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[Orboknown]

Glyph is Town. Joey is scum. Is that right?

I can see the first half; Glyph's play has, for the most part, been attracting a lot of attention towards himself, and it doesn't really seem conducive to Town's interests. Hence my "stahp" post; I think he's being anti-town, but it doesn't come off as really scummy to me. If he's scum, he's trying to lead Town around of his own accord by waving a gun around, which would be a bit bolder of a play for him to make. His play is different from a certain other game too, so there's that.

No comment on Joey for now.

WRT Rake: I support a Rake vig only because the slot has, at least in recent memory, been notorious for inactivity/sitting around in the background (especially as scum, i.e. dc vs. marvel annnd some other game that probably hasn't ended yet, among others). Leave no stone unturned, and so long as Rake isn't really contributing, the only way to turn that stone over is to blast dat motha****a or investigate him, and I'd much rather not see an investigation used on the slot when we can't really determine connections if he's not contributing.

Why mention joeyscum and not comment on it?

 

[Orboknown]

I never said you should take a stance based on a joke, wise guy. There's plenty of content to go around with us being four pages in that you can take a stance on.

If I tell you that you aren't contributing anything, and you actually aren't contributing anything, then you're going to have to suck it up and deal with it. I literally don't give a flying **** if you think I'm being a brat. I want this ball to start rolling, and you contributing absolutely NOTHING is not helping us find scum. If it isn't clear now, I'll make it clear: you're not helping me help you, therefore I can't work with you. Yes, this is something semblant of a declaration that I am not currently trying to get things going with your help, if that wasn't readily apparent; instead, I have to be an 'annoying brat' to get you to actually post content, which you still haven't done.

It's obvious and apparent you don't like being nudged, but I don't give a damn. Insist that I'm a brat all you want, but you can't deny that you've accomplished nothing in this game so far except **** post. You have no direction, no aim, and I don't see the Town intent.

Vote: Gheb

God this whole thing sucks, shouldnt have flown off the handle like this over gheb tossing you an entirely reasonable question

 

[BarDulL]

People are overreacting to my demeanor and need to focus on the logic presented in what I'm saying.

If my demeanor is so important that I need to elaborate on it, then I will do so in my next post.

Why mention joeyscum and not comment on it?

I have no idea where you're going with this question. Are you cherry picking my posts or something? Fireemblem said he was leaning Joeyscum and GlyphTown, and I responded by first reiterating his stance. I agreed with him on Glyph, did not immediately agree on Joey as I currently have Joey at null and am still looking to read him.

 

[Orboknown]

Okay. Looked like you were stating your own reads there

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Leaning town on most of the actie slots right now.

Wondering where S2n's head is at regarding recent input.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Joey, my shot is compulsory and if I fail to use it by the end of today I'm modkilled. Who should I shoot?

 

[Dooms]

Joey, my shot is compulsory and if I fail to use it by the end of today I'm modkilled. Who should I shoot?

Bardull.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You think his play is scummy?

 

[Orboknown]

And why bardull when people havent posted yet?
Be back after pt

 

[Dooms]

You think his play is scummy?

I don't like his reaction to Kary, and while I don't agree with everything Kary has said (specifically regarding his thoughts on Bardull reaffirming his alignment), I don't like his interaction with you in the slightest.

And why bardull when people havent posted yet?
Be back after pt

I would much prefer a Bardull shot considering his apparent V/LA status and his play over slots that still have the potential to get into the game and could benefit town greatly.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I don't like his reaction to Kary, and while I don't agree with everything Kary has said (specifically regarding his thoughts on Bardull reaffirming his alignment), I don't like his interaction with you in the slightest.

What's wrong with it?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

On reflection, I feel like being too concerned about his own slot is probably null coming from Bardull. I still don't really understand why he hates Gheb's slot so much when other people haven't even posted, but ehh.

I guess the best way of putting it is that I don't think his play is pro-town at all. But on the other hand its not mad scummy either, its just pretty bad. I should really compare his activity level here (high) with hadrbody to see if it matches his scumplay, but I'm lazy right now. I also don't want to get drawn in on one slot when some people still haven't posted

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Now one question I have Kary, how suspicious are you of Bar? Cause I'm pretty sure your opinion on gheb is town lean

im a bit suspicious of Bardull, not gonna lie. But not that much. Slight scum lean.

what makes you think i'm town lean on Gheb?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

reads more like inquiring gheb then scuumy fhishing pr pushing gehb you know, he's not trying to abuse bardull's positoon from mypov, on my cursory read i def feel that way.plus its not like he's overpushing bardull on it

ok - this explains thinking gheb is town from the interaction, but why is it TvT? what about bardull's end?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

ok - this explains thinking gheb is town from the interaction, but why is it TvT? what about bardull's end?

i'll respond to this in a little

 

[Fire Emblemier]

OK so let's talk about the ones who haven't posted as of yet: Maven and Potassium, correct?

For Maven I'm a little suspicious of. Reasoning behind this is the last game I played with him he was also quite inactive and turned out to be scum. Could be his play, I guess. If Glyph is going to shoot someone today I would say he might be the optimal choice in inactive sniping.

Potassium on the other hand I know nothing about, so I'm going to believe he's more likely town, but that doesn't mean I'm fully certain on it.

 

[Orboknown]

Why is potassium(aka kantrips)inactivity more likely to be town?

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Why is potassium(aka kantrips)inactivity more likely to be town?

As I explained I have no opinion on him and with there more than likely being way more town then scum I felt it was a safe option

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Whats this?

1. Maven89
2. Orboknown - #HBC | Kary, (1)
3. DtJ Glyphmoney - #HBC | Joey, (1)
4. DTJ S2n
5. FireEmblemnier
6. #HBC | Joey
7. #HBC | Kary
8. #HBC | Bardull
9. Rake
10. Gheb - DTJ S2n, (1)
11. Kantrip

Not voting: Maven89, Orboknown, DtJ Glyphmoney, FireEmblemnier, #HBC | Rake, Gheb_01, Potassium,

Deadline December 7th, 11:59 PM CST.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Mulan will make a man out of you I am sure of it.

Yeah wait you two!

@Potassium @Maven89

You need to post now! Before I send you home as sissies!

"Same for you"

"who said that"

"You're fired, get out, you don't belong in the military! Get out!"

The Mod is now an Ultramarine!

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu prods?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

wow nvm.... thanks based SWF

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

kary, who's scum

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

vote maven.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Secret Shot: Orbo

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

bardull just looks way too flustered in hi interactions for me tho think he has an agenda like he does as scum really , @ #HBC | Kary

 

[Dooms]

As I explained I have no opinion on him and with there more than likely being way more town then scum I felt it was a safe option

When you don't feel that a player is town or scum, they should be listed as "null" in your reads. Null means they either haven't done anything in the game, or you don't feel like they're a town or scum read. You don't have to put all of your reads into a town/scum category.

Regarding my Bardull thoughts:

Bardull jumps on Gheb, saying he hasn't commented on anything. In reality, Gheb was literally half of the actual discussion going on in the game. The other half of the game (me vs Glyph), he commented on making it obvious he thought Glyph was trolling (and his post saying "who actually believes Glyph's claim" confirms this thought). Bardull continues this into his vote on page 4 while Gheb still proves to be commenting on things more than most slots.

This is what has happened so far:

Gheb fakeclaim (he started this)
Joey vs Glyph (he commented on this with his "r8 8/8" post and even more later, all of which defining that he didn't believe Glyph's claim)
---This is where Bardull first stated that Gheb hasn't contributed anything and that we were out of RVS---
Kary vs Bardull (he contributed to this)
Gheb vs Bardull (he was a part of this)

That was pretty much it. Based on what was given in this game, I don't understand him pushing Gheb for not contributing anything from a town perspective, nor do I understand him reacting with "Are you done baselessly chastising me?" regarding Gheb's line of questioning. I also don't see where he's coming from when he says "There is enough that has happened in this game to not be in RVS", because that's really unrealistic.

Regarding Bardull's response to Kary, this line really threw me towards suspicious

"I mean, let's not be hypocritical here; you've formulated a stance on my slot based on a post from page 3."

The fact that he's trying to say this about Kary when Kary and Bardull's reads are based on completely different things disgusts me.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

vote maven.

Explain this vote

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Preferably before the day potential ends

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

really ? that's your question. weak sauce glyph

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

i don't buy it lol.

If you did shoot orbo then i must appluad having the balls to actually use your ability

 

[Orboknown]

Secret Shot: Orbo

Why doe

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

vote maven.

Explain this vote

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Orbo if you're town give me some stuff to work with tomorrow. If you're scum go ahead and don't bother wasting your breath

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

but to answer your question, i'd rather vote maven and create a pressure wagon then pursue reading into jeoy's bardull case mostly because i think joey's got an agenda against bardull but i've only skimmed his posts so i can't really lay my foot on that

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

joey might be scum, that glyph thing is still odd on it's own let alone in context

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

but to answer your question, i'd rather vote maven and create a pressure wagon then pursue reading into jeoy's bardull case mostly because i think joey's got an agenda against bardull but i've only skimmed his posts so i can't really lay my foot on that

You're high priority lynch target tomorrow. I'll explain once that time rolls around.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I look forward to having to deal with that lol.

You back-burning it is null at least though i do't like it.

Explain it now if 'm so high priority, or is it a secret ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

He could be making a dumb decision without putting any thought into it as town, but outside of that and those two options, I don't see any other possibilities.

I don't see any reason why a townie would shoot an inactive so early into the game. I don't see why he thinks this would benefit town in the slightest, nor do I see why he wouldn't save it for a better scenario that could (and probably will considering how inactivity is always an issue in mafia games lately let alone if someone plays scummy and doesn't get lynched) come up later.

expalin how you feel about this if orbo really dies

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

There's nothing to gain from pushing it now, can't get a lynch in. We'll cross that bridge tomorrow. For now just know you're prob scum in my book.