Scum Wars Mafia - Game!

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Anyway, I just realized that we can't clear KevinM either. He could have been recruited N3 to get him to stop messing up their NK's.

Just a question, how could scum know that KEVIN was messing up their kills?


Besides, if there are 2 scum factions and a vig, wouldn't we be having more kills even with Kevin?

 

[Nicholas1024]

Didn't he claim that he was receiving two kills and letting one through? Scum would know if he let their kill through or not.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Was FF able to recruit Kevin? I thought he was lynched the day kevin claimed...
Before that he didn't know that it was Kevin, right?

Or am I confusing days? :ugh:

 

[Nicholas1024]

I thought we had KevinM pinned as the indy D2, didn't we? Although... the emperor died and then the recruiter got lynched the next day, so it would have had to have been a N3 or earlier recruit... Yeah, my head hurts considering the possibilities too.

 

[KevinM]

well theres 2 scum factions cuz the extra kill n1

also the "frozen cant recruit til he busses his godfather" theory makes sense to me meaning its just nick today. so itd be 2 scumbags and a recruiter which is fine coupled with another scumteam and the various power roles weve seen

your wagon has merit. youd be the ideal recruitment target hands down. dunno how there can even be an argument over this which is why you need to be lynched asap

plus quicklynches are sweet. town won in wonderland largely cuz they were active and interested and didnt take forever to do stuff i think

Marshy,

extra kill N1 would not be attributed to two mafia factions, also thinking Nich should die.

One mafia faction must be gone, only one kill was sent through to me this time.

 

[Nicholas1024]

This makes things interesting... if KevinM is telling the truth (which I have no reason to doubt ATM), then one of the two kills he was receiving must have been the Imperials, and the other one must have been from another anti-town source. (The disappearing kill had to have been from some source besides Gheb, because else KevinM could have blocked the other one to save Gheb's life.)

I don't know how I could have been so blind though. What is the most common 3rd party killing role? Bingo, it's the SK. Which would mean the kills we've been getting would make more sense, as (see Mafia sleepover), it is beneficial to the SK to get rid of the mafia so he can win in endgame.

Take Marshy's theory that FF couldn't recruit until after the Emperor was gone. Then, FF never would have gotten a chance to recruit, period, because he died the day phase after the Emperor. This would also explain the fact that KevinM only got one kill report last night, because the imperials no longer exist.

If one mafia faction is gone, wouldn't that mean that I couldn't have been recruited, as I would have been part of the now-gone imperial faction?

The thing is though... if I'm correct and the remaining threat is an SK... my investigations may well be useless, as I have no idea if they can detect indies or not. (If you guys let me live, then I'll investigate KevinM tonight and see what happens. Innocent means that we can't trust Macman/Chaco completely, Guilty means that we can.)

Now where on earth is Kirbyoshi? I really want to see him claim.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

That was my theory fool.

chaco, are you going to claim?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

oh snap

lol scum stomped out

vote scummyyoshi

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm all for letting Nick live to investigate Kevin in regards to seeing what happens, ATM. It would help us know if the clears are really clears.

Ok so there's no more imperial, that takes away a good deal of WIFOM. We don't know wether Nicks clears are correct IF we assume the SK is in here.
I still think 2 scum factions is an option as 1faction can still desire to kill the other, because they probably won't help with the win condition. Which would be easier at the moment as the clears remain clears.

 

[Chaco]

Sure. Greedo, Rebel Townie.

Flavor reasoning behind why I'm a rebel townie, but not sure if I can really present it.

 

[KevinM]

Wow super fast claim.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Alright, that's it. If Kirbyoshi has time for the joke vote phase on batmafia but not for serious endgame stuff here, he can go. Vote: Kirbyoshi

Claim or die.

Votecount please?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

he's also been posting in other games

 

[Nicholas1024]

He's stalling. Let's pile some votes on him until he appears, claims, and gives a good reason why we should lynch someone besides him.

 

[Tom]

"Yo dude ur dad is vader n junk shiiit thats messed up."

Vote Count (4/7 to lynch)
Kirbyoshi (2) Marshy, Nicholas1024

Not voting (5) Xonar, KevinM, Kirbyoshi, Chaco, Macman

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Vote: Kirbyoshi

L-1

 

[#HBC | Mac]

eh, not comfortable with him at L-1

please unvote

 

[#HBC | marshy]

unv ote

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I really want this game to progress at the moment though.

Macman, what do you think we should do then if he doesn't show up in, say, a few days?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

lynch him

 

[KevinM]

Why do we have to wait.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Oh. Snap. I'm in like 5 games here, 3 on MS, and my school schedule has been more busy than I thought it would be.

So, looks like people want me to claim...

I'm Obi-Wan. I'd like to keep my role private for now, if it's all the same to town.

 

[Chaco]

Yeah, we could've deduced that. Full claim, please.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

no. claim your role now.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

My role is useless if I claim it.

I'm "the Obi-Wan from the original trilogy" if that gives you a hint as to my role. Not gonna straight out say it though, see first sentence.

Vote: KevinM

Since the Imperials are gone, we have no reason to keep him alive, am I right? Saves alot of WIFOM for toMorrow, no?

 

[Chaco]

The game would not continue if there were no more imperials, I believe.

I think you were recruited. Vote: Kirbyoshi

 

[#HBC | Mac]

unvote chaco.

kirbyoshi. if yur a treestump ignore this post but post again

if yur not say that you aren't.

we'll decide if we want you to stump yourself

 

[Chaco]

unvote

alright for now.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

cla im

 

[Nicholas1024]

cla im

This. For crying out loud, claim already.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Mac, Kevin should go. There's no reason to keep him alive, since one of the scum factions is already gone. At this point, he's a liability.

 

[Nicholas1024]

This is getting ridiculous. At this point I'm nearly willing to lynch you and call it a day. CLAIM for crying out loud! Or die. Your choice.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Kirby, the problem with lynching Kevin is that we don't know how much scum there is. I think we need to lynch some of the other scum party right now, except if people really want to lynch KevinM.

@Chaco, you accuse Kirbyoshi of being recruited.

Take Marshy's theory that FF couldn't recruit until after the Emperor was gone. Then, FF never would have gotten a chance to recruit, period, because he died the day phase after the Emperor. This would also explain the fact that KevinM only got one kill report last night, because the imperials no longer exist.

What do you think of this theory? Probable?

Kirby if you're no stump say it in your next post. That's all we really need to know right now. If it's something else, ignore this paragraph. Macman asked this, but I'm gonna do it again. We need to be clear here, Kirby.

I'm gonna flavor hunt some star wars right now. I'll post back if I found something useful.

 

[Steel]

“You’ve never heard of the Millennium Falcon? … It’s the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.”

 

[#HBC | Mac]

So I guess KirbYoshi is claiming tree stump. Do we want him to stump himself? I don't feel like doing numbers right now, but i'd like to hear from other people first.

 

[Nicholas1024]

We'd lose a mislynch, but considering that lynching Kirbyoshi would be today's course anyway, I'd like to see him "stump" himself.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

“You’ve never heard of the Millennium Falcon? … It’s the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.”

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel_Run
ctrl+f 'misinformation'
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Han_Solo
Han Solo isn't claimed yet.
Anyways, I dunno if we should take it too serious.

On the stump thing... Iunno. I think we shouldn't lose a voter for kill immunity, especially if SK/Mafia knows it already. What are the profits for Town besides being unkillable? Do they weigh up against losing a voter?

 

[Nicholas1024]

We know he's town instead of SK and don't waste a mislynch. (So, effectively we gain a no-lynch... which will let me get an investigation of KevinM in.)

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Pretty sure stumping himself won't end the day. I'm also pretty sure he'd be completely dead except for the fact that he can post in the thread.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I do agree with not lynching KevinM because of getting the clears also, it would make everything a lot easier, and I'm willing to take the risk.

I do not agree on effectively getting a no-lynch. One of Towns advantages over the Mafia is numbers, but I do see your point. IF we don't go with Kirbyoshi, who would you go for?