Scum Wars Mafia - Game!

[Nicholas1024]

You still haven't answered why you chose FF over me. What does me not having played the best game ever have to do with anything? Was FF playing better? I'm not sure I understand your point there.

I know 2 of them were vigged, but I was still pushing their lynches during the day. My point still stands.

You aren't directly answering the question

I choose FF... mainly because I wanted to take care of the FF-super-lurker-lynch-immediately topic once and for all, and secondly because I was still kinda paranoid about the idea of a framer/lawyer.

I mean as in looking-townie wise. I was second-guessing myself slightly on seeing how you had pushed mafia cases, and I just wanted to put the whole thing to rest.

The only question which I didn't directly answer was the one quoted above.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

well theres 2 scum factions cuz the extra kill n1

also the "frozen cant recruit til he busses his godfather" theory makes sense to me meaning its just nick today. so itd be 2 scumbags and a recruiter which is fine coupled with another scumteam and the various power roles weve seen

your wagon has merit. youd be the ideal recruitment target hands down. dunno how there can even be an argument over this which is why you need to be lynched asap

plus quicklynches are sweet. town won in wonderland largely cuz they were active and interested and didnt take forever to do stuff i think

 

[#HBC | Mac]

2 scum teams though?
One team with 3 scum plus a recruiter after someone dies?
One indy
plus another team

thats kind of a lot of scum. And if there are atleast 2 people left in this second team then we lost even if we lynch Nick and he was recruited.

unless kevin is part of the second scum team.

eh, i do think a mass claim would be a good idea

 

[Nicholas1024]

The only times they mislynched in wonderland was when the quick-lynched. True, they weren't waiting until deadline on everything, but both QL's were dead wrong.

Not to mention, fine, the Imperials are one scum group, but what about the other one? 2 scum + a recruiter = effectively 4 scum one one side, which means that the other side has to have another 3-4 scum to be even. 7-8 scum in the game is totally ridiculous, Marshy. In fact, the other scum side would be able to win right now with the help of the indy.

If there are 2 scum factions because of an extra N1 kill, why wouldn't there be an extra kill during the rest of these nights? It would imply that Gheb was one shot and shot N1, which is another stupid idea.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

the other scumteam doesnt have to have those numbers to be even. it depends on perks plus kevin plays into the balance

gheb just didnt shoot the other nights. hed have filpped 1-shot vig if that was his role

 

[#HBC | marshy]

unvot e

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I doubt gheb would ever just not shoot. He's the one who loves vigs and death and crap. I have to agree with nick that there's probably only one scum team. And one scum left.

I'm for a massclaim

 

[Nicholas1024]

the other scumteam doesnt have to have those numbers to be even. it depends on perks plus kevin plays into the balance

gheb just didnt shoot the other nights. hed have filpped 1-shot vig if that was his role

Do you really think a 2-man scumteam (regardless of roles) against a 4-man scumteam (with some nice roles) is anywhere close to balanced? I sure don't.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Do you really think a 2-man scumteam (regardless of roles) against a 4-man scumteam (with some nice roles) is anywhere close to balanced?

yes

how do you explain the 2nd nightkill on n1 if theres no second scumteam?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

or are you saying kevin is just lying about the whole thing?

I doubt gheb would ever just not shoot. He's the one who loves vigs and death and crap. I have to agree with nick that there's probably only one scum team. And one scum left.

then why didnt he shoot the other nights?

theres a second scumteam guys

 

[Nicholas1024]

yes

how do you explain the 2nd nightkill on n1 if theres no second scumteam?

I expect a one-shot killing power, which wasn't Gheb (as else he'd have flipped one-shot).

 

[#HBC | marshy]

a vig AND a 1-shot? doesnt make sense

 

[Nicholas1024]

*shrug* No idea. Maybe it's something like in FFVII mafia, which had a 1-shot SK variant.

Anyway, I just realized that we can't clear KevinM either. He could have been recruited N3 to get him to stop messing up their NK's.

 

[Chaco]

I'm saying Vig and MafKill were intercepted by Kevin. Presuming that's true.

I'm thinking about Mac, still uneasy. Although seriously doubting Marsh is scum.

Nick is clear for sure.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Sorry for not posting, this game fell out of my 'find more posts by this user' thingy, will read now.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Out of still alive players, Xonar has less posts than everyone but the Kirbyoshi-Xivii tandem. Check the post counts.

Nick I replaced Crimson King who had been lurking all the time which is why I don't have that many posts.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Nick I replaced Crimson King who had been lurking all the time which is why I don't have that many posts.

Ah, I'd forgotten. Sorry bout that then.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Unvote:

Need to look over today and yesterday.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

blah bitty blah
unvote

everyone has to say whether they agree with a massclaim

 

[Chaco]

I supp ort it.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

disagree

if im overruled i think macman should pick the order

 

[Chaco]

Why do you disagree and on what basis?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i disagree cuz i doubt itll help and macmans my strongest town read

 

[#HBC | marshy]

plus ive figured out macmans and kirbyos roles

why are you for it?

 

[Chaco]

Yeah. Figured that was coming.

Mac, go ahead and get it over with. We know Marshy will be overturned.

Moneys on Xiivi having been recruited, since Meta Kirby ever so "skillfully' outed him.

Wouldn't oppose a Xiivi lynch: In fact, Kirbyoshi claim now and no one else.

 

[Chaco]

Heh, eh, eh. Well, good we're on the same page then. I'm for it because I want to hear what Kirbyoshi claims. See how that goes with the past "flow" of things. As well as, I'd be willing to bet he was recruited.

 

[Chaco]

I do see where you are coming from Marshy though about Nick.

and afaik doc will never prevent recruitment.

 

[Chaco]

Dunno why that was even thrown out there.

Also, my why to Xiivi being recruited. He was more of a threat at that time than Nick would've been.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I've claimed already, so I don't know. I wouldn't mind, but I don't really want to go around wasting all our ammo.

I agree on the double scumteam idea right now, even though I'm doubting wether it's balanced at all, but that's not the issue right now.
I don't know about Mac picking the other, even though he's probably most clear right now out of everyone in my eyes. So yeah, I'd guess he'd be the logical person to do so.

So we can assume there's 1 imperial, 1 indy and X otherscum left, right? Questionable stuff looking at the kills right now.

So many possible recruit targets right now. Thinking Kirbyoshi atm.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

So many posts while typing D: ninja'd by chaco.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

if i had to pick, my order wud be chaco -> kirbyo -> marshy

 

[Chaco]

Go into detail Mac, why me?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

cuz i think marshy is town. And i know what xiivi was breadcrumbing.

and all yuve done all game was hate on me

 

[Chaco]

So an OMGUS? Yeah, about sums it up.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I support a kirbyoshi claim. Xivii/Kirbyoshi have done almost nothing all game. Unless a good reason comes up that I should vote otherwise, I'd support his lynch.

 

[Chaco]

Also, you think Marshy is town...but put him before people who could've been recruited? Eh?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

what? why would i ask people who've already claimed to roleclaim again...? how does tht make sense?

 

[Chaco]

Oh, thought you meant order of killing. My bad.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Where are you Kirbyoshi? Your page says that you were on last night, why haven't you claimed? Or at least posted with an opinion?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Go rebels!