Nakamaru
Smash Master
Just leave him alone Reneblade. Pocky is just a bored little troll.
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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
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TheManaLord
Smash Hero
go pockyD!!!
trolls must stick together
jk I don't troll.
trolls must stick together
jk I don't troll.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
jetfour
Smash Journeyman
shield stab aerial falcon kick is pretty dope
Nakamaru
Smash Master
It'll actually increase the number of times you get grabbed by 200.
Nakamaru
Smash Master
Well its a good thing i based it off of Japanese then. ^.^ It was just made up cause i needed a name. I think it means shadowman or something.
DippnDots
Feral Youth
i think it means bad *** man who had reddish-pink hair the first time i saw him. Falcon question, if captain falcon ever dies, do you think he'd falcon punch or raptor boost -> knee on any ghost hunter panzees who tried to disturb his slumber?
I mean, when you to bair -> knee people, do you have to hit them with the end of the hitbox closer to falcons body? I wish i had a picture to help explain this, but it always seems like i can never bair -> knee if i hit them with the end of his fist unless they really flub their DI. Is he secretly hitting them with his abs or something?
I mean, when you to bair -> knee people, do you have to hit them with the end of the hitbox closer to falcons body? I wish i had a picture to help explain this, but it always seems like i can never bair -> knee if i hit them with the end of his fist unless they really flub their DI. Is he secretly hitting them with his abs or something?
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Guest
bair to knee is a myth and only works if opponent screws up DI big time
reverse bair to knee though is a different story, most people will survival DI that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxuy4wz178#t=5m21s
I believe in a spacey stomp situation at 60-80~ percent, i think its the best, if not the best option if you reverse b-air them since if they DI away they get owned and if they survival DI you can combo into knee which is pretty much guaranteed kill
up-air sux if they anti survival DI and you let them get away,
knee/reverse knee is pretty good but people are better at telling which way its gunna go now and survival DI accordingly
Reverse b-air is tricky though to learn i kinda suck at it but its worth your investment
Nakamaru
Smash Master
Boy im ****** you in tournament next time i see you. :O
Divinokage
Smash Legend
What Bair to knee definitely works.. I mean its either the guy gets ****ed up off stage or a knee lands.. Well it really depends on the characters I suppose. I'm used to Falcon/Ganon and Falcon Dittos so it definitely works.
iamthemicrowave
Smash Master
yeah i love bair to knee, and its easy if they survival DI the bair, which happens more often than not
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Deleted member
Guest
mainly situational based on stage positioning.. but the group of people i play with will anti combo DI the back-air if it isn't reversed
anyways, people should start reverse b-airing i think its the new reverse knee in terms of ******
anyways, people should start reverse b-airing i think its the new reverse knee in terms of ******
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
pocky is my favorite troll thats why i feed him.
s2j stop asking us to do hard stuff, make it easier for us.
s2j stop asking us to do hard stuff, make it easier for us.
jetfour
Smash Journeyman
Why doesn't Europe have amazing Falcons? Seriously. PAL gentlemans are sooooo much easier. Of course they'd suck at it when coming to America, but still... why don't we have many amazing Falcon vids to watch from over there?
cause gentlemanning is perfectly doable over here and it's not the reason why Falcon is limited? I don't think they find him as hilarious over there either, so that probably reduces his overall popularity from god tier to mid tier.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
they don't have what it takes to produce amazing falcons.
we're america.
we're america.
Ballistics
Smash Champion
ManaLord come to FL and we'll cross into the land of infinite dimensions on psychotropic substances
ryankam10
Smash Journeyman
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Jeapie's not bad
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
I may be traveling this summer. Florida is one of my travel spots, chances are I'll around Melbourne or Orlando
jetfour
Smash Journeyman
Well spacies are nerfed, Sheik can't downthrow gey Falcon all match. His competition is worse. It seems plausible for him to do much better at their tournaments.
The spacey nerfs seem less relevant vs. Falcon than most and I'd imagine Sheik could still be relatively effective with dthrow since it's all tech chasing vs. Falcon anyway. Besides, the real issue with Falcon seems to be a lack of good moves that come out quickly and that one hasn't been fixed.
tl;dr, he's probably relatively better due to other character nerfs, but it doesn't fix what's really wrong with the Sheik, Fox, Falco, and Jiggs matchups.
I'm more surprised that Jiggs isn't dominant over there. All the top tier nerfs seem hugely relevant in her matchups and she's unchanged iirc.
tl;dr, he's probably relatively better due to other character nerfs, but it doesn't fix what's really wrong with the Sheik, Fox, Falco, and Jiggs matchups.
I'm more surprised that Jiggs isn't dominant over there. All the top tier nerfs seem hugely relevant in her matchups and she's unchanged iirc.
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Guest
there is nothing wrong with any falcon matchup (except perfect shieks, luckily none exist where i live). While Falcon has roughly 0 good matchups, they are still bearable.
all you need to do is be better than your opponent. Pure outplaying and nothing else (or very lucky tech reads). To succeed with falcon u need to improve your gameplay in every way possible to stand a chance or you will sit at 15th place out of 27 at every tourney
people should also use up-b like mango while techchasing on platforms. all too often people will miss their aerial tech chase and the enemy will get away safely by blocking with their shield unless you up-b and get 16%
all you need to do is be better than your opponent. Pure outplaying and nothing else (or very lucky tech reads). To succeed with falcon u need to improve your gameplay in every way possible to stand a chance or you will sit at 15th place out of 27 at every tourney
people should also use up-b like mango while techchasing on platforms. all too often people will miss their aerial tech chase and the enemy will get away safely by blocking with their shield unless you up-b and get 16%
getting 15th takes gratuitous amounts of skill and/or luck in this Double Elimination Bracket ruled World in which we live in where 17th and 13th place are common fixtures, and everything in between is practically extinct.
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Guest
yea
or you can become a top tier falcon and get top 5 consistently even without a lucky bracket
edit: yea 15th may not exist but do i really give a ****
or you can become a top tier falcon and get top 5 consistently even without a lucky bracket
edit: yea 15th may not exist but do i really give a ****
jetfour
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, spacies aren't much worse but I think the Sheik dthrow would be significantly less effective with tech chasing since they get knocked so far away.
We need some European input on that.
UpB platform techchasing is decent at 80%ish, pretty good at 120% where it sets up an easy edgeguard.
We need some European input on that.
UpB platform techchasing is decent at 80%ish, pretty good at 120% where it sets up an easy edgeguard.
holy crap i was just randomly playing against the computer on corneria nd i was falcon and i got trapped underneath the ship where the shooters are and i just started stomping on it and then the shooters blew up and i fell threw and now the shooters dont work for the remainder of the match. did anyone else know about this?????!!!
no i think you should go make a new thread about this, it seems really useful
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Guest
i think after 40 percent its great since an aerial on a shield which 95% of players will do is 0 % while up-b is 16% and after 40 they are knocked away enough
too dangerous to use though constantly unless u know you will hit them
too dangerous to use though constantly unless u know you will hit them
Ryzol_
Smash Apprentice
You can waveland onto the platform and grab them.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
that sucks compared to up b
up b has a large psychological impact as well.
up b has a large psychological impact as well.
Firoki
Smash Rookie
Alright, so i'm at HERB 3 for my 1st tourney and having no space animal experience, the SHFFL'd aerial to shine shield pressure is killing me. My natural instinct is to grab when they land after shielding the aerial, but I always eat a shine.
What can I do to prevent this?
What can I do to prevent this?
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
grab after the shine
expect the shine
expect the shine
Firoki
Smash Rookie
Thanks, I don't know why I was having a mental block with that, it seems so obvious now.....
jetfour
Smash Journeyman
If they waveshine a lot then stomp out of shield ***** them hard. If they're smart and spam aerials and get behind you to spam more aerials and uptilt... you're ****ed. You have to roll, and better players will expect that and punish. It's best to just not shield and dodge attacks instead.
`DNS`
Smash Lord
so before i was playing as falcon vs fox on YS
i stomped him on the left platform and he hard DI'd it to the right
he went up pretty high, i wavelanded onto the middle platform and ran off for a dropzone knee
**** was SO cash
i stomped him on the left platform and he hard DI'd it to the right
he went up pretty high, i wavelanded onto the middle platform and ran off for a dropzone knee
**** was SO cash