Scar on the Melee vs Brawl debate: What does competitive really mean?

[SamuraiPanda]

Go is awesome. I should totally bring my Go board from my house and teach people how to play.

 

[thumbswayup]

I've never heard of Go. I used to play Chess all the time.

 

[LavisFiend]

Go is like if Chess and Othello had a baby together. =P

 

[thumbswayup]

That sounds awesome I love Othello.

HOLY **** is that the game John Nash was playing in A Beautiful Mind!??!

 

[Cloak and Dagger]

smashboards error

 

[Cloak and Dagger]

Read a little about it, go is an awseome game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game)

 

[-Linko-]

Read a little about it, go is an awseome game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game)

Don't doublepost, and learn to link.

Also, I liked better the Poker-Chess comparison. Chess is only skill, but in Poker there is some luck involved. (Tripping, anyone? I got my first true death from tripping yesterday. It sucks. But just before that, my opponent also lost a stock because he tripped... lol, it really balanced itself!)

 

[-Wolfy-]

I'm pretty sure no one cares as much about a double post when you get paged.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

I have it set to max amount of posts per page, so I can see the double.

Also, GET BACK ON TOPIC.

It sucks to be a buzzkill, but someone has to do it :/

 

[Corigames]

Can we get onto the topic of why you are SamuraiPanda? Where did you get such a fascinating and unique name?

If not, then I think that this conversation has come to a close. I don't think anything in this thread can be said without it have already been said at least once before and responded to by the same people. I honestly do.

What new could we possibly talk about? I think we've had at least one page on every character from Brawl and Melee, all the techniques, all the pros, different situations for different things, videos, pictures, and the Mods have already said that this thread is on the edge of going under.

Now, I love to sit and debate, but not the same crap over and over again. So I don't WANT to see this thread go, but if all it is going to be is circle jerking, then go ahead and close it.

 

[LavisFiend]

Really, what is the harm of discussing other things other than the material provided?

It's tapped out, and it is getting the users to calm down from the heat of debate.

 

[EC_Joey]

And we were so close to 400 pages..

 

[Corigames]

Te harm is that this thread could, potentially, bump otehr threads off the first page with more meaningful or fresh discussion. Plus, keeping this thread alive means there is an extra 400 pages of information stored on a server somewhere.

Plus, if debaters were getting in heat... I mean, if debates were getting heated, then closing the thread would be an even better excuse for mods to close this thread.

 

[-Wolfy-]

Te harm is that this thread could, potentially, bump otehr threads off the first page with more meaningful or fresh discussion. Plus, keeping this thread alive means there is an extra 400 pages of information stored on a server somewhere.

Plus, if debaters were getting in heat... I mean, if debates were getting heated, then closing the thread would be an even better excuse for mods to close this thread.

Even when it comes down to bumping meaningful debate down because this is always at the top, it is also in General Brawl Discussion. Meaningful sort of loses some of its potency in that context.

 

[EC_Joey]

Fresh discussion? The first page has anything but, with a few exceptions.

 

[Cloak and Dagger]

I didnt double post ***got it, smashboards did it.

 

[Corigames]

I said potentially... I don't actually think that there is anything worth saying in most threads.

 

[-Wolfy-]

I wish we could just change the title to open discussion, slide it over to the pool room, and just talk about E3 and how Microsoft realllly took Sony to pound town.

 

[-Linko-]

Well, so: if this debate is to be closed, we must post our conclusions (In order to reach 400 hundred), and give this thread its respectful end.

Those who should win will win.

And those that should win at Brawl have been winning pretty consistently. Look at DSF on the West, and Azen, Mew2King on the East.

We could also talk about how much East>>>>West, look at Azen's consistent **** on DSF:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kncHeytnYPA&fmt=18
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=FjgBYz0Q4Fg&&fmt=18

So, Brawl is suitable for competition. It may be less competitive than Melee, (I am sure Melee is more competitive) but Brawl is also competitive.

But, those MM data (a few pages ago) show us that Melee's popularity is decreasing. It may not be dieing, but at least, it is decreasing, while Brawl's tourneys are getting bigger. I am not saying that we should all jump to Brawl, just that it seems to have a bigger community.

Tl;dr version: Brawl has competitive future. Just not as "competitive" as Melee's.

Ps: Forgive my bad English, I am Spanish.

 

[-Wolfy-]

Well if you think about it, if Melee can pull together moderate attendances in the face of a game that simply attracts more people, it's not entirely dying. Imagine having thousands upon thousands of players who buy Brawl and start playing it with each other. If it can get moderate turnouts like MM even though a disproportinately large nubmer of players are flocking to brawl, that doesn't sound like dying to me. It may not be thriving, but it is surviving.

 

[Corigames]

It should be dominating though, which is why I'm sad >_>

 

[Reaver197]

I wish we could just change the title to open discussion, slide it over to the pool room, and just talk about E3 and how Microsoft realllly took Sony to pound town.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like they had much else other than a "ha ha Sony, we're multiplatforming ur exclusives". Gears of War 2 was pretty much the only thing that appealed to me. The rest of it was...360 is a netflix service/casual game machine now?

Fallout 3 looks...weird. I can't say yet whether I'm liking it or not.

But anyway, Melee is what I play with my friends, so it's staying for me, even unto the end of the world, mwa ha ha ha.

 

[-Wolfy-]

I traded in Brawl and GTA4 towards NCAA 09 which I'm going to pick up right now. Did you know Brawl still has a 30 dollar trade in value? Think about it.

 

[EC_Joey]

I'm waiting to see the Sony press conference. I just bought a PS3 so I hope they deliver some good stuff this year.

 

[thumbswayup]

I wish we could just change the title to open discussion, slide it over to the pool room, and just talk about E3 and how Microsoft realllly took Sony to pound town.

Who authorized FFXIII being made for the 360? That's one of the most horrible decisions I've ever seen.

 

[LavisFiend]

What did Nintendo announce at E3?

 

[EC_Joey]

The Nintendo press conference is going on right now.

 

[Corigames]

I'm streaming while trolling.

I'm so efficient.

 

[thumbswayup]

Link to the conference?

 

[EC_Joey]

I'm not watching a video stream because I'm at work, but I'm keeping an eye on Kotaku's liveblog:
http://www2.kotaku.com/5025295/nintendo-e3-08-press-conference-liveblog

 

[thumbswayup]

Thanks man. I'm also at work, but there's a chance I could watch the video stream if it's not blocked. If anyone could link me that it would be cool.

 

[thumbswayup]

You see this Variola, "Brian Ashcraft - they want to fill casual and core gamer needs" BULL****

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Who authorized FFXIII being made for the 360? That's one of the most horrible decisions I've ever seen.

Business-wise, it's one of the smartest moves that any of the Final Fantasy producers/creators could have done. More platforms=more money.

And Wolvy, thanks for the Kumby link the other night. Now I can watch Code Geass and fuggin' Claymore. Yeahyuzzz!

Smooth Criminal

 

[Corigames]

That SWORD FIGHTING WAS SO COOL.

Let's go play it competitively.

 

[EC_Joey]

LOL Wii Music is going to blow. Everyone will get so bored of "pretending" to play instruments.

 

[LavisFiend]

Well, it's nice to know my fears of the Nintendo E3 announcements sucking so bad no one mentioned them have been diminished.

I have crap to do in town, so I won't be back for a few hours. Can someone do me a favor and PM me the turnout from their E3 stage, or post all the juicy stuff here?

 

[EC_Joey]

So far Nintendo is sucking hardcore. Yeah, they're getting brisk sales, but I still feel that the Wii fails hard compared to the other two consoles.

EDIT: So the major announcements for Nintendo are: Shaun White snowboarding, Animal Crossing City Folk, Wii MotionPlus, Wii Fit Resort, Wii Music. Nothing exciting, what a crappy excuse for a press conference.

 

[thumbswayup]

crecente - Most music games require you to press buttons with precise timing matching symbols on screen to compete for the strongest performance

crecente - We designed wii music to allow everyone... to experience the joy of performing music

SHOOT ME

 

[Corigames]

I was most sad that nothing big was announced. The only things mentioned were Wii INSERTACTIONHERE titles, and not REAL games for the Wii. Hmmm... oh well.

 

[EC_Joey]

I hope the Sony press conference doesn't fail as hard as Nintendo did.