Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Dyllybirdy]

Do it, Gordon.
please tell me you know where that line is from

I think it's from the film Session 9 but I'm not too sure.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Sorry, I'm still flowing through the 4chan trash, but I found a cool pic. Fake, but still cool:

That is so ****ing cool!~

 

[Red Dead Redeemed]

I think I've seen you ask a few times already, sorry you got overlooked lol.
It'll happen eventually..

Yeah, I'm worried I'm coming across as extremely annoying at this point lol.

 

[Veodok]

I think it's from the film Session 9 but I'm not too sure.

You got it bb! I love that movie.

 

[EarlTamm]

You know, I just remembered something I think you would all enjoy hearing. So around the time I was getting into Shantae(And possibly around the ballot), I had purchased Xenoblade Chronicles X. When I was greeted with making the player character, I had no idea what to make. Typically, I don't make a representation of me, rather a different character entirely, be it original or a reference to another character. Point is, I saw that the female peppy voice was voiced by Christina Vee, so I actually made the player character Shantae. I had also planned on making her Skell look kinda like some futuristic Tinker Tub, at least color wise. Never got that far in the game though, so that dream never came to be.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

You know, I just remembered something I think you would all enjoy hearing. So around the time I was getting into Shantae(And possibly around the ballot), I had purchased Xenoblade Chronicles X. When I was greeted with making the player character, I had no idea what to make. Typically, I don't make a representation of me, rather a different character entirely, be it original or a reference to another character. Point is, I saw that the female peppy voice was voiced by Christina Vee, so I actually made the player character Shantae. I had also planned on making her Skell look kinda like some futuristic Tinker Tub, at least color wise. Never got that far in the game though, so that dream never came to be.

I'd love to see screenshots of that lol.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Like, that's why I didn't mention Sans, cuz Undertale has no relation to Nintendo at all.

Actually, Undertale will get a release on the Switch.

 

[Teeb147]

Yeah, I'm worried I'm coming across as extremely annoying at this point lol.

Not at all. Should be able to join the list just like the others.
It's too bad it's not easier to make and join lists, but I guess we're still using a forum, it would be cool to program a list where it's easier. anyway.

I dont know where the influx of supporters came from, but maybe it's like that on directs, I dont know cuz I dont remember how it was in the past.

 

[EarlTamm]

I'd love to see screenshots of that lol.

Eh, I am not tech savvy enough to pull a screenshot, and I would be embarrassed to show off my crummy character making skills. I would be curious to see others try out this idea though. It's fun to visualize characters in different games, and I bet it would be a good excuse for many people to dust off there Wii U.

 

[FooltheFlames]

Actually, Undertale will get a release on the Switch.

HUH
where did you hear that from? Do you have a link?

 

[Booper Blooper]

HUH
where did you hear that from? Do you have a link?

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/undertale-switch

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

HUH
where did you hear that from? Do you have a link?

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/03/indie_smash_undertale_is_coming_to_switch_eventually
https://www.fangamer.com/products/undertale-game-switch-ps4-vita

 

[Red Dead Redeemed]

HUH
where did you hear that from? Do you have a link?

GameXplain Already has a bit of it on their channel.

 

[FooltheFlames]

Well shucks, I'm learning a lot today!

 

[AngrySun88]

Do not be surprised to see a boatload of fake leaks from now until when the Direct gets announced again. People will claim to know the full details of the Direct to give themselves credibility. Don't believe any of these leaks. These are people who are either trolling or who want attention.

 

[RidleyKraid187]

I think the thing that has me the most convinced of Shantae's inclusion is Daisy's picture in the panorama; I don't remember who brought it up, but the pose she's in is a very weird one to be in just on her own. Granted, it DOES look like it could be one of her taunts or Daisy Bomber, but her eyes specifically- she seems to be looking at somebody who isn't there yet, and of all the potential newcomers who it could be, Shantae fits the best. I could EASILY see her mirroring that same dance pose, especially with somebody like Daisy who already shares a similarly spunky personality. That, combined with all of the other suspicious activity, is what pushes it over for me.

I'm still going to be cautious and not get my hopes up TOO high, but It's definitely reassuring to have some kind of lead within the game's art on top of everything else.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Over on the Shantae Support Discord, we got a little picture that we've determined to be fake. Unless you want to get a look at it, I won't delve into it here because why would I.

 

[DOTBHDD]

I think the thing that has me the most convinced of Shantae's inclusion is Daisy's picture in the panorama; I don't remember who brought it up, but the pose she's in is a very weird one to be in just on her own. Granted, it DOES look like it could be one of her taunts or Daisy Bomber, but her eyes specifically- she seems to be looking at somebody who isn't there yet, and of all the potential newcomers who it could be, Shantae fits the best. I could EASILY see her mirroring that same dance pose, especially with somebody like Daisy who already shares a similarly spunky personality. That, combined with all of the other suspicious activity, is what pushes it over for me.

I'm still going to be cautious and not get my hopes up TOO high, but It's definitely reassuring to have some kind of lead within the game's art on top of everything else.

I feel like that too and that bugs me. I'm not a fan of reaching but... idk. It is a good point. Shantae and Daisy booty bumping makes a lot of since.

Who else would do it? Isaac? Skull Kid? I don't even think Bandana Dee has a booty. Banjo-Kazooie definitely aren't booty bumpers. Paper Mario has a flat ass. Maybe Dixie Kong but I think she'd be interacting with her boyfriend, Diddy Kong, in some way. Incineroar would burn her butt. Decidueye doesn't look friendly enough to booty bump the *****. Geno... would actually be really funny; but c'mon, he's not butt bumping material. Shadow is actually a high possibility for booty bumping with Daisy, since he's known to get down on the dance floor.

Shantae is the best possible booty bumper with Daisy.

Is this a reach? Why do I think this is actually the best evidence we have for Shantae?

Guys? I'm scared.

 

[FooltheFlames]

So... Undertale coming to switch doesn't worry any of you here at all then? I'll admit, Hat kid and Lilac were always going to be a far stretch, but isn't Sans like, super popular in Japan or something? Like I remember this:

Spoiler: Japan 'character poll' thingy

Although I have heard not to take this seriously as Sans is like Japan's Waluigi over there. So he's more like their meme character than anything. But Nintendo may not be so aware of that internet culture when it comes to Memeluigi or Sans lol

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Actually, wasn't Undertale something of a big hit over in Japan?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

So... Undertale coming to switch doesn't worry any of you here at all then? I'll admit, Hat kid and Lilac were always going to be a far stretch, but isn't Sans like, super popular in Japan or something? Like I remember this:

Spoiler: Japan 'character poll' thingy

Although I have heard not to take this seriously as Sans is like Japan's Waluigi over there. So he's more like their meme character than anything. But Nintendo may not be so aware of that internet culture when it comes to Memeluigi or Sans lol

Pretty certain that Undertale is pretty recent in popularity over there, compared to Waluigi, who is widely-known and established enough for Sakurai to make fun of him.

Spoiler

Also, Waluigi never was a proper boss, unlike Sans.

Besides, with the potential of more newcomers than expected, there can be room for the odd one out.

 

[RidleyKraid187]

I feel like that too and that bugs me. I'm not a fan of reaching but... idk. It is a good point. Shantae and Daisy booty bumping makes a lot of since.

Who else would do it. Isaac? Skull Kid? I don't even think Bandana Dee has a booty. Banjo-Kazooie definitely aren't booty bumpers. Paper Mario has a flat ***. Maybe Dixie Komg but I think she'd be interacting with her boyfriend, Diddy Kong, in some way. Incineroar would burn her butt. Decidueye doesn't look friendly enough to booty bump the *****. Geno... would actually be really funny; but c'mon, he's not butt bumping material. Shadow is actually a high possibility for booty bumping with Daisy, since he's known to get down on the dance floor.

Shantae is the best possible booty bumper with Daisy.

Is this a reach? Why do I think this is actually the besy evidence we have for Shantae?

The other possibility is that Daisy isn't dancing with anyone, but merely teasing someone, like Isaac or someoneidunno?

As for her other potential dance partners, the only other one I could see is Isabelle, but their heights are too different and I feel like Isabelle would be interacting with the Villager, if anyone.

It's also possible she's just looking at Simon, but realistically, I feel like they would've had her eyes centered more if she wasn't intended to be in a scenario with somebody. But they aren't. She looks like she's part of an unfinished scenario, and Shantae seems like the best fit for completing it.

 

[WingedSupernova]

Sans is a big hit, yeah, but the ballot was over before his game even released in North America. By the time it became huge, Sakurai had already developed the project plan for Ultimate and he looked to the ballot for which characters were going to be added. There is no way Sans is making it into this game unless it is DLC.

 

[AngrySun88]

I think Sans is more or less like a Waluigi meme type of character, and Shantae has far more history with Nintendo than Undertale does. Yet somehow that's the only reason I can think of as to why Shantae wouldn't get in - Sakurai would pick a character that not too many people want instead of her.

Also, I don't think he would have ranked high enough on the Ballot as the game wasn't in North America at the time of the Ballot.

 

[Red Dead Redeemed]

Sans is a big hit, yeah, but the ballot was over before his game even released in North America. By the time it became huge, Sakurai had already developed the project plan for Ultimate and he looked to the ballot for which characters were going to be added. There is no way Sans is making it into this game unless it is DLC.

Sans shouldn't even be in the game as a fighter if Undertale got any representation in Smash. People became so enamored with the coolness of his boss fight that they ignore its context of being a horrible event that is not typically in San's character to do but was forced into it by the extreme circumstances brought about by the Genocide run.

 

[FooltheFlames]

Well I don't care as much for Sans as I do for Hat Kid or Lilac. But I wouldn't throw a fit over him being in either. But I do think Shantae deserves her spot in this game more than these 3. She just feels more like an actual Nintendo character to me more than the others, given her history at all. I still remember reading about her Gameboy game way back when they still used to print Nintendo Power, she was always a cool cutie to me~

 

[RidleyKraid187]

Sans shouldn't even be in the game as a fighter if Undertale got any representation in Smash. People became so enamored with the coolness of his boss fight that they ignore its context of being a horrible event that is not typically in San's character to do but was forced into it by the extreme circumstance brought about by the Genocide run.

Sans (AND Papyrus?) should get in as a Resetti-style Assist Trophy. I think that's the best kind of representation for Undertale in Smash.

 

[Shark X]

Like, that's why I didn't mention Sans, cuz Undertale has no relation to Nintendo at all.

Neither did Cloud, and look what happened there.

 

[FooltheFlames]

Well Cloud was in that Kingdom Hearts GBA game: Chain of Memories. And he's been said to represent FF as a whole now, which started it's humble beginnings on the NES.
U see when i made that post i seriously didnt kno Undertale was coming to Switch lol ^^;

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I think it would be cool to see Undertale represented in the game in some shape or form. Whether it be through a trophy, assist trophy or maybe even a Snowdin stage. I don't see any Undertale characters becoming playable though, but I certainly wouldn't mind it.

 

[Shinuto]

So... Undertale coming to switch doesn't worry any of you here at all then? I'll admit, Hat kid and Lilac were always going to be a far stretch, but isn't Sans like, super popular in Japan or something? Like I remember this:

Spoiler: Japan 'character poll' thingy

Although I have heard not to take this seriously as Sans is like Japan's Waluigi over there. So he's more like their meme character than anything. But Nintendo may not be so aware of that internet culture when it comes to Memeluigi or Sans lol

No jesus, theres a thing called years under one's belt? Al of those other indies ar much too new to be a problem for Shantae and dont have a series behind them.

 

[GoodShepperd]

The other thing about Sans being in smash is that it kinda spoils a big part of Undertale. I mean I assume that doesn't really matter as far as choosing a character goes, but it would be kind of crummy for Sans to be basically be spoiled for everybody forever.

 

[Kuon]

What is the problem with having American video game characters appear in Smash? Technically, they already added some characters created by Westerners, Diddy Kong and King K. Rool were both created by the British and Dark Samus was created by the Americans, though these characters are now owned by Nintendo. There are still some assist/normal trophies including Shovel Knight, Bit Trip Runner and Rayman, who were created by the Americans and the French, which are not owned by Nintendo.

But I'm talking about playable characters from Western franchises. Sakurai has never done that before. Maybe it's because I'm an otaku, but I just don't really like that idea

Sorry, I'm just really confused on that one.

Part of me wants her in the game, because I love Shantae, but part of me doesn't because I'm an otaku and I personally don't like the idea of Sakurai putting Western franchises in the game as playable characters. Please don't kill me, I'm just stating my opinion. Does that make sense?

 

[Shadowknight1]

Part of me wants her in the game, because I love Shantae, but part of me doesn't because I'm an otaku and I personally don't like the idea of Sakurai putting Western franchises in the game as playable characters. Please don't kill me, I'm just stating my opinion. Does that make sense?

So...should K. Rool and Diddy be excised from the roster?

 

[Kuon]

To me that's a rather odd concern. If some american characters are good enough to be wanted by many fans and nintendo as well, I don't see the issue.
Also, why see games through lenses of origin? If a game is good, it's good. Shantae fits right in. Are you worried Skyrim or Halo would have a chance in smash?

I'm just an otaku who only likes Japanese games (for the most part, aside from a select few American games), and it just wouldn't feel like Smash Bros to me if characters from western franchises were made playable, since we've never had that before. But if Sakurai did that, I'd accept it.

So...should K. Rool and Diddy be excised from the roster?

No, because they don't represent a Western franchise. They're from Donkey Kong, which is Japanese, not Western. I'm talking about characters that represent American and Western games

 

[Dyllybirdy]

But I'm talking about playable characters from Western franchises. Sakurai has never done that before. Maybe it's because I'm an otaku, but I just don't really like that idea

I'd be fine with some Western characters making it in to the game, but I don't want the roster to be over saturated with characters like Dragonborn or Master Chief because that would just ruin the spirit of Smash for me. Characters like Rayman or Banjo I'm perfectly alright with though.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Question for Shantae fans. What would be her pose on the CSS?

 

[AngrySun88]

I don't want characters like Minecraft Steve or Master Chief in the game, but characters like Shantae and Banjo absolutely deserve to be in Smash due to their history with Nintendo and amazing moveset potential.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

The other thing about Sans being in smash is that it kinda spoils a big part of Undertale. I mean I assume that doesn't really matter as far as choosing a character goes, but it would be kind of crummy for Sans to be basically be spoiled for everybody forever.

Well, considering that Mother 3 is basically spoiled to hell and back in here, it's clear by now that this series is mostly aimed at long-time Nintendo fans, so it wouldn't be the first time this type of thing happened.

Besides, given that no money and no friends apparently makes Wario go crazy evil in Smash, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume Sans would be forced to defend himself in such unusual circumstances.

That aside, we have no idea what Sakurai's stance on amount of games an IP should have before getting a spot in Smash, so it's pure conjecture at this stage.

 

[Red Dead Redeemed]

I'm just an otaku who only likes Japanese games (for the most part, aside from a select few American games), and it just wouldn't feel like Smash Bros to me if characters from western franchises were made playable, since we've never had that before. But if Sakurai did that, I'd accept it.


No, because they don't represent a Western franchise. They're from Donkey Kong, which is Japanese, not Western. I'm talking about characters that represent American and Western games

Shantae is like the most anime looking western franchise though. I actually did believe it was Japanese for a while before actually looking into it.