San Diego Lovin' - Triweekly XXXII - December 1st

[Rickety]

As much as I love the old Melee community, this one is very pretty, too!
You are all wonderful, adorable people. Thanks for having me over, and for letting me play with everyone! <3

 

[Engdrew]

well the stream is down, but EC > WC in crews just now
but SCORP ***** HBOX LOL

anyways, i guess ill text you all to head over soon so we can get this started!

 

[chiZZLeSD]

imma be playing some ball for a little bit but i should be able to make it after i grab something to eat.i'll see you guys in a few

 

[anto]

the last tournament i played was 2 years ago. gg. so what's up sd? how's the melee going? played like 4 hours today and me and my buddy wanna play some tourneys- ahh nostalgia haha

 

[chiZZLeSD]

how would you guys recommend i clean the inside of my controller?im talking about like:
- cleaning materials (q-tips/cotton balls/etc)
- cleaning solutions (rubbing alcohol/etc)

ps: if theres a smashfest tmrw and someone has a triwing could you bring it please :]

 

[Engdrew]

jun has one, but i dont know if i can host a smashfest tomorrow actually...
ill do the usual mass text (ill be sure to not make it a picture text haha)

if anything...fat camp is moving out of sixth/lodge area on the 14th, we shall reclaim our rightful space by having a tourney...? big smashfest? i dunno...ill talk to pat

hello anto, the new-age san diego melee community is pretty close knit. feel free to join us whenever we post something here and dont be afraid to come out :D we usually smash around the ucsd/la jolla area. sometimes near sdsu, and sometimes in mira mesa. it all depends on whos free and who plans it!

 

[Glöwworm]

the last tournament i played was 2 years ago. gg. so what's up sd? how's the melee going? played like 4 hours today and me and my buddy wanna play some tourneys- ahh nostalgia haha

noticed you live in chula vista. want to play sometime?

 

[.PNOY.]

the last tournament i played was 2 years ago. gg. so what's up sd? how's the melee going? played like 4 hours today and me and my buddy wanna play some tourneys- ahh nostalgia haha

THIS FOOL. always sayin he's gonna show up at a tourney then just NOT. haha nah jk.

not too many OG SD people are still playin (which sucks). but the new scene has been pretty active w/ Engdrew steppin it up, hosting smashfests now that the lodge got too heavy.

u should definitely hit up a smashfest whenever.

 

[anto]

hello anto, the new-age san diego melee community is pretty close knit. feel free to join us whenever we post something here and dont be afraid to come out :D we usually smash around the ucsd/la jolla area. sometimes near sdsu, and sometimes in mira mesa. it all depends on whos free and who plans it!

fo sho. looking forward to playing with you guys and hopefully some old faces

noticed you live in chula vista. want to play sometime?

yea i'm down i'll let you know whats up.

go easy on me guys i'm just a marth/fox/falco/falcon nub

 

[anto]

THIS FOOL. always sayin he's gonna show up at a tourney then just NOT. haha nah jk.

not too many OG SD people are still playin (which sucks). but the new scene has been pretty active w/ Engdrew steppin it up, hosting smashfests now that the lodge got too heavy.

u should definitely hit up a smashfest whenever.

lol yea man makes it more epic when i actually make it hahaha- blazin' asian migration sensation needs to show up.

time to get back on it haha

 

[Jun.]

how would you guys recommend i clean the inside of my controller?im talking about like:
- cleaning materials (q-tips/cotton balls/etc)
- cleaning solutions (rubbing alcohol/etc)

ps: if theres a smashfest tmrw and someone has a triwing could you bring it please :]

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2905
A triwing and a cross to open the trigger housing is 2 dollars shipped!

What I did was when I ordered I just ordered 3 sets because I knew someone would want them and just gave one set to Ky for 2 bucks. I suggest everyone who is gonna get some to just get 1 or 2 extra since people will need/want them for sure and will save us all a lot of time.

Yeah I have an extra set of a triwing and a cross screwdriver. I always bring it with me usually and if anyone wants it just give me like a 2-3 bucks.

For Cleaning
- Take apart the controller
- Clean the dirt out in the cracks of the casing (its gross yes I know its what melee does lol)
- Clean the control stick opening and the cstick opening of the top shell
- Dirt accumulates under the thumbrest of the control stick, clean that.
- Clean each of the holes for the buttons, you'll find a lot of dirt surrounding them.
- Take apart your triggers and wipe them down
- Get a towel lightly soaked with rubbing alcohol and rub down the casing thoroughly to get rid of the oil/dirt that has built up.
*be careful when putting the controller back together. You have to make sure the trigger levers are UP. UP UP UP.

 

[Lovage]

don't buy from dealextreme it will take 4 weeks and may or may not be a phillips head instead of a triwing

just buy from amazon for like 2 more dollars and it ships in 3 days

 

[Jun.]

I ordered from dealextreme and it was a triwing and a philips exactly like it said

took 1 week but I've heard reports of people getting later shipments.

that extra 2 dollars spent could be another set that includes a philips. Eh money is money

 

[chiZZLeSD]

For Cleaning
- Take apart the controller
- Clean the dirt out in the cracks of the casing (its gross yes I know its what melee does lol)
- Clean the control stick opening and the cstick opening of the top shell
- Dirt accumulates under the thumbrest of the control stick, clean that.
- Clean each of the holes for the buttons, you'll find a lot of dirt surrounding them.
- Take apart your triggers and wipe them down
- Get a towel lightly soaked with rubbing alcohol and rub down the casing thoroughly to get rid of the oil/dirt that has built up.
*be careful when putting the controller back together. You have to make sure the trigger levers are UP. UP UP UP.

whoa this sounds way more complicated than i thought lol

 

[Rickety]

Are you still willing to sell your triwing screwdriver, Jun?

If not, do not worry about it one bit! I can always order one (or two, or three!) online, I just wanted to fix Tony's controller sooner rather than later so I can play with him! <3

 

[Jun.]

ya i still have it! I wonder when i'll see you again though =[

 

[Rickety]

Crewdrivers!

Just name a time and place, silly, and I will meet you there! I'd be more than happy to give you five genuine, American dollars!

We can meet at a smash-fest, tournament, your house, back alley, anything! Whatever works for you! <3

---

I was reading some old threads yesterday about the importance of crews back in the old days (that Smash nostalgia-thing must be going around, Anto!), and it got me to thinking about the role of crews today. How important, if at all, are crews today?

Manacloud (Ken's older brother) used to always say that you were only as good as as the best member of your (four or five person) crew. Of course back then, there was no YouTube to watch top players and steal crib learn from, and unless you paid for an MLG subscription, you had to hunt far and wide for videos.

From my own experience, I think that the most fun I had with the competitive aspect of Melee was holding crew training sessions and practicing up for the upcoming triweekly or regional tournament. We learned, laughed, and ate together and had lots of groovy fun trying to get better together.

Eep! I'm babbling. Anyway, what does everyone here think of crews today? <3

 

[chiZZLeSD]

i think crews is always fun but everyone says its not a clear-cut assessment of how good a player, or group of players, is (which i agree with to an extent..i guess..lol).because of this everyone else thinks crews is useless and i guess thats why theyre not really done as often at tournaments anymore.buuuuuuuuut yeah back to answering the original question: crews is tight.i think regional crews should be done at every national that a big group of players from different regions (like pound) go to, but i understand that its hard to manage time for it and people get tired/lazy so yeah

 

[Rickety]

Whoops! I should have been a little bit clearer when I wrote that. What I was trying to say earlier was: with all sorts of videos and frame data to help us nowadays, how important is it to be in a crew to improve? For those currently in a crew, do you think that you would be as good as you are today if it wasn't from practicing with a crew?

 

[chiZZLeSD]

ohhhhh i thought you meant like..crew battles hahahaha.fail


..i dunno about being in a crew with all the videos that are up featuring top players.probably nowdays having a mentor or something to explain what top players are actually doing in these videos would be more beneficial to improvement

 

[Jun.]

I totally agree that your crew is the most important aspect of improvement.

You can watch all the youtube videos and read up on matchups all day but it comes down to the fact that application is more important than knowledge. If the members in your crew are acknowledgeable and they will help you form the collective knowledge base into solid foundations and not bad habits, that must be when good players are formed. For example : it can't be a coincidence how the people that play regularly with Mango improved at a much faster rate than players of other regions and are now the top of SoCal.

However I believe that "crew" as a term and concept has been largely abolished due to the diminishing community. Back when the melee community was large it was easy and possibly beneficial for high level players to separate themselves and play with each other for efficient improvement however that is not the case today. The number of melee players are small compared to the players of other games and even Brawl in some aspects. We no longer feel the need to separate ourselves from the local community by establishing a crew but instead would much rather just play as a whole. Because of this reason, I believe that crews have just been replaced with "the regular group of guys you play with." Still manacloud's aspect of being capped by your best players still exists as its very difficult or even impossible to improve further than the limitations of your regular opponents. What are you gonna do if someone brings a knife to a fistfight? What are you gonna do if someone brings a gun to a knifefight?

 

[Jack of Blades!]

I've always wanted to be in a crew or make a crew back when I started playing competitively in 07. The DBR videos were the first I really watched and they inspired me in many ways. Idk if the Melee community is smaller than it was before, it seems like it's bigger these days as a whole, just from the amount of attendance that all the major tournaments are getting now. Maybe certain regions have slowed down while others boomed. Or maybe people are willing to travel more these days for the big ones than back in the day.

 

[outofdashdwz]

About crews, I agree with what Jun posted, especially the second paragraph. Good stuff. I thought you meant crew battles too haha. Because I think that's the most fun part of tourneys/smashfests! I always look forward to crew battles at our smashfests Except when Jun is captain and somehow takes 9 stock. Then it's just dumb.

Jun, how many triwings do you have now? I kinda wanna paint my controller lol. Can I just borrow one from you for a like a day or two? (just need to take apart to paint and then reassemble after the paint dries so probably like 2 days max?) I probably won't be doing this until school starts anyway, but yea, just wondering.


Oh Pat, dunno if you finished the lab already, but did it take you a long time? lol

 

[Cheeri-Oats]

Smashfests recruit more people than tournaments, fact.

 

[Rickety]

San Diego Love? <3

How accurate is this as a list of San Diego smashers that have been to a tournament or smash-fest since Pat's House?

San Diego Smashers
Post-Pat's House!

Antonio Tiznado

Azn_Lep

Bone

Brandon Ownage King

Chizzle

Eclipse

Eddy Mexico

Engdrew

G&T

Glöwwworm

Hall

Homorapien

Jack of Blades

Jordan "Master of the Universe" Sheline

Junkimchi

Kluless

Lanstar

LHG

LittleFumi

MadRush

"Is Mahvel Baybee!" Kyle

Nawnscents

Oats

Out of the Shadows

Powered By Sex

Pnoy

Radical Dreamer

Rickety

Rock Leeland

SA2Jeff

Sean Legend

Sizzle

SK

Skull'n†

Syne

Taco

Vogue

Wahwah Judd

WASTE

Zephyr

Is someone missing? Do some of these people not belong? Suggestions, please! <3

(Anto

, TKD

, WayChu

, and others weren't on here because they haven't gone to anything Melee-related in over a year, I think. [Actually, maybe we should put them on, anyway! <3])

Who are San Diego's core players?

(I feel my old 2007 obsession for knowing each and every San Diego player coming back! <3)

Edit: More added! <3

 

[chiZZLeSD]

get get antonio tiznado off there.he sucks haha


<3

 

[Engdrew]

you can add homorapien and oats to that list too :]

im pretty sure you know oats and homorapien is one of my friends (miguel knows him b/c they always.....ill leave it at that)

ill comment about crews later :]

 

[outofdashdwz]

LOL yea homorapien is really good :D sunny's also pretty active too, but he doesn't really post. Same with Kevin and Kelvin, don't know what they enter tourneys as though. (kluless/taco)?

 

[Engdrew]

yeah i teamed with taco when...kelvin ditched him? or was it you, eric? i cant remember loll

 

[Rickety]

Added and added!

Who do Homorapien and Taco play as? :]

Also, who uses a specific color? <3 <3

I can't wait to play! I heard that there are two different smash-fests going on today, but I need to double check! <3

 

[Engdrew]

homorapien: marth, falcon, falco
taco: doc

edit: i dont know of any smashfests today D:
if someone wants me to host one i can, just tell me when and ill make it happen!

 

[PNaleek]

Haha, you can take me off the list Rickety. I'm Central California now.

 

[mrtracy]

**** sick list rickety, good job on putting that together! dude and 2 smashfests today?? i have class till 5:45 but i'm down to play somewhere. hit me upppp

310.251.2192. call/text

 

[anto]

dang hella haven't been playing haha i don't even know half those players. lets change that i wanna play! lol.

as for crews, it's a good way to practice all that tech skill and see what works and what doesn't work. and on a meta game level, it teaches you how to constantly adjust since you are playing with the same people over and over and chances are they have caught onto your habits and patterns and vice versa, which in theory would help in tournaments as you could adjust to what other players are doing.

 

[Engdrew]

oh yeah and i use mostly green :]

 

[Rickety]

Letters, letters!

homorapien: marth, falcon, falco
taco: doc

There! Fixed it! Thank you!

edit: i dont know of any smashfests today D:
if someone wants me to host one i can, just tell me when and ill make it happen!

Aw, thank you, Engdrew! With your open arms, easygoing personality (and good looks, to boot!), you have become a real pillar of unity in our little community! <3 <3

Haha, you can take me off the list Rickety. I'm Central California now.

Ah, okay. I hope to see you back here, though! <3

**** sick list rickety, good job on putting that together! dude and 2 smashfests today?? i have class till 5:45 but i'm down to play somewhere. hit me upppp

310.251.2192. call/text

Josh/Lanstar will be playing tonight with Bone, Jack, and I. His house is in Lakeside, though. Let me know if anyone is interested! I can be reached at 858-776-3133. <3

dang hella haven't been playing haha i don't even know half those players. lets change that i wanna play! lol.

as for crews, it's a good way to practice all that tech skill and see what works and what doesn't work. and on a meta game level, it teaches you how to constantly adjust since you are playing with the same people over and over and chances are they have caught onto your habits and patterns and vice versa, which in theory would help in tournaments as you could adjust to what other players are doing.

Thank you very much for your thoughts, Anto!
Aw, I miss you! <3

oh yeah and i use mostly green :]

I already put you down as green, silly! <3

 

[outofdashdwz]

yeah i teamed with taco when...kelvin ditched him? or was it you, eric? i cant remember loll

Nah, I was there. I team with Sunny haha. Kelvin had to leave early or something, but you guys did alright, I think?

Aw, thank you, Engdrew! With your open arms, easygoing personality (and good looks, to boot!), you have become a real pillar of unity in our little community! <3 <3

And his dog! can't forget about Ein! omg love his dog. <3333 ein

 

[chiZZLeSD]

oh yeah and i use mostly green :]

i like red.i feel like i play more aggressively when i use red for some reason.unless im playing falco..in which case im aggressive all the time haha

if someone wants me to host one i can, just tell me when and ill make it happen!

how about thursday :]

 

[Engdrew]

Prepare for a long post.

SMASHFEST:
-Thursday, my place - by request from Charles :]
-1pm-whenever? lets do dinner again, that was fun
-PM me if you dont have my address already and want to come
-Rest of you, i will text as i always do

CREWS:
Time for the serious business. I have definitely seen the diminishing popularity of crew battles at tournaments largely because of the dwindling community size and popularity of the game. With this decline in popularity, the importance of crews is not as emphasized or seen as necessary in the scene today. This overall decrease has its advantages and disadvantages.

As a player, I've always told myself the only way to get better is by playing people better than you are. For me that was a huge challenge - stepping out of my bubble of friends (who I had become just as good as over the course of 2 years or so) and trying to play in tournaments where I knew I was throwing $5-10 away going 1-2 or 0-2 in brackets. I remember Zhu being in my Winter Game Fest pool, and he was totally cool about owning the **** out of me, and that really helped me in terms of wanting to get better at the game. I never sought after the idea of a crew or creating one, but I was always eager to play and meet people like Edrees, etc. back in the day.

Not having crews as often or as a regular event at tournaments takes away some interesting competitive aspects of the game. When I think of crews, I think of the Korean Pro Starcraft scene and the Shinhan Bank Proleague. Teams of players would play in a Bo5 team match. Players would specialize in certain matchups & maps and be sent out against other players to snipe them. This kind of coordination emphasizes the team concept in a different manner than doubles matches for obvious reasons. Rather than depending on your own performance played out in a bracket, you had to depend on your team to pull out a victory (unless you're M2K, then you can take all the stocks off the other crew). This team concept also brought many players together and encourages a different kind of competitive camaraderie that I think the scene lacks today. (Reminds me of the U-S-A chant during Mango v. Armada, and then the AR-MA-DA guy LOL). But yes, crews are always fun when we do them during smashfests.

The existence or lack of crews never in my opinion dictated how good a player could get. Improvement comes with initiative. That's the most important part. If you don't have the desire to get better at the game, you won't. It's as simple as that.

Look at us now. I'd say San Diego melee has open doors for anyone and everyone that has love for the game, whether we know each other or not. For me personally, I wholeheartedly enjoy spending time with you guys, letting you use my chairs, couches, tables, TV's, games, and controllers for this game. I have so many people's phone numbers, I can't even fit all your names into one text message any more. We've become pretty tight with one another, and I can even leave my apartment in confidence that there are people that I trust to hold down the fort in my absence. We don't need a "crew" for things like this to grow, or to become better at the game - if anything San Diego is my crew now. :]





You guys should read my fat-camp post if you haven't already, that one was pretty epic too LOL

I realized that I'm kind of like Leeland, I close to never play sheik (who I would consider my main) in friendlies. I'm just wondering what you guys think of the characters that I play with you guys. If I could rank...it would be something like..

-Sheik (doesn't count)
-Ganon..?
-Luigi..?
-CF
-Marth
-Jiggs

bad, but I try to work on them: Fox, Falco lolll

Anyways, good **** guys haha, until next time.



EDIT: btw pat, lets organize a triweekly/tourney, call it fat-camp exorcism or something. LOL

 

[Jun.]

you're a ganon/luigi main
think it depends on the matchup which one is better. Luigi against fox/falco/maybe falcon and ganon against spacing battles. Maybe its dependent on stage too.

SMASHFEST THURSDAY sounds great.

A triweekly soon sounds great too. I really need rickety and Ilija's playtime to help win my money match against stupid sherigami. $50. I'm sure his sheik is nothing compared to SD's dirty sheiks <3

root for me when it happens =]