "and Bongos"One thing that comes to mind on the Spirit debate: is there any particular reason the curent spirit can't be renamed "Shantae (Half Genie Hero)" if Shantae becomes a Fighter?
It would be rather silly if Nintendo couldn't fix a typo or something on spirit name. Retcon for a spirit to Fighter would use a similar system.
I didn’t expect to read that today.It's a Schrodinger's Tease, if anything. Besides, Trigger likes to reference a metric ton of things anyway.
Ideon symbol reference. Also, line makes more sense in context in Kill la Kill, sorry, I'll get a cleaner version.View attachment 231246
The crap was that image.
lol im teasinIdeon symbol reference. Also, line makes more sense in context in Kill la Kill, sorry, I'll get a cleaner version.
Okay, one, the anime is Space Patrol Luluco, another Studio Trigger anime (continuing the trend of pairing Shantae with Trigger productions), and two, you’re late by a few pages with that (admittedly well done) Captain N reboot animatic.Found some crossover art with an anime I don't know.
Also, I just found this amazing animatic. Don't know how many of you have seen it, but Shantae does make a cameo in it, so I figured to link it here.
Anime is Space Patrol Luluco which is produced by Trigger as well.Found some crossover art with an anime I don't know.
Also, I just found this amazing animatic. Don't know how many of you have seen it, but Shantae does make a cameo in it, so I figured to link it here.
Thanks and figures. Wonder why I missed it though? What post shared the video?Okay, one, the anime is Space Patrol Luluco, another Studio Trigger anime (continuing the trend of pairing Shantae with Trigger productions), and two, you’re late by a few pages with that (admittedly well done) Captain N reboot animatic.
3:23Anime is Space Patrol Luluco which is produced by Trigger as well.
I haven’t spotted the cameo yet, could you timestamp it for me please?
Nothing's stopping them from simply using older designs (as most of the Street Fighter cast does), or even just using the Smash render by itself if all else fails as they did with Cloud and Robin.They really don't tho. Many fighters already have spirits of themselves, often just wearing a different outfit or from a different art style.
Mario can be boosted by a spirit of himself in Tennis shorts. K Rool can take advantage of powers granted to him by himself in a scientist coat. Kirby can be empowered by a picture of himself holding a special sword.
For me, a spirit could only deconfirm a character out right if they only had one form or design to be represented as (and even then you could make arguments that a fighter version could have a different enough design to warrant a different spirit)
Shantae might have seemed in trouble back when HGH was her latest game (but even then you could say that for her fighter they might pick a style more to her origins or something that mixes everything together) But now that she has a more relevant game coming out and a new design with it, I think her being a spirit doesn't really affect anything. Doesn't mean she is in, just means that if she is or isn't, the spirit isn't a factor
Thing is, the battle itself doesn't just reference Shantae in Half-Genie Hero, it also includes the skills she learned in Pirate's Curse, in the form of using Zero Suit Samus (who has a pistol), a whip of sorts and giving her a beam sword (scimitar), in addition to her normal shapeshifting powers represented by the spawning tranformation items.One thing that comes to mind on the Spirit debate: is there any particular reason the curent spirit can't be renamed "Shantae (Half Genie Hero)" if Shantae becomes a Fighter?
It would be rather silly if Nintendo couldn't fix a typo or something on spirit name. Retcon for a spirit to Fighter would use a similar system.
Shantae’s face just :IThe Captian N Promo Reboot looks great. I forgot how good was the original when I was younger.
Also, here is a Shantae Artwork for today. (Plus, its a crossover to one of Studio Trigger's animations.)
Artist: AntopellicArt
I think she would definitely be up there, but I don’t think she would pit well against more popular picks like Geno or Waluigi.So we know a Smash Ballot is out of the question for Ultimate, but what if there is another one for Smash 6? How you guys think that one would turn out and how popular did you think our Half-Genie Hero would be by than if she doesn't make it into the roster beforehand?
So you think she would be in the same position in terms of popularity that she is now in the Smash community?So we know a Smash Ballot is out of the question for Ultimate, but what if there is another one for Smash 6? How you guys think that one would turn out and how popular do you think our Half-Genie Hero would be by than if she doesn't make it into the roster beforehand?
To add a layer to the reference, the guy in the back is the protagonist of Inferno Cop, yet another Trigger work.Found some crossover art with an anime I don't know.
Also, I just found this amazing animatic. Don't know how many of you have seen it, but Shantae does make a cameo in it, so I figured to link it here.
Technically, Gurren Lagann's Yoko is from the pre-Trigger days, back when their founders were at Gainax.The Captian N Promo Reboot looks great. I forgot how good was the original when I was younger.
Also, here is a Shantae Artwork for today. (Plus, its a crossover to one of Studio Trigger's animations.)
Artist: AntopellicArt
I kinda feel they won't ever do a ballot again. Firstly they already got a very good idea on how much demand there is for characters still not included, so if they wanted to pull from it there are plenty other popular ones left out. Second, people weren't exactly pleased with how the last ballot went. It wasn't an absolute nightmare, but i think it was still more trouble than it ended up being worth, so I think they would just consider themselves better off without trying it again.So we know a Smash Ballot is out of the question for Ultimate, but what if there is another one for Smash 6? How you guys think that one would turn out and how popular do you think our Half-Genie Hero would be by than if she doesn't make it into the roster beforehand?
It is impossible to say how popular her and other characters will be. I was just saying that as if it was being held with everyone still ranking the same in popularity.So you think she would be in the same position in terms of popularity that she is now in the Smash community?
Adding to that, I think they'll go back to doing house polls in Japan only again. Generally speaking in regards to Japanese culture, if something is done differently and it doesn't work that well, they go back to the tried-and-true and double down on that.I kinda feel they won't ever do a ballot again. Firstly they already got a very good idea on how much demand there is for characters still not included, so if they wanted to pull from it there are plenty other popular ones left out. Second, people weren't exactly pleased with how the last ballot went. It wasn't an absolute nightmare, but i think it was still more trouble than it ended up being worth, so I think they would just consider themselves better off without trying it again.
I wouldn't call it dramatic, actually. It's just things being quiet, as it should be.Until another Nintendo Direct appears with potential Smash News and/or announcements, the speculation will continue.
Also, not to sound dramatic, but the speculations and rumors so far are going through GER with Sakurai and Nintendo doing a great job keeping leaks at bay.
Hope to any potential character to join Smash Ultimate.I wouldn't call it dramatic, actually. It's just things being quiet, as it should be.
That being said, here's a great fan art I came across on a Crash twitter account, of all things. From a Japanese fan, no less.
What I wouldn't give to see this happen.