Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Hadokeyblade]

Maybe they just intend to give us the remaining stages as DLC? I want the old mute city back.

 

[Deleted member]

Maybe they just intend to give us the remaining stages as DLC? I want the old mute city back.

That would be for the extra stages part

 

[Door Key Pig]

I guess it could be that or for if they bring the stage builder back for DLC. That being said I wonder if they'd want to make it one giant whole of stages rather than some sub menu thing, especially with the hand's circle placement used for stage selection, with that being two for the stage morph feature. Would they have you placing one of those simultaneously-existing circles in a separate sub menu?

I don't know if we'll get THIRTY more characters as DLC, but the 30 slots thing to me at the very least suggests there might be SOMETHING beyond Plant and the Fighter's Pass 5, if only costumes or a free echo fighter or something.

 

[Deleted member]

I guess it could be that or for if they bring the stage builder back for DLC. That being said I wonder if they'd want to make it one giant whole of stages rather than some sub menu thing, especially with the hand's circle placement used for stage selection, with that being two for the stage morph feature. Would they have you placing one of those simultaneously-existing circles in a separate sub menu?

I don't know if we'll get THIRTY more characters as DLC, but the 30 slots thing to me at the very least suggests there might be SOMETHING beyond Plant and the Fighter's Pass 5, if only costumes or a free echo fighter or something.

They’re not bringing the stage builder back because it’s not there and don’t listen to pandy what he says is false if you were listening to him what he said about dlc

And costumes don’t count and there are no echos

Now stop pretending shantae has no chance at all

 

[Dukefire]

If you remember, spirits are formless entities that has lost their physical body due to Galeem's universe wipe out. It could be possible to bring that said spirit back by making a 3D model for DLC.

 

[Door Key Pig]

They’re not bringing the stage builder back because it’s not there and don’t listen to pandy what he says is false if you were listening to him what he said about dlc

And costumes don’t count and there are no echos

Now stop pretending shantae has no chance at all

Well costumes like Bayonetta's first game costume and Ike's alternate costume I think do count for those kind of characters slots, like how the Koopalings and Bowser Jr have eight together.

 

[meleebrawler]

Wasn't there some data in the files for an unknown, not present first party character? Could that be filled to be Pirahna Plant's by the time it releases?
Granted, for a unique character that would hypothetically be intended for the base game, he didn't have a gorgeous CGI trailer like the others did...

I assume it's to do with the leftover spot considering the five DLC pack stages?
That is weird. There was press info claiming Pirahna Plant was also going to come with music and a stage later (as DLC post freebie status) but it was changed to omit that, either because it was a leak or because it was wrong. So nor sure what that spot is supposed to be if they left enough for the DLC ones. Even the unique training stage just takes up the existing random slot in its mode, still leaving the spot.

I think Piranha Plant not getting CGI could have been to help sell the confusion. Plenty of people thought it was an elaborate joke in the form of an assist or something until Sakurai spelled it out, which is what I think he was going for.

And then there's Ken showing up in CGI when the other echoes didn't. Really there could be all sorts of reasons to use or not. Ryu's announcement managed to look quite distinct in spite of not using CGI after all.

 

[Wademan94]

And then there's Ken showing up in CGI when the other echoes didn't.

And there was also

 

[Deleted member]

Well costumes like Bayonetta's first game costume and Ike's alternate costume I think do count for those kind of characters slots, like how the Koopalings and Bowser Jr have eight together.

No they don’t they don’t count because they weren’t assigned to them and they don’t have names for it

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Yo, barely related, but Kamiya asks about which of his characters people would want the most.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...his_characters_youd_like_to_see_in_smash_bros

I bet P.Kat is on it posthaste.

Also, it's 29 ID slots, not 30.

 

[Deleted member]

Somthing about shantaes sprit battle gets me sometimes they could haves used
-gritzy desert
-ever oasis tracks
-greudo valley
-underground theme (super mario land)

But no

They just used the mob smash theme and no other requested character that’s a spirit has that

It make me wonder if they’re making a shantae remix

KirbyWorshipper2465 yeah I know that thanks to Batman’s arch enemy

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Somthing about shantaes sprit battle gets me sometimes they could haves used
-gritzy desert
-ever oasis tracks
-greudo valley
-underground theme (super mario land)

But no

They just used the mob smash theme and no other requested character that’s a spirit has that

It make me wonder if they’re making a shantae remix

KirbyWorshipper2465 yeah I know that thanks to Batman’s arch enemy

Well, I actually meant even before Joker was confirmed. For some reason everyone misquotes that part and likes even round numbers.

That being said, that does seem like a curious oversight, especially considering Daisy herself is possessed by Risky.

 

[GoldLiger]

If you remember, spirits are formless entities that has lost their physical body due to Galeem's universe wipe out. It could be possible to bring that said spirit back by making a 3D model for DLC.
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Yeah the spirit of HGH Shantae in the body of her Pirate's Curse version.

Well, I actually meant even before Joker was confirmed. For some reason everyone misquotes that part and likes even round numbers.

That being said, that does seem like a curious oversight, especially considering Daisy herself is possessed by Risky.

I wonder if Mr Bozon has a secret about Risky that they will show in the next Shantae game. Maybe some Royal connection.

 

[Wademan94]

Yeah the spirit of HGH Shantae in the body of her Pirate's Curse version.

Or just flat out her HGH version altogether for her model and her spirit using Pirate’s Curse art instead and they don’t have to force themselves to be limited by a PNG.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Or just flat out her HGH version altogether for her model and her spirit using Pirate’s Curse art instead and they don’t have to force themselves to be limited by a PNG.

Or better yet, have her combine accessories from the first three games for a fully pimped-out Shantae.

 

[Dukefire]

Just to reduce some stress on the discussion, here is a fan made sfm video to melt it away.

 

[Wademan94]

Or better yet, have her combine accessories from the first three games for a fully pimped-out Shantae.

I guess, but there’s more differences between the designs than just the accessories.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I guess, but there’s more differences between the designs than just the accessories.

Well yes, but I don't think they'd outright use varying body proportions.

In any case, I'm sure they'd come up with something better than whatever we think of.

 

[Dukefire]

Sakurai always let the characters have the personality and origins show in the finest details. So, we don't know how he will show Shantae's origins in her moveset if she does enter as a fighter, but guessing will keep us thinking. Just don't go out there showing a sour note to ruin the fun for all of us and imaging a bad picture.

Artist: Kira-Vera

 

[Deleted member]

Off topic but

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[P.Kat]

Yo, barely related, but Kamiya asks about which of his characters people would want the most.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...his_characters_youd_like_to_see_in_smash_bros

I bet P.Kat is on it posthaste.

Also, it's 29 ID slots, not 30.

Yep you betted right, you must be a fortune teller XD. Ultimately she came in second place, Dante was first place, but any attention she can get for Smash is great to me. The strangest thing though, Kamiya's poll ended way earlier than it said it would...

To think a poll like that would be the one thing to make me create a Twitter account.

But to keep things Shantae related, I really hope she gets Flamethrower, as a special move. As well as her third level thunder magic too in HGH, although that might be too OP.

Also, what do you all see for her Final Smash? Me I see Shantae pulling off her Obliterate Dance like HGH.

 

[Wademan94]

Yep you betted right, you must be a fortune teller XD. Ultimately she came in second place, Dante was first place, but any attention she can get for Smash is great to me. The strangest thing though, Kamiya's poll ended way earlier than it said it would...

To think a poll like that would be the one thing to make me create a Twitter account.

But to keep things Shantae related, I really hope she gets Flamethrower, as a special move. As well as her third level thunder magic too in HGH, although that might be too OP.

Also, what do you all see for her Final Smash? Me I see Shantae pulling off her Obliterate Dance like HGH.

I’m hoping for Triple Fireball as we already have a few characters that have Flamethrower moves and I think shooting out three fireballs would be more unique.

And I’m still trying to figure out her FS, but it definitely needs to be flashy.

 

[Kirbeh]

Off topic but

Oh **** it got worse

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Movie Sonic must've heard about Boom Knuckles skipping leg day. Probably figured he needed to set an example.

 

[meleebrawler]

Yep you betted right, you must be a fortune teller XD. Ultimately she came in second place, Dante was first place, but any attention she can get for Smash is great to me. The strangest thing though, Kamiya's poll ended way earlier than it said it would...

To think a poll like that would be the one thing to make me create a Twitter account.

But to keep things Shantae related, I really hope she gets Flamethrower, as a special move. As well as her third level thunder magic too in HGH, although that might be too OP.

Also, what do you all see for her Final Smash? Me I see Shantae pulling off her Obliterate Dance like HGH.

A fire spell is practically a given what with how much she's associated with it in artwork. Make it chargeable with stages and you could easily incorporate all three forms of it in Half-Genie Hero.

I only see one Final Smash fitting for her, and that's Friends To The End, a combination attack with Sky, Bolo and Rottytops in the same vein as Chain Attack (the level three Electric Storm could be used as the opening hit). Obliterate Dance is both boring and is hardly a staple part of her moveset, meanwhile her friends have been there from the beginning, have always been crucial in helping Shantae fulfill her objectives and pulled her out of her darkest hour.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

And I’m still trying to figure out her FS, but it definitely needs to be flashy.

I had an idea for her FS involving the Guardian Genies, and the Genie Realm?

 

[LaBeteNoire]

I had an idea for her FS involving the Guardian Genies, and the Genie Realm?

That would be cool, transporting any fighter in range to the Genie realm and then unleashing a massive magic blast from all the genies

 

[Wademan94]

I only see one Final Smash fitting for her, and that's Friends To The End, a combination attack with Sky, Bolo and Rottytops in the same vein as Chain Attack (the level three Electric Storm could be used as the opening hit). Obliterate Dance is both boring and is hardly a staple part of her moveset, meanwhile her friends have been there from the beginning, have always been crucial in helping Shantae fulfill her objectives and pulled her out of her darkest hour.

As cool as it would be, I don’t think it’l have a high chance of happening thinking about it from a developmental perspective. I’d be all for the idea if we still had Trophies because there would’ve been a chance to have them available as 3D models. It’s a tall order to create 3 separate models to only be used for a DLC character’s Final Smash, especially from a series that hasn’t had its characters officially made 3D outside of merch.

Also, regardless of how they’re represented, her transformations would still be separate models needed to be created and animated, so adding three more characters for her FS on top of that would probably take way more development time. Maybe in the base game, but I doubt it’ll happen if she’s DLC.

I had an idea for her FS involving the Guardian Genies, and the Genie Realm?

Potentially, but I do know I want the background effects for her FS to resemble the background of the Genie Realm at least.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I had an idea for her FS involving the Guardian Genies, and the Genie Realm?

Now there's a creative idea, almost as grandiose as the Blast-O-Matic.

 

[Wademan94]

The idea I’ve kinda settled on for now until I see a better option is (while the background resembles the Genie Realm) similar to Sonic and Pac-Man where she dashes back and forth across the screen damaging opponents with a different transformation every time she appears on-screen before finishing with a giant elephant stomp like in her boss fight in Pirate Queen’s Quest.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

The idea I’ve kinda settled on for now until I see a better option is (while the background resembles the Genie Realm) similar to Sonic and Pac-Man where she dashes back and forth across the screen damaging opponents with a different transformation every time she appears on-screen before finishing with a giant elephant stomp like in her boss fight in Pirate Queen’s Quest.

So, it would look kind of similar to some of Nega Shantae's attacks, then?

 

[Wademan94]

So, it would look kind of similar to some of Nega Shantae's attacks, then?

Potentially, I mean she used those attacks first in her boss fight, so they belong to her as well.

 

[TOY the Gamer]

I'm back, fam!

One day, she'll get to do this officially.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

As an assist trophy

 

[Deleted member]

I'm back, fam!

One day, she'll get to do this officially.View attachment 183486

I wish ryu and ken was there. then I would be complete

Also good to see you again

As an assist trophy

I’m sorry but......what?

 

[meleebrawler]

As cool as it would be, I don’t think it’l have a high chance of happening thinking about it from a developmental perspective. I’d be all for the idea if we still had Trophies because there would’ve been a chance to have them available as 3D models. It’s a tall order to create 3 separate models to only be used for a DLC character’s Final Smash, especially from a series that hasn’t had its characters officially made 3D outside of merch.

Also, regardless of how they’re represented, her transformations would still be separate models needed to be created and animated, so adding three more characters for her FS on top of that would probably take way more development time. Maybe in the base game, but I doubt it’ll happen if she’s DLC.



Potentially, but I do know I want the background effects for her FS to resemble the background of the Genie Realm at least.

Didn't stop them from putting Gomorrah in Bayonetta's for 4, and we just got Paula, Poo, Kumatora and Boney for Ness & Lucas's final smashes even though the latter two in particular have never, ever gotten official 3D models until now.

Also, it's not like there's a set deadline for these DLC characters to be released.

 

[Wademan94]

Didn't stop them from putting Gomorrah in Bayonetta's for 4, and we just got Paula, Poo, Kumatora and Boney for Ness & Lucas's final smashes even though the latter two in particular have never, ever gotten official 3D models until now.

Also, it's not like there's a set deadline for these DLC characters to be released.

The Earthbound characters were added base game and Gomorrah had existing models to work from.

I’m not saying it’s impossible and I’d be all for it if they make it work, I’m just saying it’ll take a lot longer for a character that could potentially already take more time and I don’t think it should be the only option

 

[meleebrawler]

The Earthbound characters were added base game and Gomorrah had existing models to work from.

I’m not saying it’s impossible and I’d be all for it if they make it work, I’m just saying it’ll take a lot longer for a character that could potentially already take more time and I don’t think it should be the only option

Well, I'm not hearing any other good ideas that don't also require models to be made...

I just looked up Obliterate Dance, and it's as bland as they come. Not even a real, extra-flashy animation, enemies on-screen take damage and that's it.

 

[Deleted member]

Hadokeyblade i want you to ask me this

What made you say shantae as an assist trophy during someone saying that she’ll get to do this?

Is it because you fear about her fate in the next smash game or is it because of what someone said to you or on a post?

Or maybe your secretly Hollywoodrok12 in disguise and you made another account?

Nah there’s no way.

 

[Wademan94]

Well, I'm not hearing any other good ideas that don't also require models to be made...

I just looked up Obliterate Dance, and it's as bland as they come. Not even a real, extra-flashy animation, enemies on-screen take damage and that's it.

I’m struggling to as well, but I will agree that the Obliterate Dance feels way too basic. Maybe there could be a way to spice it up? I’m sure something creative enough will come to one of us.

 

[~The Koopa King~]

i feel like the fact King K.Rool and Ridley had to wait as long as they did just to get into smash doesn't make me feel super great about shantae's chances now