Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

[Aggressive Mediation]

Actually, Circus, watchu thinking, since you're here and whatnot?

 

[Gova]

3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
7. Inferno ()
8. Circus ()
10. J ()
13. Gheb ()

Not voting - TAWNN, AM, Gheb, Inferno, J, Circus

With 6 playing, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is May 13th at 11:59PM CST (GMT-6).

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Or... not.

 

[Circus]

Sorry. I went to go make some cheesy bread and the boards logged me out for taking too long.

I pretty much agree with you.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

It was for the best

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Don't have a lot of time to post but I'll claim now since I can agree with a massclaim.

I'm "Ryker, AFKing as Lilith in Borderlands". I was a one shot BP but the night before I repalced in Swiss got shot at [hence no NK that Night phase].

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Not sure what to think of J atm considering Zen is notorious for BS gambits, Glyph was scum and I'm not too fond of AM. I'm 50/50 on a bunch of people right now, except Inferno and Circus whom I'm slighty leaning scum and town respcetively.

 

[The Account With No Name]

Right, well, I support a mass-claim.

I am The Ryker-half of tHe-Man. I've got no special powers AKA vanilla.

 

[Circus]

Don't have a lot of time to post but I'll claim now since I can agree with a massclaim.

I'm "Ryker, AFKing as Lilith in Borderlands". I was a one shot BP but the night before I repalced in Swiss got shot at [hence no NK that Night phase].

Really? Damn. I was hoping we had a Jailer or something.

I might need to reevaluate my AM read.

I'll just say I'm Ryker playing Ezreal, the Prodigal Explorer. I have the ability to track people. If it's all the same to everyone, I'd like to hold off my Night results until after Inferno and AM claim.

 

[#HBC | J]

Maaaan Glyph being scum is sweetness. Especially because he was showing his true nature yesterDay.

Still wanna lynch TAWNN badly.

 

[Inferno3044]

Really? Damn. I was hoping we had a Jailer or something.

I might need to reevaluate my AM read.

I'll just say I'm Ryker playing Ezreal, the Prodigal Explorer. I have the ability to track people. If it's all the same to everyone, I'd like to hold off my Night results until after Inferno and AM claim.

Im fine with you showing your results after the full claim.

Anyways im Ryker the skype call host. VT.

You're up AM.

 

[#HBC | J]

Well look at that, Cliff was the Indy.

Talk to me, J.

You need to read because I've already been talking to you but you've been ignoring me, scum.

@J: You sure dodged a bullet there. Who's scum?

TAWNN. Look at something that happened yesterDay. As soon as we were all set to lynch dabuz, but people were also starting to get suspicion out of TAWNN *You and I* and voted him, he comes into the thread to not do anything but just make it known that he is still in the game. He didn't adresse anything nor make a stance on what should have been going on but just fluff posts.

Btw, its fine of you to just out your results after AM claims.

Vote: The Account With No Name

Because that is where my vote is going and where it just is not moving whatsoever. People just need to listen to me already.

 

[#HBC | J]

J - VT, with restriction
Inferno - VT
Gheb - 1-shot BP
Circus - Tracker
TAWNN - Mafia VT
AM -

 

[Inferno3044]

As a side note I find it very funny that 2 people in this game (Swiss and AM) were both scum roles.

 

[#HBC | J]

There's actually a funnier note, Inferno. But let me spell it out for you.

Might as well claim.

The Ryker half of Erupting Burning Ryker, Vanilla Townie.

We are back-up.

Back-up what? I don't know. We are the Ryker half of RadFic

Pointing this out due to too much of a similiarity with the roles being claimed at the moment. Both Soup/Bugboy claimed Ryker half of a certain hydra that Ryker is involved in as their safe-claim.

Glyph, the Ryker Half of Aggressive Mediation, Independent Gambler, has been killed.

Because it seems like a commonality that has a lot of evidence to back it up with what has been said so far. I mean it is somewhat a guess based on what has happened but its just so....blatant.

Using Occam's Razor though.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

From a mod's PoV that's exactly the kind of thing I would add on purpose to throw people off. In fact I'd even go as far as to think that it supports TAWNN-town more than it incriminates them.

But I feel like it's better to just wait for the remaining claims before I try to make up my mind.

 

[Inferno3044]

Well only AM is left. Once he claims then Circus can share his results. Also Graves > Ezreal.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

For the record, further League of Legends conversation that I disagree with will lead to mod votes (Read: Mod votes, not FOOL votes) for said player. Test me.

 

[#HBC | J]

Welp, seems I'm safe from that dumb rule. I don't know anything about that game nor do I really care too.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Sorry, don't have a lot of time to dedicate to this game for at least the next few days. Hopefully my other half will step up, but I will chime in with my claim.

We're Ryker Playing Blazblue, Town Bus Driver.

 

[Inferno3044]

Care to share your targets for each night AM?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'd also like to hear your targets but I'm even more curious about Circus' results.

 

[The Account With No Name]

I'd rather head Circus's resulsts before AM tells us who he targeted.

 

[The Account With No Name]

head = have

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm trusting Circus a lot more than AM right now so I'd like to hear AMs results first.

 

[#HBC | J]

Bus driver claims make my stomach churn with distaste.

 

[Circus]

I'm trusting Circus a lot more than AM right now so I'd like to hear AMs results first.

Thanks, I'm thinking the same thing. Especially considering AM's ability could have directly impacted my results without me knowing it.

Bus Driver's an interesting claim. It would be really, really difficult to fake, but it's far from being a confirmed town role.

AM, would you mind giving your results before I give mine?

 

[#HBC | J]

Man this game is annoying for me who has already claimed on like D1/D3 pretty much.

People should shoot out some scum-reads that are more concrete then "I'm okay with 3 people going" when that's half the player list. My opinion is known so chop-chop.

We can multi-task, people.

 

[Circus]

It's tough to have concrete scum reads now when some people that I may have psuedo cleared on Night actions could be invalidated by something AM did. Sorry to stall the line, but this is important.

 

[#HBC | J]

*sigh*

This is lame because this is like the one game I am 100% invested into. Especially because I have been so on the money this game.

 

[#HBC | J]

Anyone besides Circus can still give reads though. *grumble*

 

[Inferno3044]

Gonna throw some obvious things out there:

Gheb is basically cleared town. There's no protective role like a doc and his BP was used up.
Until proven otherwise, I'm also gonna call Circus town as he is the only investigative role.
Assuming Circus isn't lying, AM is the only one remaining that he could've tracked which would show a result. Circus can possibly end the game. Circus I'm assuming you have GLG's track targets as well.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Inferno, even though it's obvious you should've kept quiet about Circus / myself being basically cleared. Posts like that bug the hell out of me and I still don't like your slot one bit.

 

[Inferno3044]

Inferno, even though it's obvious you should've kept quiet about Circus / myself being basically cleared. Posts like that bug the hell out of me and I still don't like your slot one bit.

It's not like scum is completely idiotic. Anyways my hopes are for Circus to end it today, but I guess we will wait for AM.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

N1 Switch: Soup and STier.
N2 Switch: STier and Swiss.
N3 Switch: Dabuz and Zapp.
N4 Switch: Tbh I'd need to ask Laundry. We discussed switching J and Circus, but that was before Night began and I didn't send in anything via PM, and apparently neither did he. Idk if he decided something different but it SHOULD have been J and Circus.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Can't really go into detail, gotta run, if Laundry doesn't doesn't take initiative with this slot then it's gonna be inactive for a few days. Once the weekend hits Gorf should be much better on track.

 

[#HBC | J]

Welp, Ghebbo's cleared.

And wait a second, because of AM, Zapp died>dabuz for the NK if I have the things correct....da heck?

*taps foot impatiently for Circus*

 

[Circus]

Circus I'm assuming you have GLG's track targets as well.

Yes, I do.

N1 Switch: Soup and STier.

Worth noting: Seeing Soup targeted on N1 supports the idea that AM could be Mafia Bus Driver, as this was the only Night in which scumAM would have been able to use his ability in a way that could potentially protect Soup, his only scummate left alive at the time.

N2 Switch: STier and Swiss.

So the Night that Gheb's slot was shot was actually the Night that scum was trying to kill S-Tier? Interesting.

If AM is scum, then I don't quite know how this works, as he would have been the only scum left alive on this Night. Did he Switch S-Tier and Swiss, then target S-Tier to make sure he got Swiss? Hm. Maybe he didn't actually Switch anyone.

So, N1 and N2, GLG tracked J both times. This initially lead me to believe that J was probably not mafia since he apparently did nothing on either Night, which falls in line with his VT claim, and also proves that if he were mafia then he at least wasn't the one making kills on N1 (it would have had to be Soup). But N2 is a little tricky to analyze. I saw J do nothing, but since the kill on N2 was stopped, I'm not really sure what that means. Mafia wasn't roleblocked, so I think I should still have "seen" J visit Swiss/Gheb on N2 if he had been the last maf even if his action hadn't been fully resolved, but I don't know if Ryker would make the same choices as mod that I would.

Right now, based on the results and what I've seen of his play, I'm pretty good with J now.

N3 Switch: Dabuz and Zapp.

Now this part's weird. If this is true, then that means that the Night scum ended up killing Zapp, they were actually trying to kill Dabuz. That makes no ****ing sense. And it kind of tweaks my results from N3.

N3, I tracked Glyph and saw that he had visited Dabuz. This confirmed to me that Glyph was not mafia. At the time, since we still hadn't seen an explanation about the lack of death on N2, and already saw Zapp flip a role that I'm assuming corresponds to Cop, I was kind of thinking Glyph might have been a Jailer or something (couldn't be Doc, because what kind of Doc would protect Dabuz?). That's why I was really confused when Glyph decided to switch to Dabuz for the lynch. Gambler flip solves that little mystery.

However, if AM did what he claims to have done on N3, then that means that Glyph was trying to target Zapp that Night but got Dabuz instead, and Zapp died. Weird weird weird. I don't know exactly what Ryker's Gambler does, and there's no official page for it on MafiaScum or anything, but I'm under the impression that Gambler is a role that tries to guess the player that is going to get lynched the following Day. Wincon would be guessing correctly X number of times. Why would Glyph have targeted Zapp? Maybe people who have been in this game longer have a different perception of the slot than I do, but while I was rereading, Zapp definitely didn't look like a player that was going to be lynched any time soon. This Night looks really jacked up to me. Again, if AM is scum, maybe he actually stopped Switching after N1.

N4 Switch: Tbh I'd need to ask Laundry. We discussed switching J and Circus, but that was before Night began and I didn't send in anything via PM, and apparently neither did he. Idk if he decided something different but it SHOULD have been J and Circus.

If you could get confirmation from either Washed or Ryker on this, that'd be swell. Though it just affects players targeted by Night Actions, right? Just because you switched me with J doesn't mean that my PR was tampered with (unless I had decided to track J. That would have been weird).

On N4, I tracked The Account With No Name and saw him do nothing, which effectively eliminates him as a suspect, as much as I hate to say it. Unless AM's ability changed my target somehow (and I don't think that's how it works), the only way No Name could be the last maf at this point is if he's a Ninja. Definitely a possibility, but I see no evidence to support that theory other than my own gut telling me how much I dislike that slot.

Also worth noting that if we're right to think that Zapp was basically a Cop, then that means that this Town had a Cop, Tracker, and a Vigilante, with scum having a Back-Up player and a "Color Aficionado," which I assume does nothing substantive. Bus Driver would be a good way try to combat those roles in lieu of a Godfather/Roleblocker combo.

Vote: Aggressive Mediation

I'll have to get around to doing some more rereading at some point, but I'm pretty sure this is our best course of action. If I'm wrong, then I'm definitely dying toNight, and it's going to be nothing but the VT claims left in mylo with Gheb facilitating.

AM, ready when you are, bro.

 

[#HBC | J]

Question for Circus:

Why did you vote me D4 after replacing in when you already had 2 nights of me not going anywhere?

 

[Circus]

Because on N1 you could have just been the scum that didn't make the kill, and on N2, you could have become the scum that makes the kill, but roleblocked. Again, on D4, I was inferring that Glyph might have been a Jailer, so if he had reason to suspect you (like Jailing you N2), then that was something I was going to follow. Now that we know that it was just Gheb being a one-shot BP, the likelihood of you being the last scum seems pretty low, as that would mean that my N2 results would have to be kind of funky, and that the scum team in this game has no roles with any active abilities other than possibly "Color Aficionado." That's imbalanced considering the Town PRs we've seen so far and it makes a Mafia Back-Up seem really pointless.