Ryu's All PR Upick in honor of Utricked Mafia - Day 4 Begins! Deadline Janurary 9th!

[Fire Emblemier]

Please do.

Usually Jack of all Trades roles can use only one of their abilities at a time, and each ability only once each.

Reread the details of my role and it is as you say. So I probably should of used my track as it could clear a player as Town or catch scum.

 

[Orboknown]

By this do you mean you tell the mod what flavour the mod is?

So the little quips in the votecounts from Ruy have been your doing?

Yes.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I started the game with 4 items, a gun, a crystal, a bulletproof vest, and some bread. I have given out two items, and last night the last two were stolen.

 

[Kantrip]

what did the bread and crystal do?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

The bread is supposed to prevent starvation during a famine (no idea), and the crystal lets the holder check another player's alignment if they're NK'd.

 

[Orboknown]

If the person with the Crystal is nkd or if its like a janned kill?

 

[Kantrip]

im interpreting that kind of like a one-shot coroner

which means glyph had knowledge of there being a janitor from d1

 

[~ Gheb ~]

This may be seem to be a bit of a short-sighted way of looking at things but who thinks that the JoaT and the Inventor are actually both town?

 

[Orboknown]

Dya think vith claims are frue gheb? Obvs glyph handed you a daykill but ya think fie giving the truth here?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

One of Kantrip's messages hinted at the existence of a Tracking ability by stating that nobody visited Kary. Nobody has claimed to have any such ability except FiE.

 

[Orboknown]

Solid point.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Also note that the message about nobody visiting Kary was revealed to you by Rake who is confirmed town so it's definitely not fake.

 

[Orboknown]

I feel like thats indicative of a watcherthan tracker but aight

 

[Orboknown]

Yeah i do t doubt the message bring true. Just kinda...idk. See my above

 

[Orboknown]

What was the message from last night again??

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I received a message telling that Kantrip does not carry any items. Since that also hints at a role that has already been claimed I'm going to assume that the content of the messages is accurate.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I received a message telling that Kantrip does not carry any items. Since that also hints at a role that has already been claimed I'm going to assume that the content of the messages is accurate.

With Glyph's items being stolen last night as he said, wouldn't this make Kary the primary suspect. Since Kantrip has no items he couldn't possibly steal anything.

 

[Kantrip]

One of Kantrip's messages hinted at the existence of a Tracking ability by stating that nobody visited Kary. Nobody has claimed to have any such ability except FiE.

How does that message hint at the existence of a Tracking role, exactly?

I'm inclined to believe Glyphs claim because of how out-there it is. The bread and crystal are quite strange to claim randomly.

I dislike there being a JoaT and an Inventor, and I dislike that FiE hasn't used anything. His play leaves much to be desired, too.

I don't even know. I want Bardull's flip.

 

[Kantrip]

Scum inventor is possible of course, and the items being stolen is mighty convenient, but the claimed inventions are more town sided.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

How does that message hint at the existence of a Tracking role, exactly?

What else do you think it could be hinting at?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

This may be seem to be a bit of a short-sighted way of looking at things but who thinks that the JoaT and the Inventor are actually both town?

Well, Glyph's is a Day ability, right? You received a gun during Day 1? In that sense they don't exactly overlap.

That being said, I really don't like Fie's claim. It's just.... blegh. For one thing he apparently didn't read his role PM. Then why is a sword a JoaT - am I missing something? I don't know.

@ Fire Emblemier why did you choose not to use any of your abilities up until now?

With Glyph's items being stolen last night as he said, wouldn't this make Kary the primary suspect. Since Kantrip has no items he couldn't possibly steal anything.

uhh what?
Firstly, Kantrip sent the message saying he had no items.... unless you have a good reason to take his word for it. Then I don't see why it makes me more suspect than, say, Orbo?

One of Kantrip's messages hinted at the existence of a Tracking ability by stating that nobody visited Kary. Nobody has claimed to have any such ability except FiE.

No, no-one visiting me implies Kanty's role is sometimes a watcher. It doesn't say anything about a tracker at all.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Kary I want you to claim as well. Like actually claim.

You are the last person I expected to hear this from.

That being said, I don't want to hold up the game unnecessarily.

I'm Bayonetta having a cup of tea on her day off, town tea party host. To all intents and purposes I'm a VT.
I have a passive ability that lets me host a tea party when certain conditions are met. That's all I'm going to say for the time being.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Im still confused as to why Rake was shot. Anyone has a good answer let me know.

In the meantime, ignoring this game for a day because it's christmas.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Well, Glyph's is a Day ability, right? You received a gun during Day 1? In that sense they don't exactly overlap.

That being said, I really don't like Fie's claim. It's just.... blegh. For one thing he apparently didn't read his role PM. Then why is a sword a JoaT - am I missing something? I don't know.

@ Fire Emblemier why did you choose not to use any of your abilities up until now?



uhh what?
Firstly, Kantrip sent the message saying he had no items.... unless you have a good reason to take his word for it. Then I don't see why it makes me more suspect than, say, Orbo?



No, no-one visiting me implies Kanty's role is sometimes a watcher. It doesn't say anything about a tracker at all.

Well since they were all one use, I wanted to be certain that my action would be helpful rather than waste it. I was debating whether to protect Gheb last night, but by how today went, I was right not to use it.

Isn't Orbo confirmed Town due to being a neighbor like Rake.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Neighbors are players that can speak to each other. Unlike Masons, there is no guarantee made of any Neighbor's alignment. It is up to the moderator's discretion whether they can only speak to each other at night, or at day as well.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Kary, do you think there's a chance Glyph and FiE are both town?

 

[Orboknown]

Gheb whod ya want more between kantrip and kary?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'll answer that later ... maybe.

 

[Orboknown]

:/
Guess that aint worthhaggling over

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Kary, do you think there's a chance Glyph and FiE are both town?

really, what the **** is this question.

Of course there is a chance that they're both town. There is always a chance.

I've already expressed the opinion that Glyph is likely town (#847), which is more or less a product of his role. Fie on the other hand, I have a feeling that he's scum but I'm not that confident on it.

Do I think there's any particular reason why they both cannot be town? No. I don't remember any notable interactions between them, and I'm not convinced by any mod meta about their roles.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Fie could have proved his JoaT claim if he tracked Kantrip last Night and claimed where he went.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Do I think there's any particular reason why they both cannot be town? No. I don't remember any notable interactions between them, and I'm not convinced by any mod meta about their roles.

That's what I was getting at but I worded it poorly.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

At this point I'm just PoE'ing the remaining slots of the game to find scum but I find it hard to get anywhere. Without Bardull's flip this just feels like Day 1.3 to me and neither Joey's flip, nor any of the NKs gave us anything to work with.

I wanna say that I find Orbo to be the most suspicious player for various reasons. I'm strongly considering lynching him toDay and would like to hear other people's opinions on it.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Actually, I think a no lynch might be our best play here. Here me out.

Glyph's crystal lets whoever is holding it investigate a player if they die, right? @ ~ Gheb ~ can you confirm?

That would mean if we no lynch, Gheb dying would give us a cop result. We can have Fie use his 'heal' on Glyph. And because of the way my role works, if scum try and kill me, I'll still get to have my tea party before I die.

That would mean scum would have to kill within Orbo/Kantrip/Fie, and we can lynch whichever two are left alive, right?

Thoughts?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Actually, if Fie is scum, he can shoot Glyph and it would still leave us choosing between Orbo/Kanty if there is a second scum :/

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Actually, I think a no lynch might be our best play here. Here me out.

Glyph's crystal lets whoever is holding it investigate a player if they die, right? @ ~ Gheb ~ can you confirm?

That would mean if we no lynch, Gheb dying would give us a cop result. We can have Fie use his 'heal' on Glyph. And because of the way my role works, if scum try and kill me, I'll still get to have my tea party before I die.

That would mean scum would have to kill within Orbo/Kantrip/Fie, and we can lynch whichever two are left alive, right?

Thoughts?

I thought the crystal would simply allow the player using it to reveal a janned corpse.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Another thing that should be pointed out is that somebody must be lying about their claim. Glyph said that somebody took two items away from him which I recall were the piece of bread and the crystal. This leads to few possibilities to think about:

Glyph could be lying. It's quite unlikely though because Glyph handed a gun to me so it's obvious that he has the ability that he has claimed to have and it seems pretty pointless to lie about having an item as obscure as a piece of bread. The only game that item ever actually appeared in dGames history was my G3S#2 game where I implemented the famine mechanic. It's possible that Ryu added this item as a red herring because if this game had a famine mechanic we would know by now. So to all intents an purposes we can assume for the time being that Glyph's role claim is probably accurate.

So who stole his items? Nobody claimed to have the ability to steal items so if we assume once again that Glyph is telling the truth about having had those items, the one who took them is most certainly not town as he would've claimed to be able to steal things. What seems pretty safe to assume for now is that we're looking for a mafia thief. Either that or Glyph is lying.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

You guys have misunderstood how the crystal works. If the player holding it dies, specifically by a NK, then after the fact they are allowed to have the role and alignment of another living player checked. They still die, and from the wording I gather that the checked player's stuff would be posted in thread the next day.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Isn't that what Kary said though?

In either case I think it's safe to assume that there's an anti-town thief in the game that isn't Glyph [proven Inventor], Kantrip [proven messenger] or Gheb [proven doublevoter]. Could be anybody between Orbo, Kary and FiE though.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I like the idea of a no lynch, it gives us more info from night actions and scum has one less kill to work with to win.