Should falcons be thinking of ways to counter his opponents traps? or moreso should he be always looking for ways to go back to a neutral standing between the two chars?
I ask this cause I see a lot of spots (on platform levels) where my opponent knocks me upwards at mid%s and then waits under the side platforms for me to dair, hoping he jumps into it. He then can come up with a quick bair(spacies) or nair (sheiks) to knock me off the stage for the easy kill.
I know I can always fall back to the ledge or doublejump/airdodge for the top platform to find a way to get back to ground level safely, but I always fancy the idea of doing something more.
A few times, Ive tried countering that trap by FFing to the side platform he wants me to and immediately sheilding, waiting for the whiffed bair/nair and the bad spacing that follows, and then coming back with an uair or fair of my own. And itll work sometimes. Im just not sure if thats a trend I should be getting myself into for oos tournaments, and if I should always play the safe route.
Does his % come into play? maybe its worth it if he's over 80 and I can assuredly get him off the stage, thus, making the risk somewhat worthwhile.
ledgecancelling attacks seems alil more risky cause they always seem to attack right in between my two moves. . . . maybe im not doing them crisply enough. . . .
I should also say that I obv wouldnt do this all the time. maybe like 20/25-80/75% of the time I would go for this.
Also, I approve of the disgust for falcos. Would love to get the MU down pat . . . . Too bad my region is 50% falco or falco "alting" (dumb word). So I have to deal =p
-good counter > neutral position unless you are better, but if better, you should win. neutral position >>>>>>>>> failed counter that makes you get ***** and not alive
-almost every player in this game except for pusays pretty much always want to attack even in defensive spots. every falcon main in their climb to glory pretty much always attacked in recovery and its pretty bad, especially if opponents are playing reactive
youtube face palm moments are when instead of safely double jump grabbing the edge, a falcon decides to double jump knee, miss horribly, then get ***** as they up-b the edge. then they repeat over and over--> i want to put a bullet in my brain
-ur fastfall onto platform quick trick is quite good actually but there is a tiny window where they can hit you as you go onto the platform itself. BUT if you condition them to expect the d-air and they counter attack after its good
your downfall though is people who have decent reaction time and instead of opting for an aerial attack will do some trick like after jumping falling back through the platform, simply wavelanding onto plat --> (shine)grab, etc. They can also hit your shield in a manner where you can't punish them before they shine. i'm sure you get the point. I think i do this sometimes also but vs competent foxes like lovage/ s.wolf i'll find a way to reset, sihelding on a side plat is still a bad spot to be in, you want to reset from bad positions. Fox is extremely difficult to counterattack from shield position (they have to mess up but because fox is an unwieldy character, happens quite often even among good foxes)
you have to gauge whether your opponent messed up 'enough' for you to punish. to be honest, just getting onto the stage safely by double jumping quickly onto the plat is already a win since you are not off stage and dead
so,
-'tricks' only get you so far, the situation you describe is reliant on the spacey making a slight mistake but it can turn out in your favor
-this ties into knowing your opponents potential and adjusting, make your life easier and do noob-pwning tactics against noobs
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a year ago, i believed that if I played like silentspectre, played kooky in unorthodox spots and outsped people and edge canceled everything i'd gain a serious edge and **** every opponent
but it simply won't work on good opponents and months of getting ***** pretty much taught me that in socal, no matter how crisp your edgecancel is if ur in a bad spot relative to your opponent and they aren't a n00b you are in an unsafe spot
valuable imo as a spacing tool though
and practicing stuff like edgecanceling makes you quicker. up-b edge cancel recovery turns falcon into a mid-tier recovery character
above all though, improve your fundamentals. relying on tricks to get you wins makes you a gimmick player and you will hit a wall quick. directed to everybody, there is ALWAYS something you can improve on no matter what, besides obvious errors there are a million tiny things you can do better that add up and make the difference between a close loss and a close win
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never attacking unless you are sure it will hit isn't optimal, sometimes you have to go with your read/prediction/ hope for the best
go watch me vs armada at genesis 2 where I was scared ****less, never grabbed and played like a fuken chump
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also falco is ghey as hell. me and hax had a talk and we both agreed even if the falco is worse than us, we always have the closest sets in the world
but we always barely win in the end