Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[DOTBHDD]

We don't know genies age slower. And I highly doubt she's in her 30's or older. Heck, I doubt she's over 20 if even that old. Reasons? Sky and her have been friends as long as Sky can remember. Risky knew Shantae's mother.

Well she wouldn't age slower. She'd age normally. So when they were kids, she could've looked like 4 or 5 but was actually a little older.

I don't think we know the age of her friends, do we? Sky looks and acts like she could be a young college mother. Bolo looks 16 to 18. Risky... is purple so I don't even know if she's human.

I really wart WayForward to go into the lore of the series next game. I wanna know why the hell Risky is purple and why Shantae's dad looks like he could've single handly ended a war with brute force. I wanna know if Shantae being a genie actually effects her aging process. I wanna know who she gets the purple hair from. I wanna know why Bolo has no nose.

I wanna know if Squid Baron will ever become a final boss!

 

[Wwlink55]

I've been checking /v/ a bit, because its at least a fairly decent place to discuss things, especially recent Smash Bros Ultimate developments. Shantae is being discussed at a far higher frequency than before. Doesn't confirm anything, but she is definitely becoming more of a popularly discussed character in both good and bad ways. Lots of people are starting to troll that "she's confirmed" and just try to frustrate people.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I don't see why the whole argument about her being too young matters that much, fanart wise anyway. The character's age is all down to what the artist thinks, so all of the porn surrounding her is fine, if you think about it like that.

Though, Wayforward does market her as being sexy sometimes, soo...

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Well she wouldn't age slower. She'd age normally. So when they were kids, she could've looked like 4 or 5 but was actually a little older.

I don't think we know the age of her friends, do we? Sky looks and acts like she could be a young college mother. Bolo looks 16 to 18. Risky... is purple so I don't even know if she's human.

I really wart WayForward to go into the lore of the series next game. I wanna know why the hell Risky is purple and why Shantae's dad looks like he could've single handly ended a war with brute force. I wanna know if Shantae being a genie actually effects her aging process. I wanna know who she gets the purple hair from. I wanna know why Bolo has no nose.

I wanna know if Squid Baron will ever become a final boss!

Fun fact, Risky was originally going to be a ghost pirate. Her odd complexion from those days has stuck. Still, I do think that the next entries will reveal more bits of info, especially since the first game seemed self-contained enough, then LORE happened come the DS/3DS era.

As for Bolo's nose, don't overthink that one, to me it's a Krillin type of thing.

I've been checking /v/ a bit, because its at least a fairly decent place to discuss things, especially recent Smash Bros Ultimate developments. Shantae is being discussed at a far higher frequency than before. Doesn't confirm anything, but she is definitely becoming more of a popularly discussed character in both good and bad ways. Lots of people are starting to troll that "she's confirmed" and just try to frustrate people.

It's a strange day when /v/ is a more civil place to bring up Shantae than Gamefaqs.

Spoiler

Also, /m/ is a chill place to chat on a good day, they naturally appreciate Mega Man and ROB being in Smash.

 

[Paragon-Yoshi]

Why are people actually thinking Shantae is 30 or 40 at least?

Did you guys forget that she is NOT a full-fledged genie?!
She is a HALF-GENIE! Half genie, half human.

With that in mind, I'd say she ages like a normal human.

 

[Wademan94]

Why are people actually thinking Shantae is 30 or 40 at least?

Did you guys forget that she is NOT a full-fledged genie?!
She is a HALF-GENIE! Half genie, half human.

With that in mind, I'd say she ages like a normal human.

All this discussion here started to make me think and at the risk of sounding stupid, I feel compelled to ask this anyway: Do we even know if genies in the Shantae universe are supposed to be immortal?

 

[Mrs.Milky]

I wanna know why Bolo has no nose.

Hey! Bolo has a beautiful non existent nose mind you.

 

[DOTBHDD]

I don't see why the whole argument about her being too young matters that much, fanart wise anyway. The character's age is all down to what the artist thinks, so all of the porn surrounding her is fine, if you think about it like that.

Though, Wayforward does markets her being sexy sometimes, soo...

That's my only issue. I'm fine with Risky being the sexual seduction of the series. It fits her personality well anyway. Same with Rottytops because all WayForward has to do is say Rotty died at 18 and is permanently 18 and it's cool.

Shantae looks and acts like a kid. And the whole "She's too developed" argument can't work because girls develop way quicker than people remember.

It just comes off as weird because Shantae is advertised so confusingly. You have cartoon boobs everywhere but Shantae wears revealing outfits and she may not even be legal. But at the same time they advertise her as the cute little genie girl who's adorable and sweet. So they're sending consumers mixed messages. They need to just pick one. Is she cute or is she sexy.

You can't have Shantae be this adorable little girl wearing pajamas but then have an entire mode and wallpaper focused on her in a bikini. I think that's why a lot of people have issues with Shantae. And as much as I love the series, it's something Matt and WayForward need to fix. Especially when Matt says he writes her as a 16 year old. It looks bad even though that's not what he means.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

That's my only issue. I'm fine with Risky being the sexual seduction of the series. It fits her personality well anyway. Same with Rottytops because all WayForward has to do is say Rotty died at 18 and is permanently 18 and it's cool.

Shantae looks and acts like a kid. And the whole "She's too developed" argument can't work because girls develop way quicker than people remember.

It just comes off as weird because Shantae is advertised so confusingly. You have cartoon boobs everywhere but Shantae wears revealing outfits and she may not even be legal. But at the same time they advertise her as the cute little genie girl who's adorable and sweet. So they're sending consumers mixed messages. They need to just pick one. Is she cute or is she sexy.

You can't have Shantae be this adorable little girl wearing pajamas but then have an entire mode and wallpaper focused on her in a bikini. I think that's why a lot of people have issues with Shantae. And as much as I love the series, it's something Matt and WayForward need to fix. Especially when Matt says he writes her as a 16 year old. It looks bad even though that's not what he means.

They have had Fanservice Mode turned on all the time since Xtreme Sports.

Well, except for A Boy & His Blob, that has no fan service at all and just gives you feels instead.

Also, that Aliens game on DS that swaps that out for terror and death.

 

[Wademan94]

I wanna know why Bolo has no nose.

Not that you think about it, a good chunk male characters don’t have noses. Not Mimic, not the Mayor, not Ammo Baron, not Baraccuda Joe, not Poe...

 

[ActualGarbage]

Not that you think about it, a good chunk male characters don’t have noses. Not Mimic, not the Mayor, not Ammo Baron, not Baraccuda Joe, not Poe...

IDEA: Play a Shantae game in one go and take a shot every time a character doesn't have a nose.

 

[NukeA6]

All this discussion here started to make me think and at the risk of sounding stupid, I feel compelled to ask this anyway: Do we even know if genies in the Shantae universe are supposed to be immortal?

The four guardian genies are ancient but still look as young as Shantae but of course, not many played the first game and many won't since apparently, there's the thought it's not as good as the other games.

 

[MajestyIndigo]

I think that she ages normally since Mimic has been able to see her as a baby wearing diapers ( end of ninja's mode ).

EDIT : the conversation about her being "legal" or not makes me a bit uncomfortable

 

[meleebrawler]

That's my only issue. I'm fine with Risky being the sexual seduction of the series. It fits her personality well anyway. Same with Rottytops because all WayForward has to do is say Rotty died at 18 and is permanently 18 and it's cool.

Shantae looks and acts like a kid. And the whole "She's too developed" argument can't work because girls develop way quicker than people remember.

It just comes off as weird because Shantae is advertised so confusingly. You have cartoon boobs everywhere but Shantae wears revealing outfits and she may not even be legal. But at the same time they advertise her as the cute little genie girl who's adorable and sweet. So they're sending consumers mixed messages. They need to just pick one. Is she cute or is she sexy.

You can't have Shantae be this adorable little girl wearing pajamas but then have an entire mode and wallpaper focused on her in a bikini. I think that's why a lot of people have issues with Shantae. And as much as I love the series, it's something Matt and WayForward need to fix. Especially when Matt says he writes her as a 16 year old. It looks bad even though that's not what he means.

It's very warm in Sequin Land. The only places that get cold are the top of mountains and remote islands presumably in the far north. In the first game Rottytops asks Shantae if she has warmer clothes to venture up a mountain, and her response is bafflement over why anyone would wear them, showing that she has never encountered cold weather in her entire life. And in Pirate's Curse she's only mildly surprised by desert heat, demonstrating the average temperature she lives in. That's not even getting into, if Beach mode is anything to go by, actual summer weather where the sun is so hot it kills you in seconds without protection. Indoors.

 

[DOTBHDD]

They have had Fanservice Mode turned on all the time since Xtreme Sports.

Well, except for A Boy & His Blob, that has no fan service at all and just gives you feels instead.

Also, that Aliens game on DS that swaps that out for terror and death.

I'm fine with fan service However; Shantae is coming up in popularity, right? She's like gaming's little underdog. But as her popularity increases, more questions are being asked.

If you're advertising Shantae as an underage attractive teenage genie girl, people are gonna be turned off from the series. Shantae is supposed to be accessible for kids.

I think having Risky be sexual or the Squid Blacksmith is fine. Risky being a sexual seductress adds to the character. Squid Blacksmith being sexual is over the top and funny.

When the protagonist is supposedly underage and having modes wear she's running around in a bikini, who's gonna buy that for their kid. It doesn't add anything and almost alienates a potential audience.

That's just my take on the situation. Shantae needs to be advertised better. Her outfit is fine because it's traditional. Making a wallpaper dedicated to her in a bikini is too much.

I don't know. I'd like to hear more opinions on the matter because I have given this some thought.

 

[Takasmash]

Shantae will be hype if she is the last character to be reveal Next Month it will be Bayonetta Smash 4 Deja Vu. Plus we need a true third partie not like Geno he's own by Nintendo and Square Enix manly Square. I dont know I want Geno too.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I'm fine with fan service However; Shantae is coming up in popularity, right? She's like gaming's little underdog. But as her popularity increases, more questions are being asked.

If you're advertising Shantae as an underage attractive teenage genie girl, people are gonna be turned off from the series. Shantae is supposed to be accessible for kids.

I think having Risky be sexual or the Squid Blacksmith is fine. Risky being a sexual seductress adds to the character. Squid Blacksmith being sexual is over the top and funny.

When the protagonist is supposedly underage and having modes wear she's running around in a bikini, who's gonna buy that for their kid. It doesn't add anything and almost alienates a potential audience.

That's just my take on the situation. Shantae needs to be advertised better. Her outfit is fine because it's traditional. Making a wallpaper dedicated to her in a bikini is too much.

I don't know. I'd like to hear more opinions on the matter because I have given this some thought.

Hmm, well I don't know if it really is for kids though, because all of the games besides the first one, have been rated "12". (I don't know what the equivalent ESRB rating is, but I'm not bothered to look it up )

 

[ActualGarbage]

Hmm, well I don't know if it really is for kids though, because all of the games besides the first one, have been rated "12". (I don't know what the equivalent ESRB rating is, but I'm not bothered to look it up )

It's "T" over here so I mean, not exactly baby game.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Hmm, well I don't know if it really is for kids though, because all of the games besides the first one, have been rated "12". (I don't know what the equivalent ESRB rating is, but I'm not bothered to look it up )

E10+ I believe.

But these days it's a little easier to get away with, since the first game only had an E rating. Plus they tell you about suggestive content, right on the box.

 

[meleebrawler]

I'm fine with fan service However; Shantae is coming up in popularity, right? She's like gaming's little underdog. But as her popularity increases, more questions are being asked.

If you're advertising Shantae as an underage attractive teenage genie girl, people are gonna be turned off from the series. Shantae is supposed to be accessible for kids.

I think having Risky be sexual or the Squid Blacksmith is fine. Risky being a sexual seductress adds to the character. Squid Blacksmith being sexual is over the top and funny.

When the protagonist is supposedly underage and having modes wear she's running around in a bikini, who's gonna buy that for their kid. It doesn't add anything and almost alienates a potential audience.

That's just my take on the situation. Shantae needs to be advertised better. Her outfit is fine because it's traditional. Making a wallpaper dedicated to her in a bikini is too much.

I don't know. I'd like to hear more opinions on the matter because I have given this some thought.

The games are rated E10+ to Teen, if parents can't figure out there's suggestive content that's on them. And it doesn't matter who's dishing it out.

Besides the whole temperature debacle I just mentioned (she's in a bikini a lot because hitting the beach is one of the few ways to beat the summer heat), there is also the fact that Shantae as a series draws a lot from Metroid, and that includes being rewarded for completing them with certain criteria in the form of your heroine in attractive clothing.

 

[DOTBHDD]

Hmm, well I don't know if it really is for kids though, because all of the games besides the first one, have been rated "12". (I don't know what the equivalent ESRB rating is, but I'm not bothered to look it up )

I'm fine with E10+ really. Shantae's outfit isn't even a big deal. But like... Giga Mermaid.

I think WayForward is trying to push this for a game for teens but... idk. I'm very confused with how they're trying to advertise Shantae.

I just checked Mario Odyssey's rating and it's E10+ but any kid can play Mario. I think too much unnecessary aspects go into Shantae games to make it T.

 

[meleebrawler]

I'm fine with E10+ really. Shantae's outfit isn't even a big deal. But like... Giga Mermaid.

I think WayForward is trying to push this for a game for teens but... idk. I'm very confused with how they're trying to advertise Shantae.

I just checked Mario Odyssey's rating and it's E10+ but any kid can play Mario. I think too much unnecessary aspects go into Shantae games to make it T.

Peach wears a bikini at certain points in the game. Also you can see Mario's nipples, that's clearly the most lewd thing to have ever been put in a game .

 

[Deleted member]

uhhhhh.....guys?

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Do you think?
Can it be?

 

[DOTBHDD]

The games are rated E10+ to Teen, if parents can't figure out there's suggestive content that's on them. And it doesn't matter who's dishing it out.

Besides the whole temperature debacle I just mentioned (she's in a bikini a lot because hitting the beach is one of the few ways to beat the summer heat), there is also the fact that Shantae as a series draws a lot from Metroid, and that includes being rewarded for completing them with certain criteria in the form of your heroine in attractive clothing.

About to Double Post. Please don't kill me, Dlly.

That's my issue. It's how they're depicting her. Shantae is supposed to be a teenager. Not a sexy young adult. They can't make up their minds as to which she is. Samus is straight up an adult. So is Bayonetta. Those games justify it. Shantae is... maybe 16? Maybe 18?

It's not the same. They can sexualize Risky and Squid Blacksmith. But why Shantae?

I don't think Matt really cared too much about this when creating the character or the series. I'm only giving this subject a hard time because she's growing in popularity. Not everyone is going to be okay with the sexualization of a teenage girl.

The outfit is fine. It's traditional. The bikini is less fine. They need to just straight up decide. They're an indie company but they still need to make big decisions if they want their IP to flourish.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I'm fine with E10+ really. Shantae's outfit isn't even a big deal. But like... Giga Mermaid.

I think WayForward is trying to push this for a game for teens but... idk. I'm very confused with how they're trying to advertise Shantae.

I just checked Mario Odyssey's rating and it's E10+ but any kid can play Mario. I think too much unnecessary aspects go into Shantae games to make it T.

Yet people still freaked out over Mario's milk duds anyway, 'cause they're not used to that.

I think the folks at WF operate on an adopted Japanese type of mindset compared to other devs, seeing as they have no problem putting in titillation, in a country that's pretty conservative on that sort of thing (but violence is a-ok nowadays, I guess).

About to Double Post. Please don't kill me, Dlly.

That's my issue. It's how they're depicting her. Shantae is supposed to be a teenager. Not a sexy young adult. They can't make up their minds as to which she is. Samus is straight up an adult. So is Bayonetta. Those games justify it. Shantae is... maybe 16? Maybe 18?

It's not the same. They can sexualize Risky and Squid Blacksmith. But why Shantae?

I don't think Matt really cared too much about this when creating the character or the series. I'm only giving this subject a hard time because she's growing in popularity. Not everyone is going to be okay with the sexualization of a teenage girl.

The outfit is fine. It's traditional. The bikini is less fine. They need to just straight up decide. They're an indie company but they still need to make big decisions if they want their IP to flourish.

If you want to blame anyone, there's Matt's wife for creating the character in the first place.

But then again, I think they really just have Shantae portrayed as "young" so that no one would think she's as old as Risky, post-GBC.

Besides, isn't 16 the age when a girl's body has pretty much reached peak growth/maturity anyway?

 

[perfectchaos83]

uhhhhh.....guys?

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Can it be?

I wouldn't read into it. They retweet a lot of random companies

 

[DOTBHDD]

Yet people still freaked out over Mario's milk duds anyway, 'cause they're not used to that.

I think the folks at WF operate on an adopted Japanese type of mindset compared to other devs, seeing as they have no problem putting in titillation, in a country that's pretty conservative on that sort of thing (but violence is a-ok nowadays, I guess).

People freaked out about Mario nipples!? LMAO! That's actually really funny. Most posts I saw about his nipples was how silly it was it's taken this long to see Mario shirtless.

And I had that thought too. Many animated Japanese girls looks both young and sexualized.

And the fan service in the series isn't that bad. It's just that the games seem like they're ramming up the service. Like Giga Mermaid, Beach Mode, and that's all fine and dandy. I just don't want them to alienate a large amount of people just to add a little fan service.

I think Risky and Squid Blacksmith should be the fan service queens of the series and let Shantae's fan service not extend anything beyond that cute ass butt wiggle she does.

 

[EarlTamm]

I personally feel that the Shantae series has created sexy designs(And will continue to do so), but have not really sexulized those characters. A sexy character and a sexulized character are two completely different things, and I think the company walks that line fairly well. Sure they made the Giga Mermaid, but did she ever do anything that sexual or risque? No, she just looked attractive. And when it comes to Shantae herself, I have never felt she had any sexulizing moments. Her normal attire is fitting for her role and local, and whenever she does have to put on more revealing stuff, it's always very tongue and cheek.

 

[NukeA6]

uhhhhh.....guys?

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Do you think?
Can it be?

LeakyPanda is about as reliable as a used car salesman.

 

[Wwlink55]

While I wait for Smash news, I've been playing some fan games. Super Smash Bros Crusade has Shantae as a fighter.

 

[ActualGarbage]

LeakyPanda is about as reliable as a used car salesman.

*Slaps top of LeakyPandy's head*
This bad boy can fit so many fake leaks in it.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

While I wait for Smash news, I've been playing some fan games. Super Smash Bros Crusade has Shantae as a fighter.

Yup, we know. She really doesn't have the best moveset there, but it's still good to see her appear in it anyhow.

Super Smash Brothers Crusade really isn't the best though, I assume you've tried out Super Smash Flash 2 already as well?

 

[Wwlink55]

Yup, we know. She really doesn't have the best moveset there, but it's still good to see her appear in it anyhow.

Super Smash Brothers Crusade really isn't the best though, I assume you've tried out Super Smash Flash 2 already as well?

I have tried it. Couldn't really get used to the controls of that one. It felt like maps were too small and characters went absolutely flying.

 

[Teeb147]

Just dropping by for a little bit. (and missed a few pages)

I havent liked too too much the fan smash games, but they're not bad either. Flash 2 would be the better one gameplay wise if only it could run alright on most computers :/

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On the topic of sexiness,
I think that WF does kind of walk a narrow line between something youthful and something more adult, but they dont go overboard, though some things could make sense for a teen rating. But it's not like there's anything really inappropriate, maybe just how some people think about her, or with fan art. I think it'd be smarter to say she's 18 or around there, but most of the comments I saw on the subject say it doesnt bother them much. And her design herself is of a dancer that would show more skin anyway.
They could do a few things better, but it's worked ok up to now, and certainly nothing compared to what comes out from japan. I do think a teen rating would be ok. (even if kids wouldnt get mature references anyway)

But other than that, it's really up to each person's interpretation. The same design could be used if they were to say she's older. I do think the game could tone a few things down, but it's not too bad.

 

[Wwlink55]

Who is Leaky Panda, exactly?

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Who is Leaky Panda, exactly?

He's a panda, who pisses himself a lot.

I have no idea either, actually.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

uhhhhh.....guys?

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Do you think?
Can it be?

For five minutes days could you not read too deep into ****...

You're a good guy, Connor, but you have a nasty tendency to read into anything that may or may not matter

 

[Mario9919]

Jammies Shantae is the only correct answer. Also notice how Beach Shantae is everyone's least favorite.

Conclusion: Cute and adorable Shantae is better than hot and sexy Shantae.

I will stand by that statement until I die.

Nobody likes the Beach Mode due to the short time limit it includes.

I thought Shantae being 16 was canon.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrBozon/status/620411784512442368

Apparently not. I still think Shantae is actually an old *** lady or a middle age lady because genies live way longer than humans. Even if you are only half.

Also... it makes her legal.

As for ages, this is what I think:

Shantae = 16-17
Sky = 18
Bolo = 17
Rottytops = 19 (when alive but still is in spirit)
Risky = 36
Twitch and Vinegar = 16 & 18

It seems the most accurate right?

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Nobody likes the Beach Mode due to the short time limit it includes.





As for ages, this is what I think:

Shantae = 16-17
Sky = 18
Bolo = 17
Rottytops = 19 (when alive but still is in spirit)
Risky = 36
Twitch and Vinegar = 16 & 18

It seems the most accurate right?

Nah, Rotty's the same age as me. She's perfect in every other way, why not that too?

And, damn, Risky's much younger than I would have ever thought.

 

[Deleted member]

For five minutes days could you not read too deep into ****...

You're a good guy, Connor, but you have a nasty tendency to read into anything that may or may not matter

Sorry
Also it should have been this