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[Dooms]

Why though? What glyph put out wasnt exactly awe inspiring but it didn't read scummy either

Why are you using your day vig within 3 days on an inactive? Do you really think that is beneficial to town in the slightest?

Why would you not save it for when a player actually proves that they won't be active in this game or if there are multiple scummy slots that need to be lynched?

The fact that you're trying to off your ability so early within the day on a random inactive makes me believe that you're either lying or you're scum with a day kill.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

OK Bardull, let's make this clear. You say you want to work with me. Do you think that randomly nudging somebody into taking an absolute stance on something based entirely on a joke is a good way of getting that person to work with you? I don't think it is. For your own sake I really hope that you don't think so either. Because if you think that being an annoying brat is the right way to communicate with somebody you can't expect anybody to work with you. So maybe next time, if you actually want to work with somebody, you could try acting like an actual human being. It works better than putting up a show.

And no I wouldn't shoot Rake right now if I had that ability. Especially not if it were the only shot I could take.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

The fact that you're trying to off your ability so early within the day on a random inactive makes me believe that you're either lying or you're scum with a day kill.

Looking back at things I find this post to be strange. Are you sure that these are the only two feasible reasons you could think of to explain Glyph's behavior?

 

[Dooms]

Looking back at things I find this post to be strange. Are you sure that these are the only two feasible reasons you could think of to explain Glyph's behavior?

He could be making a dumb decision without putting any thought into it as town, but outside of that and those two options, I don't see any other possibilities.

I don't see any reason why a townie would shoot an inactive so early into the game. I don't see why he thinks this would benefit town in the slightest, nor do I see why he wouldn't save it for a better scenario that could (and probably will considering how inactivity is always an issue in mafia games lately let alone if someone plays scummy and doesn't get lynched) come up later.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Maven89 and @Potassium still not posted anything?

This game is stupid slow right now. Please guys, come on.

 

[Dooms]

Bardull with maximum tryhard pants on, file it under suspicious.

What do you mean by "maximum tryhard pants", Kary?

 

[BarDulL]

OK Bardull, let's make this clear. You say you want to work with me. Do you think that randomly nudging somebody into taking an absolute stance on something based entirely on a joke is a good way of getting that person to work with you? I don't think it is. For your own sake I really hope that you don't think so either. Because if you think that being an annoying brat is the right way to communicate with somebody you can't expect anybody to work with you. So maybe next time, if you actually want to work with somebody, you could try acting like an actual human being. It works better than putting up a show.

And no I wouldn't shoot Rake right now if I had that ability. Especially not if it were the only shot I could take.

I never said you should take a stance based on a joke, wise guy. There's plenty of content to go around with us being four pages in that you can take a stance on.

If I tell you that you aren't contributing anything, and you actually aren't contributing anything, then you're going to have to suck it up and deal with it. I literally don't give a flying **** if you think I'm being a brat. I want this ball to start rolling, and you contributing absolutely NOTHING is not helping us find scum. If it isn't clear now, I'll make it clear: you're not helping me help you, therefore I can't work with you. Yes, this is something semblant of a declaration that I am not currently trying to get things going with your help, if that wasn't readily apparent; instead, I have to be an 'annoying brat' to get you to actually post content, which you still haven't done.

It's obvious and apparent you don't like being nudged, but I don't give a damn. Insist that I'm a brat all you want, but you can't deny that you've accomplished nothing in this game so far except **** post. You have no direction, no aim, and I don't see the Town intent.

Vote: Gheb

 

[#HBC | Kary]

What do you mean by "maximum tryhard pants", Kary?

Hi Joey

Would like Gheb to actually commit to something instead of claiming his play up to this point was entirely a joke RVS ploy.

barely two pages into the game, bardull wants firm stances from gheb. pardon? How can you commit to something when nothing has happened yet?

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You are supposed to joke around and do whatever in RVS; at least you are posting. The whole reason RVS exists is because there isn't any information available for the town to work with. Expecting actual commitment in RVS is a joke.
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I want actual content we can use, Joey, because I am trying to win the game by helping get the ball rolling.

"I am town and I want to help town and also I am being townie, look at me being townie"

-aka trying too hard

now, why am i filing it under 'suspicious'?
well, #1 there's no real need to try so hard in RVS. As I said you can just post whatever really.
#2 calling attention to your own alignment, without prompting, and phrasing it in a way that seems unnatural? kinda fishy.

yeah i know bardull doesn't actually say 'i'm town' he says 'i'm trying to win', but its strongly implied.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

wasn't bardull obvscum in... enter the hardbody? man that took some searching to find the name. i need to do my research

 

[#HBC | Kary]

jesus wept that game was march 2013 lol

anyways. thats what his play here brings to mind.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

He could be making a dumb decision without putting any thought into it as town, but outside of that and those two options, I don't see any other possibilities.

I don't see any reason why a townie would shoot an inactive so early into the game. [...]

You understand the difference between shooting somebody and saying you're gonna shoot somebody though, right?

 

[BarDulL]

yeah i know bardull doesn't actually say 'i'm town' he says 'i'm trying to win', but its strongly implied.

Oh hey, you finally answered my question, except Joey basically had to ask it again for me. I chuckled at you trying to get me replaced though.

Explaining myself and my actions to someone who is making an inquiry about them is not tryhard. Glyph claiming that he is a day vig and that he's going to single handedly try to skip RVS is considerably tryhard.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

OK timeout guys.

Who of you actually thinks Glyph was being real with his claim?

 

[BarDulL]

It's not about his claim being real or not real, it's about what he was intending to do with the claim itself.

Why are you asking this question and how does it help Town?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

[...] it's about what he was intending to do with the claim itself.

Which is what? Tell me, wise man.

 

[Dooms]

Alright, Kary. That makes sense.

OK timeout guys.

Who of you actually thinks Glyph was being real with his claim?

I'm neutral towards his claim being legitimate or not. I could see him faking it for reaction baiting. Same with him legitimately claiming that early.

 

[BarDulL]

Which is what? Tell me, wise man.

try to skip RVS

There are a multitude of other reasons it could be in the long term (credibility, sway, etc.), but I'm not going to feed him any answers when people are still inquiring about the slot.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

OK but if that's the case then he succeeded with his plan without actually having done a whole lot yet. Sounds like the exact opposite of tryhard if you ask me. You've lost a lot more words than he did and yet you haven't brought this game further one bit.

 

[BarDulL]

So are you done trying to baselessly chastise me?

 

[BarDulL]

Wait, I'll answer that for you.

"No.

"

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Explaining myself and my actions to someone who is making an inquiry about them is not tryhard. Glyph claiming that he is a day vig and that he's going to single handedly try to skip RVS is considerably tryhard.

I called you out using as 'maximum tryhard pants' and your response was literally:

For the record, I'm actually trying to play the game, just like anyone else.

I think its pretty obvious that your play is weird, as I explained in #128. Whether it's 'tryhard' or not, your play throws up flags that Glyph's and Joey's don't.

And you just saying that you're not tryhard doesn't change anything.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

OK timeout guys.

Who of you actually thinks Glyph was being real with his claim?

fwiw I doubt it. Im not really thinking about it, because I expect whether or not he shoots anyone toDay will answer that question. So it doesn't really matter at this point?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@ Fire Emblemier I want your opinion on Gheb v Bardull so far. Who do you think is more likely to be town, and why?

 

[BarDulL]

Gonna respond to this in full first.

barely two pages into the game, bardull wants firm stances from gheb. pardon? How can you commit to something when nothing has happened yet?

The semantics ***** in me is going to tell you that we were 3 pages into the game, with already a lot of content to have happened. Glyph claiming, Joey confronting glyph about it, etc. There was enough to talk about and warrant a stance, just as there is now with only 4 pages in.

I mean, let's not be hypocritical here; you've formulated a stance on my slot based on a post from page 3.

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You are supposed to joke around and do whatever in RVS; at least you are posting. The whole reason RVS exists is because there isn't any information available for the town to work with. Expecting actual commitment in RVS is a joke.
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There was enough content up to this point to warrant moving out of RVS. Have you been reading?

"I am town and I want to help town and also I am being townie, look at me being townie"

-aka trying too hard

I feel like this is drummed up really poorly. I explained myself and what I was doing fully and completely to be as transparent as possible.

now, why am i filing it under 'suspicious'?

well, #1 there's no real need to try so hard in RVS. As I said you can just post whatever really.
#2 calling attention to your own alignment, without prompting, and phrasing it in a way that seems unnatural? kinda fishy.

yeah i know bardull doesn't actually say 'i'm town' he says 'i'm trying to win', but its strongly implied.

Explaining my actions and why I'm doing them is always an inadvertent assertion of "I'm Town and I want you to work with me" in mafia. Think about it.

 

[BarDulL]

I called you out using as 'maximum tryhard pants' and your response was literally:

I think its pretty obvious that your play is weird, as I explained in #128. Whether it's 'tryhard' or not, your play throws up flags that Glyph's and Joey's don't.

And you just saying that you're not tryhard doesn't change anything.

That isn't why I said that. I said that because I'm confused as to why you think I am try-harding in comparison to other slots.

 

[BarDulL]

I called you out using as 'maximum tryhard pants' and your response was literally:




I think its pretty obvious that your play is weird, as I explained in #128. Whether it's 'tryhard' or not, your play throws up flags that Glyph's and Joey's don't.

And you just saying that you're not tryhard doesn't change anything.

EBWOP: That isn't why I said that; I said that because I'm confused as to why you think I was try-harding in comparison to other slots.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

you're really ****ing bad at this LOL

 

[BarDulL]

Well then.

 

[BarDulL]

Kary has officially lost me contextually, and I need to get going to my English class, so if people can give stances on all the interactions that have happened so far, that would be peachy.

 

[BarDulL]

Not all of them, I don't want a god damn book report. But we're OBVIOUSLY out of RVS by now. No johns.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

@ Fire Emblemier I want your opinion on Gheb v Bardull so far. Who do you think is more likely to be town, and why?

At the moment I can see both as likely Town. Yet I see Gheb just a little more likely as he hasn't shown any particular signs of suspicion this game.

I also understand Bar was trying to push outside the RVS phase of the game, which doesn't seem to inherently scummy at least in my eyes. Even with how extreme in the push he had.

Now one question I have Kary, how suspicious are you of Bar? Cause I'm pretty sure your opinion on gheb is town lean

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

anyone else feel tvt with bard and gheb on the onset or is it just me

 

[Orboknown]

Like kary over bardull, gheb null

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

fire bro, why do you feel that way about gheb and bardull ?

 

[Orboknown]

anyone else feel tvt with bard and gheb on the onset or is it just me

Prolly just you

 

[#HBC | Kary]

anyone else feel tvt with bard and gheb on the onset or is it just me

what gives you that feel?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

reads more like inquiring gheb then scuumy fhishing pr pushing gehb you know, he's not trying to abuse bardull's positoon from mypov, on my cursory read i def feel that way.plus its not like he's overpushing bardull on it

 

[BarDulL]

I was so confused at Kary because I couldn't understand why he said I was so bad LOL! Was like "either this dude is ACTUALLY resorting to ad hominem, or he's actually that confident in himself."

So, trying to understand Kary's line of approach from a town perspective, I looked over ENTER THE HARDBODY mafia, since that seems to be where he's drawing a lot of his meta analysis about me being obvscum apparently?

I actually wasn't obvscum in that game; Kuzi, among others, felt I was Town that game. The only person, literally the ONLY person who thought I was scum that game was Kataefi, who was also the vig, who also shot me N1.

So I literally do not understand his meta analysis and I don't understand how me trying to be transparent with Joey is scummy. How are Orbo and Joey in favor of Kary, wtf??

 

[Orboknown]

Because kary isnt flipping out towards people and he seems logical in his approach

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

vote count when i wake up.