Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Shadowknight1]

smol ****** shantae

Ya know, I was getting curious about Shantae. So hey, I shot a message over to WayForward asking how tall our girl is. I mean, we've gotten answers for this kind of stuff before. We know Shantae's about 16 years old and Rottytops smells like cotton candy lip balm.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Why not make her standard special a Fireball or Pike Ball and have her dance be a

Ya know, I was getting curious about Shantae. So hey, I shot a message over to WayForward asking how tall our girl is. I mean, we've gotten answers for this kind of stuff before. We know Shantae's about 16 years old and Rottytops smells like cotton candy lip balm.

That's my favourite smell. She's my favourite everything.

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

Prior to reading the excerpt from I always thought that they'd use her HGH design with PC proportions, but now I'm not sure, especially since I can't really picture her being shorter than Pit, but rather about the same height.

Also, after thinking about the Daisy hip bump thing, I figured that it might be possible for it to be Jeanne. What do you guys think?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Also, after thinking about the Daisy hip bump thing, I figured that it might be possible for it to be Jeanne. What do you guys think?

At the end of a dream, I very briefly heard about Jeanne being announced as an echo fighter for Ultimate in the news, but somehow couldn't visualise any of it. So, not even my subconscious is sure about this.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

It'd be interesting to see if the Indivisible design of Shantae could possibly play a role in how tall she could be, even if it's from a different company and not WF?
Though it could be up to WF to make a good Shantae design sheet, which either could have her be tiny and cartoonishly proportioned or made more "realistic" and be sort of a tall character. Maybe Sakurai might prefer one style over the other?

 

[Wademan94]

Why not make her standard special a Fireball or Pike Ball and have her dance be a

Ya know, I was getting curious about Shantae. So hey, I shot a message over to WayForward asking how tall our girl is. I mean, we've gotten answers for this kind of stuff before. We know Shantae's about 16 years old and Rottytops smells like cotton candy lip balm.

My main concern if they’re going for the HGH styled menu, having a directionally controlled UI be mapped to anything aside from the neutral special would be confusing and uneasy to use even if there wasn’t a transformation mapped to that direction

Prior to reading the excerpt from I always thought that they'd use her HGH design with PC proportions, but now I'm not sure, especially since I can't really picture her being shorter than Pit, but rather about the same height.

Also, after thinking about the Daisy hip bump thing, I figured that it might be possible for it to be Jeanne. What do you guys think?

I think something to take into consideration with her design is her hair whip, it’s at a higher point than her arms so the taller her design, the higher her hair whip would be and how it’d affect her attacking capabilities towards smaller characters

 

[Teeb147]

My main concern if they’re going for the HGH styled menu, having a directionally controlled UI be mapped to anything aside from the neutral special would be confusing and uneasy to use even if there wasn’t a transformation mapped to that direction



I think something to take into consideration with her design is her hair whip, it’s at a higher point than her arms so the taller her design, the higher her hair whip would be and how it’d affect her attacking capabilities towards smaller characters

Yeah I think she should be a bit on the shorter side, not as tall as Pit, but she shoulsn't be chibi small either. Just a good height to make it all work.

 

[Sudz]

Yeah I think she should be a bit on the shorter side, not as tall as Pit, but she shoulsn't be chibi small either. Just a good height to make it all work.

Mario height?

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Mario height?

I think Luigi's height would be better. Maybe a bit too tall though. I don't know anymore. I'm bored as ****.

 

[Booper Blooper]

Yeah I think she should be a bit on the shorter side, not as tall as Pit, but she shoulsn't be chibi small either. Just a good height to make it all work.

Maybe around Inkling size?

 

[Sudz]

I think Luigi's height would be better. Maybe a bit too tall though. I don't know anymore. I'm bored as ****.

Luigi is shorter than Pit IIRC, and barely taller than Mario. I think it's a good comparison

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Maybe around Inkling size?

Now that's a bit too small.

 

[EarlTamm]

What's the size between Pit and Mega Man?

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Now that's a bit too small.

It would be perfect size for the Chibi Shantae, but I can't see any other height other than Zelda's height to being perfect.
And by Zelda's height, I meant Twilight Princess' Zelda, though ALBW Zelda could work pretty well, too.

 

[Booper Blooper]

Now that's a bit too small.

They're slightly bigger than Mario, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73NGG6n_iY

I wasn't necessarily talking about proportions, more actual size.

 

[Sudz]

What's the size between Pit and Mega Man?

Mario-ish.

It would be perfect size for the Chibi Shantae, but I can't see any other height other than Zelda's height to being perfect.
And by Zelda's height, I meant Twilight Princess' Zelda, though ALBW Zelda could work pretty well, too.

Zelda would be entirely too tall imho, I think Shantae should be short but not chibi size

They're slightly bigger than Mario, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73NGG6n_iY

I wasn't necessarily talking about proportions, more actual size.

Inkling is taller than I expected!

 

[Wademan94]

What's the size between Pit and Mega Man?

Not much

 

[EarlTamm]

Mario-ish.

Well, I meant number wise in game. Anyway, I agree with Shantae being short, but not to the point of chibi.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

It would be perfect size for the Chibi Shantae, but I can't see any other height other than Zelda's height to being perfect.
And by Zelda's height, I meant Twilight Princess' Zelda, though ALBW Zelda could work pretty well, too.

You were talking about the Indivisible design for Shantae earlier, and yeah I could see that one fitting Zelda's height.

 

[EarlTamm]

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I did always think she would be a little shorter than Pit, and I think that in-between would be a good size for her.

 

[Sudz]

Well, I meant number wise in game. Anyway, I agree with Shantae being short, but not to the point of chibi.

Oh I have no idea in that case. Chibi Shantae would be kinda whack tbh

 

[Staarih]

As long as the proportions are okay, I don’t really care what size Shantae is.

And the proportions I’d rather see is those of the official/dialogue/splash arts instead of the chibi seen in usual gameplay. But we’ll see.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Oh I have no idea in that case. Chibi Shantae would be kinda whack tbh

Well, there is Link and Toon Link...

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

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Ok. Yeah I can see that. Thought Mega Man was shorter than that, TBH.

 

[Sudz]

Well, there is Link and Toon Link...

Yeahhhhh idk if I'd say those are the same tho. I'm not nearly as down for Toon Shantae

 

[EarlTamm]

Ok. Yeah I can see that. Thought Mega Man was shorter than that, TBH.

Funny, I also remembered Mega Man being shorter. I thought the gap would be wider, but apparently not.

 

[Kuon]

As long as the proportions are okay, I don’t really care what size Shantae is.

And the proportions I’d rather see is those of the official/dialogue/splash arts instead of the chibi seen in usual gameplay. But we’ll see.

I have a feeling they'd either go with the proportions in Pirate's Curse or Half Genie Hero, since those games were around the time development for Ultimate began, and I think those two sprites are the most well known for Shantae. I feel like it'd be easier to use those sprites than the drawings during the cut scenes, since those are static images

 

[Wademan94]

I still think her portrait art design from HGH would be the perfect fit for this game, not too tall but not too chibi, the proportions on that design (with maybe some minor tweaking) match her sprite better than any other design and we have a official glimpse of what it could look like as a 3D model:

 

[Sudz]

I have a feeling they'd either go with the proportions in Pirate's Curse or Half Genie Hero, since those games were around the time development for Ultimate began, and I think those two sprites are the most well known for Shantae. I feel like it'd be easier to use those sprites than the drawings during the cut scenes, since those are static images

That, and the fact that playing as animu Shantae wouldn't be nearly as indicative of the franchise's gameplay when compared to her sprite design. I've always felt that Smash did a good job of mimicking the way a character is played in their own game, when possible.

SmolShantae2k18

 

[Staarih]

Quoting this from the speculation thread because of amazing Shantae art, no idea of original source:

Same, and we all know who it's going to be:

Spoiler

 

[AngrySun88]

As long as the proportions are okay, I don’t really care what size Shantae is.

And the proportions I’d rather see is those of the official/dialogue/splash arts instead of the chibi seen in usual gameplay. But we’ll see.

My thoughts exactly. I think more people are probably familiar with the Pirate's Curse and HGH designs of her so I think that's what Sakurai would likely pull from.

As long as she's not unrealistically proportioned and is playable, I don't really care what design they give her.

 

[Wademan94]

Quoting this from the speculation thread because of amazing Shantae art, no idea of original source:

That’s definitely twisted-wind’s, I recognize that artstyle anywhere.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

My thoughts exactly. I think more people are probably familiar with the Pirate's Curse and HGH designs of her so I think that's what Sakurai would likely pull from.

As long as she's not unrealistically proportioned and is playable, I don't really care what design they give her.

I can agree to that. Maybe as a little nodback to her older outfit, maybe that could possibly appear as a costume? Also, I half-expect her Nega form to appear as her "dark" costume, ala Link/Toon Link with their Dark Link/Dark Toon Link costumes.

 

[AngrySun88]

I still think her portrait art design from HGH would be the perfect fit for this game, not too tall but not too chibi, the proportions on that design (with maybe some minor tweaking) match her sprite better than any other design and we have a official glimpse of what it could look like as a 3D model:

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Remember that Sakurai is also looking for more expressive characters. Shantae's HGH and Pirate's Curse designs are much more expressive than her sprite forms.

 

[Sudz]

While not perfect, I am partial to this...

Remember that Sakurai is also looking for more expressive characters. Shantae's HGH and Pirate's Curse designs are much more expressive than her sprite forms.

Her sprites are FAR from nonexpressive. I disagree with this entirely, just because her portraits can have more detail (because they're portraits, duh) does not mean that her sprites in any way do not show much expression. They show a ton of emotion!

 

[Dyllybirdy]

While not perfect, I am partial to this...

Why are her eyes so far apart! And her pants are completely the wrong material! Personally, I'd be fine with any design that was created after Pirate's Curse (except Runbow's). All of those design's proportions would fit in Smash.

 

[Kuon]

That, and the fact that playing as animu Shantae wouldn't be nearly as indicative of the franchise's gameplay when compared to her sprite design. I've always felt that Smash did a good job of mimicking the way a character is played in their own game, when possible.

SmolShantae2k18

Yeah, no need to worry. They'll make Shantae look amazing if she's playable

 

[Sudz]

Why are her eyes so far apart! And her pants are completely the wrong material! Personally, I'd be fine with any design that came after Pirate's Curse (except runbow). All of those design's proportions would fit in Smash.

That's why I said it's not perfect. Obviously I don't want a 1:1 of this, but it has the general vibe spot on

*look at how weird her hands are in that picture lmao. That's not the point!

 

[EarlTamm]

Yeah, no need to worry. They'll make Shantae look amazing if she's playable

You know, that can really be said about anything that comes into Sakurai's hands. We worry about how she could look or how she would play, but Sakurai is just gonna give us something we didn't even know we wanted and we will love it. At least, that's what I think is likely.

 

[Kuon]

You know, that can really be said about anything that comes into Sakurai's hands. We worry about how she could look or how she would play, but Sakurai is just gonna give us something we didn't even know we wanted and we will love it. At least, that's what I think is likely.

Yeah, there's no need to worry about how she looks or how she'll play. The only thing to worry about is if she'll be playable, since it's all but guaranteed that she'll be in the game in some form