Just kidding here's the real post I've been working on. Fair warning I didn't proofread this at all since I've gotta get ready for work so if something doesn't read right or I accidentally admit a horrible personal secret try not to judge me too harshly.
First things first, not a dayvig. Probably. At least if I am I'm certainly not shooting today. Lemme go over the game from the start with what we've learned so far.
Right away getting the cold shoulder (or, SOLD coulder?) from S2 was really not at all what I expected in a Upick mafia, especially so early into the game. Could chalk that one up to my claim being (for some of you guys) really transparent, but then again I don't really know. I know I'm a bit of a hypocrite for saying this since I'm about to call people out for this, but I don't like Sold so far but its just kind of a gut thing (though I still want to be his friend).
Speaking of, I guess I should clear up
why I claimed what I did. Biggest reasons are:
-I'm not sure I can cite this reason because its an ongoing game but sometimes people are REALLY inactive at the start of games
-It would generate a butt ton of content for us to look at (and it did) instead of 'I'M VOTING
THIS GUY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT NOW ARE YOU SCUM???'
-Setting a deadline like that actually gives us some insight into potential mafia slots as well. I won't pretend like this is rock solid damning evidence but just bear with me. I'm going to touch more on this later.
Next up to bat is Joey, whom I've seen catch a lot of heat for his responses to things thus far. I personally have him as a town lead though, reasoning being that I don't see scumJoey sticking his neck out so hard, especially in the first page of the game. My claim was weird, but hardly something a lynch was going to be swung off of and I think Joey would be aware of that, meaning he was pressuring it from a genuine scumread on myself. I feel this is further supported by his dedication to not liking my slot even presently as well as his similar stance on Bardull's play. Doesn't make it RIGHT, but does make me want him alive. In brief, Scumjoey's not dumb enough to be trying to lynch every person who does something kind of wrong immediately and unwaveringly.
Kary's VT claim is WEIRD but for now I am going to leave it at just that. More important stuff to worry about.
Genuinely like Fireemblemnier. I'm ass terrible at reading new people but I dunno I don't have any issues with him.
OK nice another hot topic, BARDULL. Bardull I'm kind of on the fence for. Trying hard certainly isn't something I want to discourage, but he's coming in like its lylo and we're 24 hours from deadline trying to make things happen. He's part of the shortsighted 'man that Glyph guy sure is playing anti-town' group that I'm really disappointed in (come on guys what do you think that was for ****s and giggles) but thats hardly any reason to damn him at the moment.
Orbo. The man with a bullet in his back. Why oh why did I pretend to shoot him?
Reminder that i might not get **** all out for a couple days. Inprocessing overseas is a *****
This post. Remember when I was talking about how setting a deadline for my shot gave us some insight on scum? Let me delve into that with a little more detail.
Mafia have one distinct advantage over town, being of course that they have a network of private communication. Whether or not you believed my dayvig claim, there is ZERO reason to gamble on being the inactive shot if you're scum
especially when you've got friends to poke you and just get you into the thread.
So, based off that assumption there were two things I was watching for. One, people who didn't post at all were probably not mafia. And two, anyone who came in for the bare minimum was hella suspicious. Orbo happened to fit the second bill quite nicely. His following play is some good questions but a whole lot of nothing for anyone to work with, which still falls very much in line with the 'bare minimum'. In fact up until I pry reads out of him at gunpoint do we actually get anything that actually could be called a stance from him. Its possible that he was just busy with his inprocessing, but not busy enough to stop him from making enough posts to be considered 'active' with no content in them? BLEGH.
[in response to being shot]Why doe
Gimme why you shot me first, especially as you were indicating shots elsewhere
Rake is town prolly.i like kary
Adding fuel to the fire. Don't like that he refused to share reads until after I told him why he was shot, and I really feel like his initial reaction's calmness doesn't like up with how aggressive the second post reads.
Ok but that's enough of that. Lets talk about another person I think is scummy. Brace yourselves for the shock of the century oh wait its Rake that guy people always think is scum apparently.
BUT WHY GLYPH.
Ok first off, sorry for putting this off but I really wanted to commit to the 'i shot orbo' but and wanted that to be as convincing as possible. Thank you RR for not posting a vote count in the mean time. But down to business, my issues stem literally from a single vote.
This was interesting enough to sidetrack me from the fun I was planing to have with the Orbo stuff even. Lets look at this vote from a town perspective. Is this the time to be pressuring inactives? No, there's not only a ton of content floating around in the thread but its also early enough in the day that they might show up anyway. Do we gain anything from this vote, or potential wagon? We might give Maven a heart attack, but since there's no reason to suspect he's either scum or town yet that seems counter productive. Look at his play from a scum perspective though and I feel his actions make a lot more sense. His early play reads very similarly to Orbo's, a lot of saying things that are mafia related but boil down to questions for other people to answer and restating things that have happened. No hard stances, lots of kind of maybe stances towards things that are easy to change out, junk like that.
Also, random though
anyone else feel tvt with bard and gheb on the onset or is it just me
If Rake flips scum I'd bet money that one of the two of these two are scum with him.
Ok so that's a decent bit of stuff to work with, let me boil it down into something a little more succinct.
Town - Joey, Fireemblemnier, Bardull (lean)
Scum - Orbo, Rake, Sold (lean)
Intentionally not discussed - Gheb, Kary, other people who haven't done stuff