Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

[Inferno3044]

EBWOP: Oh and make it sound semi-convincing.

 

[Dabuz]

Easy way to be the opposite of disrespectful: Call me a smart and good player :3

 

[#HBC | J]

Sounds simple enough haha. ^^

Well let's at least try to prove the posting restriction. According to your word, you can't show respect towards anybody or you will be voteblocked for 12 hours. Luckily, since we have quite a bit of time until deadline, we can test this. J, I want your next post to have the following:

Show an obnoxious amount of respect for me
Have nothing negative towards anyone
Vote someone who isn't me or Dabuz (don't want a quick hammer on him)
Request the vote count

Inferno, you are by far one of the newest players of DGames I actually do like playing with because you are fun to play with and you keep a level head while playing. I remember reading a game where you did extremely well and I was on the sidelines rooting for ya because I thought it was cool to see a newer player like you dominating. The way you hold yourself in games does show a somewhat good grasp of confidence that other players seem to lack and you definitely have a grasp of the game regardless of the flavour or the playerlist. I really do hope to continue playing with you in games in the future! =D

I really don't like being this negative/disrespectful to everyone and I plan on apologizing personally to everyone after this game is done and over with. Especially players I feel I have been harsh towards, like Zen/Glyph/TAWNN to name a few. =/

Unvote
Vote: The Account With No Name

@Mod: Request Vote Count please

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

J has been knocked down.

 

[Gova]

2. dtjglyphmoney ()
3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name (1) J
7. Inferno ()
8. Circus ()
9. Dabunz (2) AM, Gheb
10. J (2) Glyph, Circus
13. Gheb ()

Not voting - Inferno, dabuz, TAWNN

With 8 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is set for May 8th at 11:59 CST (GMT-6).

 

[Circus]

Glyph, just curious, who's scum if J isn't? Would you go for Dabuz next or someone else?

Also, why did anyone even care about testing J's restriction (which seems to not be real unless there's some miscommunication between Ryker and Gova)?

 

[#HBC | J]

Of course its real. I can't move my vote now for 12 hours as of Ryker's post. They cared of testing my restriction because its a variable and it was Glyph's last reasoning for trying to suspect me and tried to call me out on it and well looky who was right.

 

[#HBC | J]

Easy way to be the opposite of disrespectful: Call me a smart and good player :3

You, instead of making joke posts, make actual rebuttals as to why people shouldn't lynch you.

 

[#HBC | J]

I am getting a severe migraine at how blatant TAWNN is avoiding the thread now that they are not even in fire or even doing anything with regards to the Dabuz or J wagons. They are just floating and need to get gone.

Especially moreso that I keep seeing them viewing on the hydra account.

Death needs to befall that slot.

 

[Circus]

Of course its real. I can't move my vote now for 12 hours as of Ryker's post.

Oh, I thought your punishment was that you lost your voting ability. My bad.

I am getting a severe migraine at how blatant TAWNN is avoiding the thread now that they are not even in fire or even doing anything with regards to the Dabuz or J wagons. They are just floating and need to get gone.

This is bothering me too.

Unvote

Vote: The Account With No Name

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

J has been knocked down.

Feeling a thousand times better about J after this. Getting knocked down is ... something in yomi. I don't really know what. I still don't want him alive in lylo, but he's good for at least today.

WHICH MEANS

Dabuz is the next on my list. With my feelings towards J becoming much less murderesque I can see the points against TAWNN as much more believable as well, but I'd still take Dabuz first.

unvote vote Dabuz

 

[Inferno3044]

Sounds simple enough haha. ^^



Inferno, you are by far one of the newest players of DGames I actually do like playing with because you are fun to play with and you keep a level head while playing. I remember reading a game where you did extremely well and I was on the sidelines rooting for ya because I thought it was cool to see a newer player like you dominating. The way you hold yourself in games does show a somewhat good grasp of confidence that other players seem to lack and you definitely have a grasp of the game regardless of the flavour or the playerlist. I really do hope to continue playing with you in games in the future! =D

I really don't like being this negative/disrespectful to everyone and I plan on apologizing personally to everyone after this game is done and over with. Especially players I feel I have been harsh towards, like Zen/Glyph/TAWNN to name a few. =/

Unvote
Vote: The Account With No Name

@Mod: Request Vote Count please

Well that confirms it. Also this was a really nice ego boost . Anyways this disproves glyph's attempt to lynch. Probably should've asked you to vote in a separate post but ryker's announcement if proof enough of the restriction.

vote: dabuz

 

[Dabuz]

Re-reading atm and gonna get a post up. Saying this because I'm at L-1.

 

[Dabuz]

J's posting restriction comes off to me as a red herring, so it's useless to base any reads off of it.

Looking back at the last Day, both S-Tier and Zap were hard on getting a J lynch. S-Tier got lynched for being dumb, and now Zap is dead, Zap would have most likely pushed J toDay so it makes me look at J with suspicion.

@Inferno: Sorry if I missed this in my reading, but what do you think of J now? YesterDay you said the interaction between J and S-Tier doesn't look TvT (1871), I want to know if this still holds up for you.

@AM: Sorry if I missed this in my reading, but in your 1892 you say if S-Tier flips town you will lynch J, what makes you vote me over him?

BTW, TAWNN stated extremely early in this game that he leaves his tab open on this thread very often but forgets about or something, I forget why, but it isn't a scumtell on him.

Another note, I don't feel too good about the Allegory / Inferno slot. 1205 is Zap's case on Allegory, which holds up now that Soup~ flipped scum. The play for Inferno since he replaced in has been very, how do I put it, hard to notice? I feel like he has been playing super safe this game and has been laying low, commenting on unimportant things, which has allowed him to blend in. Since I'm suuuuuper lazy and don't' feel like analyzing posts, I just quoted EVERY post since Inferno joined in from that slot, I was unable to find him posting anything relevant or being helpful to town. Also, I saw Gheb's case on Inferno as I was going through Inferno's posts. Gheb is town.

Okay so im in this game now and will do some reading later tonight (have something important soon that I can't miss). Zapp and swiss can you give me a basic runthrough of what's happened so far? I would be very appreciative.

J, where would be a nice place for to start reading? I'd rather go straight to reading serious posts unless you think anything in the RVS stage was important.

vote: s-tier

Explanation when im not on my phone.

I think Dabuz not voting either is stronger evidence and would convince me even more to vote Dabuz.

I'm making a long-story short on S-Tier for now. If you guys want me to make a case I will, but with Dabuz currently on the hot seat I was planning on waiting. I read D1 and skimmed D2 because D2 looked like everyone unanimously wanting Soup lynched. But all in all I saw his play as very grimy. I don't care what reason he had for it but he was deflecting questions asked at him left and right and played very anti-town overall. On top of that look at who died N1. Red Ryu, a vigilante who lost his ability to shoot if he shot town. First of all, Red Ryu as a player nor his role was warranted for scum to want to kill him immediately and his play gave me a slight town lean at best. There were stronger and townier players than him. The only reason to kill him would be because scum was afraid that he would shoot right. After Shining Force 2 mafia, RR developed a personal vendetta against Zen and I feel like RR would've definitely shot him personally. Especially with S-Tier's daycop gambit.

As I said, if you want me to form a case on S-Tier I will, but for now I wanna see what's gonna happen to Dabuz. I originally thought of him as scummy for not voting Spidermang and his interaction with him, but I felt some honest posts come from him and I'm currently on the fence.

Fine. You were a town read of mine throughout my read so I'll trust you on this one. However I won't vote Dabuz until I see a vote count. I think that's pretty fair.

Speaking of this, I've been wondering something as well. Does anyone have any idea what Spidermang/Soup's roles actually are?

Dabuz why are you making this so difficult? We are asking for a claim and you just spout AtE bull****. I'm getting very tempted to hammer.

S-Tier, why do you keep throwing your vote in every direction? I don't like it.

It might just be a personal thing, but I'm not a fan of people throwing their vote in every direction. I feel like voting is the clearest way of showing who you think is scum and where your head is. When someone's vote is repeatedly moving I see it as "Oh look at him he's real scummy. But wait so is he. What about that guy?" so on and so forth. I think it's just a personal thing is me though.

Never thought of it like that. Might use it in other games. Anyways Zapp help me out a bit. Do you see a possible TvS between J and S-Tier? Overall I felt something weird between the two of them and I just thought S-Tier's play overall was scummier.



Wait wtf? Soup was scum. I wouldn't consider lynching scum twice in a row a bad thing. Please explain what you meant by the Soup lynch was bad.

S-Tier get your role PM and tell us what your role is called and what it does. Would highly appreciate it.

I did. You explained what the dreamer role was and said your role was similar. Similar implies that its not exactly the same. So what are the differences between your role and a dreamer?

J im curious on something. What's your posting restriction? I remember you stating that it is affecting how you post and I want to know how.

Right now I am all for this idea. I haven't seen anything between them that is TvT.

Vote:s-tier

Your dream thing makes no sense, especially with your N2 results. First you get Zapp, AM, and J. That has some legitimacy. 3 players in this game. There's a possibility of an anti-town faction in those. But then you get WL, Ryker, and Allegory. That consists of half of a hydra, the mod, and someone that got replaced out before that could happen. I'm willing to wait for you to get your role PM back if that will possibly clear up some things.

Unvote

I have to rethink some things and also being nice to S-Tier for now.

Hey so random question because my memory sucks: Did Spidermang or Soup claim?

I agree with this. We have both S-Tier and J doing things that appear scummy to others. Lynching Dabuz today would only delay the problem.

So should I hammer or wait for Gheb to read up?

Feel free to ask me any questions that will help clarify anything. Circus or anyone else can do the same.

With a townZen flip J looks pretty scummy and might be the play for today. Something about TAWNN yesterday rubbed me the wrong way and I thin there's a chance of him being scum. I also feel like Dabuz needs to die before lylo.

Currently satisfied with Circus's playing. Although I wouldn't have opposed a GLG lynch due to inactivity, I like the steps that Circus has taken and I want him to live for now. I might have my eye on him a bit just to see where his head is/make sure he's town.

Gheb do you think im scum or null? You don't think im brownie townie but nothing you said states that im scum.

AM what do you think of a mass claim? With 8 people alive and 1-2 scum left I think it's pretty helpful.

Wait you claimed J? Memory is going bad. I remember your restriction but I don't remember your role. Mind restating it?

Gheb why have you targeted me for being null but not circus?

I didn't even know there was one. Also Dabuz doesn't sound like a bad choice. I don't know his vote count though.

J just curious, do you have any idea if breaking your restriction will be stated?

Well let's at least try to prove the posting restriction. According to your word, you can't show respect towards anybody or you will be voteblocked for 12 hours. Luckily, since we have quite a bit of time until deadline, we can test this. J, I want your next post to have the following:

Show an obnoxious amount of respect for me
Have nothing negative towards anyone
Vote someone who isn't me or Dabuz (don't want a quick hammer on him)
Request the vote count

EBWOP: Oh and make it sound semi-convincing.

Well that confirms it. Also this was a really nice ego boost . Anyways this disproves glyph's attempt to lynch. Probably should've asked you to vote in a separate post but ryker's announcement if proof enough of the restriction.

vote: dabuz

Right now, I would put AM as town because he has been pushing his reads and slots this whole game and hasn't given me anything to perceive as scummy, AND IIRC he helped lynch scum both days. I also don't see any connections between him and the flipped scum.

Gheb is town because he has been pushing his own reads since he replaced in and has very solid analysis's.

TAWNN is a town-read to me as well. He has had some excellent posts and some posts that are terrible, but he has been open enough for me to always have an idea of what he is thinking. On my skimming, I saw him pressure Spidey really early, too early to be a bus, so it looks like honest Town pressuring scum to me. I don't see any connection between him and Soup.

Glyph is a town-lean for pretty much the same reasons as Gheb. I do need to read Glyph more in depth however, I don't expect my opinion of him to change much.

Circus is null because he just replaced in and his slot didn't give much to go off of. TBH I should probably read the slot again.

J is null. I'm having trouble reading his slot now. I want to say scum on a gut feeling, but can't find conclusive reasoning to nail him as scum.

Already stated why I think Inferno is scum.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

@AM: Sorry if I missed this in my reading, but in your 1892 you say if S-Tier flips town you will lynch J, what makes you vote me over him?

Thinking it over and realizing that you're eons scummier.

So you literally only have ONE direction this game, and it's the direction that somebody gave out. Cuz tbh that read's from left field mang, and I have a hard time believing that in the hour time slot you did a total of reading back through most of the thread, realizing that Inferno's scum, and type up that entire post.

 

[Dabuz]

So? I saw Zap's case on Allegory as I was re-reading through my wordpad note sheet (Which covers approx. up until page 40 of this thread on 40PPP), realized it has good points and that everyone seemed to forget about it. This made me want to look at Inferno since he replaced in for Allegory. Inferno's posting habits seemed scummy to me once I decided to look at him. Now you're just trying to find any and all justification to lynch me on your unchangeable view that I am scum.

It's actually NOT from left field because I told Zap that if Soup flipped scum, I would like at Zap's case on Allegory because Zap's case is all connections based on Soupscum.

 

[#HBC | J]

BTW, TAWNN stated extremely early in this game that he leaves his tab open on this thread very often but forgets about or something, I forget why, but it isn't a scumtell on him.

People and reading this game....my word...

I didn't say that was why I felt he was scummy, I said it just moreso annoyed me that I saw them. However, the fact is, they are not posting whatsoever in the day phase and continuing to lurk in the shadows because it seems to be on purpose. They aren't getting involved in the discussion this game anymore and they have had more than a couple of days to get in it. Plus neither of the two in that hydra have announced V/LA and have been posting elsewhere yet they won't post a single read or an opinion toDay?

I also agree with AM that your case on Inferno just seems like you are trying to push your way through a small gate that Gheb had re-opened toDay. Yet, in the beginning half of the post, you continue to question people about me and how you are wondering why people aren't voting me. Its like you wanna say I'm scum but its dancing on your tongue and not coming out.

Also how is my role a red herring if the mod just confirmed it does something to me...?

 

[The Account With No Name]

Uh, yeah, sorry for my absence in the thread, but my will to post and read has dropped incredibly. I'll see what I can do today.

One thing I noticed while scrolling down though:

 

[#HBC | J]

Reposting this:

TAWNB, however, has slipped far in terms of my read on him. He is different from Glyph, whereas, he(Glyph) is explaining his actions and also making things clear as to why he is doing certain things and actually pushing his opinion, TAWNN have been leaving back-doors open all day with leaving every single door of S-tier/J/Dabuz and not really looking for ways to shut them off or actually scum-hunt on the slots. He has just followed the flow with toDay's actions and it really becomes highly evident when looking at how he goes from dabuz>J>S-tier in literal order of how town feels the day phase should go. When asked to provide reasoning, he almost literally copy-pasta's someone else's reasoning and goes with that. His town posts from me come from him logic but when dealing with their scum-hunting/pressure there is almost a lack of it whatsoever when they have been taken out of the day-phase. I feel I have been moreso excusing them for their little scummy things here and there due to the fact that have some good posts that contain good logic, however, enough is enough with D3 in terms of them for me and I will be glad to see them gone now. My gut from earlier of them being a headache has continued and I will most likely be going over their slot yet again. I hat this slot to absolute lengths. However, I feel moreso they have earned themselves enough scum-points to die.

 

[The Account With No Name]

Ignore that list thing, that was silly.

 

[The Account With No Name]

._. list = last

 

[~ Gheb ~]

In addition to what's been said about Dabuz, this paragraph really bugs me:

J's posting restriction comes off to me as a red herring, so it's useless to base any reads off of it.

Looking back at the last Day, both S-Tier and Zap were hard on getting a J lynch. S-Tier got lynched for being dumb, and now Zap is dead, Zap would have most likely pushed J toDay so it makes me look at J with suspicion.[/SIZE]

Am I the only one who reads that as a super transparent scum-move?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

V/LA until sunday

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Wow @Gheb I didn't even notice that...

 

[~ Gheb ~]

In case it's unclear, I'm talking about a scum move on dabuz' part ...

 

[#HBC | J]

Alright listen up, I'm going to be hammering in a half hour or so now that I have my vote back.

So yeah.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Completely fine with that

 

[#HBC | J]

Unvote
Vote: dabuz

Double the hammer, double the power.

Back to back hammering is so cool.

 

[Gova]

2. dtjglyphmoney ()
3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name (1) Circus
7. Inferno ()
8. Circus ()
9. Dabunz (5) AM, Gheb, Glyph, Inferno, J
10. J ()
13. Gheb ()

Not voting - dabuz, TAWNN

A lynch has been reached!

No more posting.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

He thought he was the best, that they'd never catch him, but then he tried the BC3 shortcut. It was a terrible mistake.

Dabuz, Ryker Playing Mario Kart Wii, Vanilla Townie has been lynched.

Night 4 is go. Deadline is set for May 6th at 11:59PM CST.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I've run the numbers, my survival is assured. There's no way these reckless radians could possibly figure out my game. I'll keep an equal number on both sides of the equation and in the end, my art will shine no matter who is greater than.

Wait! You!? This is impossible. Why didn't I solve for this? Dammit, I thought I was a prime number, but in the end, I was simply another mediocre multiple.

Glyph, the Ryker Half of Aggressive Mediation, Independent Gambler, has been killed.

Day 5 is go. Deadline is set for May 13th at 11:59PM CST.

 

[Gova]

3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
7. Inferno ()
8. Circus ()
10. J ()
13. Gheb ()

Not voting - TAWNN, AM, Gheb, Inferno, J, Circus

With 6 playing, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is May 13th at 11:59PM CST (GMT-6).

 

[The Account With No Name]

Well look at that, Cliff was the Indy.

Talk to me, J.

 

[Inferno3044]

Im not surprised Glyph was scum. He was someone I didn't want in the long run. Especially with his coasting.

Anyways with 6 left I propose a mass claim. Here is my personal choice order:

TAWNN
Circus
Gheb
Inferno
AM

If nobody objects I propose we start. What do you think AM

 

[Dabuz]

Go town. *Waves flag*

 

[Circus]

Nice. Glyph's flip actually clears up a fair amount of confusion for me.

@Inferno: To be honest, I would prefer to have both you and Gheb ahead of me on that list. But I realize I'm not in much of a position to argue for that. Would you be against going before me for any particular reason?

@J: You sure dodged a bullet there. Who's scum?

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Man am I mind****ed atm.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

At the moment, the only two people I'm really any comfortable with is Circus and Inferno. As far as a massclaim, I'm thinking the following:

TAWNN
GBizzle
Inferno/Circus
AM

Sorry, but who did Circus and Gheb replace again?

 

[Circus]

I replaced GLG. Gheb replaced Swiss, I believe.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Right, right. K, either J, GBizzle or TAWNN toDay. Need to talk to my equally attractive other half.