Scum Wars Mafia - Game!

[Nicholas1024]

Objection, Macman. No less then 4 people voted Ronike when I revealed my cop result, and several voted (or said they were down for, like KevinM) Frozen and Gheb as well. My point is, you were never against the crowd. You're not afraid to go against the grain as town. For example, in Spidey mafia, you said you were suspicious of Kirby King, even though nobody else was. (And as it turned out, you were right. )

As for who's made cases today... it depends on what you'd call a case. My definition is "An attempt to get somebody lynched by giving reasoning and voting said person." By that definition, nearly everyone's made a case on someone.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Unvote.

While I do think Mac's contributions haven't been that apparent, Chaco's case is kinda void, but I think there might still be something to it, waiting for a response to 716.

Only thing that's bothering me was Gheb trying to misdirect from the Macman's lynch, trying to make him look a bit more towny. Just looked like a partner saving efford.

Macman your posts before the case has been mixed, variating from totallyuseless+1postcount to wellhegotapointthereiguess. Now I just gotta ask, WHY are you posting so much fluff? I know it's null, still wondering why, especially after seeing how much better you can do.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

nick, can you show me the case chaco made on me.

like I said, noone was suspicious of FF. Or Gheb for that matter until I brought both of them up. People stopped being suspect of ronike after everyone said **** about how we shouldn't follow the cop. Where as I continued to express my suspicion of him. Do you not consider being suspect of Frozen and Gheb "going against the grain"?

I know townchaco isn't this dense. Atleast in TNM he had the intelligence to know when he was clearly wrong.

My stongest concern is that you are vig and just being incredibly dumb.

 

[Nicholas1024]

For crying out loud macman, every post of his in the past 5 pages has been building a case against you.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Macman your posts before the case has been mixed, variating from totallyuseless+1postcount to wellhegotapointthereiguess. Now I just gotta ask, WHY are you posting so much fluff? I know it's null, still wondering why, especially after seeing how much better you can do.

i don't get this. i've been playing the same as always.

I post fluff cuz I want to. It's always been that way. What kind of question is this? Also, asking questions is not fluff. Commenting on game related stuff is not fluff. Nor are they useless, which is what people are trying to get at.

I don't understand how people can really say that I've been posting less content then most other people today.

Nick summarize chaco's case for me.

 

[Chaco]

I know townchaco isn't this dense. Atleast in TNM he had the intelligence to know when he was clearly wrong.

I know what you're doing, I figured you were above this. Eh, live and learn. You're still dying.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

No you haven't.

Your post actually contain something right now. Remember that I don't really play mafias on here. All the games I've seen you in was just you posting 1liners or 2liners.
Besides, I never said your questions/comments were useless anyway, I was just after your motivation. Obviously I'm not satisfied with 'cuz i want to' but I don't really think there's much more too it.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Chaco, gtfo of here with this high and mighty crap.

Oh xonar, did you mean I am doing much better now, than before? I read it as I was doing better in other games as opposed to this one.

"Macman your posts before the case has been mixed, variating from totallyuseless+1postcount to wellhegotapointthereiguess."
Though that useless comment wasn't only directed at you, at people in general who say this.

 

[Chaco]

Chaco, gtfo of here with this high and mighty crap.

Just doing to you what you're trying to do to me.

Just die already and save me the trouble.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Observe:

yes!

guys im getting a scummy vibe from chaco, and it honestly was before i even read his post about being suspect of me

i'll probably hammer anyone

Sarcasmy OMGUS + not caring who gets lynched.

funny you ask me to explain why, when in your post you give absolutely no reasoning for why im suspect to you.

i'll hammer any of the options cuz i keep changing my mind on who i think is scum and im getting tired of it so ill jsut do w/e today and take a stab at it tomorrow.

and omg, macman has such an amazing new strat! He- guess what- tries to act like he's town as scum! omg so broken!

not at all worried about getting lynched, ever.

More sarcasm, + you claim you're not worried of getting lynched... rather then defending yourself, you're mocking your wagoners.

lol bandwagon ninja. It's more than obvious when I am scum, its not my fault yall can't figure it out so you decide to grasp for straws in games where i'm obv town in.

As I said before, you are not a Jedi. Hand-waves will not work here.

So, it's these posts. All of them scream SCUM! Add that to the fact that you weren't exactly a model townie beforehand, and there's your case.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Chaco never made that case nick. That was all you.

I wasn't being sarcastic nick, nor was that OMGUS.

I already explained that i've been changing my mind about who I thought was scum, and I wanted to just see a flip now and work harder tomorrow.

I'm not gonna get lynched. Put me at L-1 and you'll see why. Nick, you also realize that I was being wagoned off of nothing at that point. All chaco said was, 'I'm getting a scummy vibe from macman'. So there was NOTHING to defend against. [which I even state in that very post]. And yes, I was mocking the people who wagoned me because they were being dumb by wagoning for no reason.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Correct, there wasn't anything for you to defend against at that point, it was those posts I just quoted that caused you to get wagoned. See below (emphasis added)

Perfectly fine with a Macman lynch now, he reacted extremely poorly. I will still be doing the system when I get home to lock it in however.

But Mac, "not at all worried about getting lynched, ever" is a scum saying. There's no shade of grey about it. I've used it, and seen many others use it. But only as scum.

Vote: Macman

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Will putting you at L-1 have any negative side effects for town that we're unaware of? (read: wasting a night etc)

 

[Nicholas1024]

Oh, btw, I meant that the OMGUS was the sarcasm.

 

[Chaco]

Putting you at L-1 won't lynch you, you're right. But hammering you will, if it doesn't. I kill you tonight. Sound good?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

wasting a lynch* lol sorries.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Will putting you at L-1 have any negative side effects for town that we're unaware of? (read: wasting a night etc)

clearly does or else I'd be encouraging it. Tho I wouldn't say the side effect is THAT bad. it just seems like a cop out and I haven't done anything worth lynching. So it shouldn't have to come to that.

chaco, you are breadcrumbing vig. You aren't this stupid. Even if I were mafia. I could just kill/roleblock[assuming mafia has a roleblocker] you tonight to avoid my death. You know this, there is clearly some ulterior motive in play here.

nick, those were the reasons why you voted me? Do you still find me scummy because of them? also would like to note that that still wasn't a chaco case, and you said that he made a good case against me.

 

[Chaco]

You're right, I do know this.

 

[Chaco]

I'll admit, to my fault, that I have tunneled on you. But only because you continued to do the same thing over and over. After a while it started to irritate me, as I'm sure I did you.

Anyways, my initial read stands, and as does my vote.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i see this game is still in day. why hasnt cacti been dealt with yet?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

fos gheb btw

 

[Steel]

Frozenflame751 and Cacti have been prodded.

 

[KevinM]

Wait did Chaco claim Vig or am I just seeing things?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Wait did Chaco claim Vig or am I just seeing things?

Looks like a fakeclaim to me, especially considering the circumstances.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

fos gheb btw

Elaborate

 

[Chaco]

It was obviously just a fake claim messing with him.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Frozenflame751 and Cacti have been prodded.

Vote count please.

Anyway, as deadline's approaching fast, I'll be happy with a Macman or a Cacti lynch today.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Problem with Macman lynch is that it's based on the case made from Chaco who avoided any attempt by Macman asking to post SUBSTANCE instead of just referring to things.

 

[Nicholas1024]

nick, those were the reasons why you voted me? Do you still find me scummy because of them? also would like to note that that still wasn't a chaco case, and you said that he made a good case against me.

Yes and yes. That was the basis of Chaco's case anyway, as the next 3-4 pages was him v.s. you arguing on how scummy/not scummy you've been because of those and previous posts. Ronike and Gheb stated those points first, but I've been calling it Chaco's case, since he was the one to put you in the spotlight, and pushed it the hardest.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Tbh I don't think a replacement will be able to make up for that hole Cacti has left. Can we just lynch him while we have the chance to? At least Macman can be argued with and Chaco has started to play now too. I'd rather lynch Cacti, Scumfever or Frozen over him at this point. I don't want to deal with that inactivity bullcrap later on anymore.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I'd really rather not see cacti live to endgame just because he claimed a town role like he does every game. He isn't doing anything. When was the last time he posted?

I have a town read on macman, even with all his fluff.

 

[Steel]

"Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."

19th Vote Count

Cacti (5) - KevinM, frozenflame751, Scumfever, Marshy, Gheb_01

Macman (3) - Ronike, Chaco, Nicholas1024

Scumfever (1) - Cacti

Chaco (1) - Macman

Meta-Kirby (1) - Xiivi

Not Voting: (2) - Meta-Kirby, Xonar

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[Chaco]

Problem with Macman lynch is that it's based on the case made from Chaco who avoided any attempt by Macman asking to post SUBSTANCE instead of just referring to things.

Do you even have the slightest idea if what your talking about?

Mac kept asking me things I had already answered. Before he asked about inactives, Gheb asked me about FF, one of the main inactives. Cacti had been previously covered, Jungle was V/La. Mac was saying everything on him was null because he does it both as town and scum. Which is the ****tiest argument ever! How can you even buy that?

It's pitiful in other games when people don't even suspect Mac because he's "just Macman".

I'll drop the Mac stuff....for today...but he BETTER not live until endgame.

Unvote; Vote; Cacti

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Well obviously if you've already answered them and Mac is still asking for it, you haven't told enough, don't you agree?

Anyways, I'll be down with Cacti, anyone minds if I hammer?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Eh gotta sleep now, someone else can do it.

 

[Chaco]

Well obviously if you've already answered them and Mac is still asking for it, you haven't told enough, don't you agree?

Anyways, I'll be down with Cacti, anyone minds if I hammer?

No, that would be laziness. The information was there.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

you can't be serious.

Chaco in a nutshell: Make a statement and then provide no reasoning or evidence to back it up and ignore obvious superior reasoning because he wants to give off the vibe that he knows what he's talking about.

You need to SHOW me how I've been noncomittal.
You have to EXPLAIN how fluff posting is not a null-tell.
You need to EXPLAIN how everything I've been saying does not equate to a defense.

you say a defense would be explaining my actions. this is quite hilarious cuz yu've never even pointed out ANYTHING i've done that was scummy. I can only explain/defend against the crap you say.

yu didnt answer any of this^

vote: cacti

i think i kno why yur so bitter chaco.

if i were the vig, id shoot ronike over junglefever.
i think its more important to deal with cop **** then just inactivity/lurkiness. And im sure SF can be bullied into posting.

but w/e shooting one of them would be good.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I said I'd be happy with a Cacti lynch, and as deadline is almost here, it's hammer time.

Unvote

Vote: Cacti

Hammah!

 

[Nicholas1024]

Macman ninja!

 

[Chaco]

Okay, just sayin' but you're pretty much asking me to hold your hand why you pee.