Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

[zapp brannigan]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH GOOD LUCK BUDDY

I will get to you when I get to you.

What? Why don't you just get to me now?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

what? Why don't you just get to me now?

#140 9.

 

[S-Tier]

Did Soup already claim? cba to read the last few pages.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Yeah he claimed vt and said that he wouldn't fake claim a pr

 

[S-Tier]

What about flavor?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah he claimed vt and said that he wouldn't fake claim a pr

Die some more, please. A fire, would be nice.

I did not say that at all.

 

[S-Tier]

There's really no need to keep this day going. This is dumb.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

There's really no need to keep this day going. This is dumb.

This is not dumb at all.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Might as well claim.

The Ryker half of Erupting Burning Ryker, Vanilla Townie.

Claim.

I came into the thread seeing a pile-up on me and I started to skim back, I saw L-1 and as I was explaning and defending I decided to claim.



Not at all. I know people would be on me would I be PR or something dumb like that like I said it was just Assurance and Explanation.

Statement saying he claimed vt because he knew people would be on him if he claimed a PR.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I seen no reason not to claim at L-1, the thought behind the rest is null and the explanation was only put there to describe my situation.

I came into the thread seeing a pile-up on me and I started to skim back, I saw L-1 and as I was explaning and defending I decided to claim.



Not at all. I know people would be on me would I be PR or something dumb like that like I said it was just Assurance and Explanation.

Wrong again Zapp thanks for playing

 

[zapp brannigan]

There's really no need to keep this day going. This is dumb.

I agree. Soup is trying his hardest to survive and not get lynched.

 

[S-Tier]

It's good that you're continuing to fight for your faction. As Kuz said at the end of Gigabots, you should always continue to try. Though you pushing Zapp is hardly a believable push. If you really want to make an attempt at living, you should be focusing your attention on J, dabuz, Glyph, glg, Allegory. Not someone that is completely obv town. I can't tell if you genuinely believe you're not lynch worthy or if you're putting on a show, but I guess we can talk about that post game.

John, vote please.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's good that you're continuing to fight for your faction. As Kuz said at the end of Gigabots, you should always continue to try. Though you pushing Zapp is hardly a believable push. If you really want to make an attempt at living, you should be focusing your attention on J, dabuz, Glyph, glg, Allegory. Not someone that is completely obv town. I can't tell if you genuinely believe you're not lynch worthy or if you're putting on a show, but I guess we can talk about that post game.

John, vote please.

I'm lynch worthy, that's not what i'm defending, what i'm defending is this ****ty *** case from Zapp and their reasoning.

J - maybe
dabuz - maybe
Glyph - yes
GLG - no
Allegory - not yet

 

[zapp brannigan]

Why not yet on Allegory?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm open to other thought, I'm open to someone calling me scum, it's a common occurrence that happens all the time. I am not open to this dog**** Zapp is giving me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

why not yet on allegory?

#140 9

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm stepping out of the thread, I have no idea when I'll be back.

 

[Gova]

2. dtjglyphmoney ()
3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
6. Soup~ (3) AM, Zapp, S-Tier
7. Allegory ()
8. giraffelasergun (1) Allegory
9. Dabunz ()
10. J ()
11. Zapp Brannigan (1) Soup
12. S-Tier (1) Zapp
13. Swiss ()

Not voting - Glyph, GLG, Dabuz, J, Swiss, TAWNN

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is set for April 17th at 11:59 CST (GMT-6).

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Studying for a math test right now, but I'll be reading up on everything tonight and should be fully up to speed sometime tomorrow

 

[The Account With No Name]

Yeah, I'm not buying that until you show something for it.

I'd also be very much for a replacement for Glyph.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Yeah I agree man he prod dodging so hard. Glyph just vote Soup. End of story.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Btw Tawn can you revote Soup?

YEAH I called you tawn cuz I think your town.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Yeah I'm not going to do that. And I'm also not going to read this thread until I finish studying.

Really I should keep SWF closed entirely, but like that's going to happen

 

[Jim Morrison]

Vote: Dabuz

 

[The Account With No Name]

Btw Tawn can you revote Soup?

YEAH I called you tawn cuz I think your town.

Ummm.... Nah. Later, consider me willing to join in on him.

Vote: Dabuz

Hydra probs.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Alright I got ya.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Your first paragraph is really spot on and I enjoy seeing that from you, the second is a lot of derogatory opinion that has no barring on anything or not, could you explain why you felt that way?

I don't know. I accepted his behavior in the beginning of D1, since I thought he was pushing on slots for reads. But now that we have a reliable flip, a lot of his logic on who he is looking at is quite awful. I'm appalled why no one out is calling him out on it.

For example, I don't understand why Ranmaru is invested in a connection case from me to you. A logical reach case would run between "player x" and Spidermang, because the only confirmed information we have to work with is that Spidermang is confirmed mafia.

Another thing is him pushing on Glyph/Swiss for being an indie due to purely being inactive. I literally cannot grasp why he chose to push the game in this manner nor why he is so aggressively confident in your scum flip. Perhaps what kills me the most is his inflexibility and unwillingness. He appears to legitimately want you dead early today and isn't interesting in using today to explore other slots.

To put it in a nutshell, I haven't approached the actual points he has made. But if they involve a scum team between us, then he's looking in the wrong direction. And yes, I'm annoyed at him trying to quick lynch someone that I haven't even had the chance to read into or have an alignment tell on. My jimmies are rustled.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Hey Soup~, out of curiosity why were you overly concerned with Swiss in the beginning of the game? I'm literally in the middle of this response to Ranmaru and I see this in RVS.

I'm not ready to call it anything, nor am I ready to vote. I want to interact with Swiss on a more personal level before I conclude anything.

Ego aside, what else do you think that is giving you such an alarming thought about Swiss? I feel like you're jumping the gun. RVS aside.

Are you really that stupid?

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I forgot that Swiss had an italics related theme, so I thought the italics were some crumbs that Soup~ was using to substantiate his role if he was a power role. I stopped keeping track after awhile, but the ">" comments are the italicized ones that are addressed to Swiss IIRC. Masons, neighbors was my PR guess at the time.

6. Soup~ (masons with Swiss)

If Swiss dies, I would look into this slot. Some of the things that are italicized rub me off extremely in the wrong way.
> It begins
> Interact on a more intimate level.
> It seems like you've got a target on your head this game already
> It really shows a fake attitude towards him, almost that you fear him.

 

[Swiss]

OK, catchup, lets go.

GG SWISS RE.

K so meant to read from page 21?

No.

Maybe.

Forgot about Tier being a dbag. Town 'mirite?

Considering how Shining Force turned out.

Yes, 100% yes.

Who claimed daycop in SF?

Oh RR is town. K.

GG Swiss sheeping Tier. So inactive.

Do I eve have a read on J?

Extend if you can guys ill read in 16 hrs

GG.

I heard something about zen claiming Day Cop.

He's lying

Why

I don't know, why aren't we? This is why I quit EM, people imply things but they don't follow through, give explanation.

I like this. Could be...huh town tell.

Scrap that he flipped backup. Wait. Which backup version do people think he is?

Dabunz is town mang. But I must say I'm influenced by earlier posts he made.

Important

Spidey too sly in 903 to be bussing imo

J scum?

The fact i'm being pressured on a meta argument of what I would do as town is stupid, I'm not going to take back my words and I still want to hear from Zen, but of course I'm being ignored as always and apparently that just makes me scum of the earth.

I cannot empathize this more

It's like people are not even reading what I'm saying.

GG last line in italics so Swiss will like you.

S-tier, Soup's butthurt, is it a town-tell or a scum-flail?

Odd wording.

Xoni where the hell is your town read on dabuz coming from? I don't see your logic

Spoiler

/brann

Vote: J

GG TY

You're ascending.

Evolving.

Tier open Spidey defence

Deadline extension, meh. I didn't think I would need to announce it, but I'll be away from home for Friday & Saturday. I might still be able to do some quick actions on my dad's iPad in case a hammer is needed. To be frank, I don't have strong tells other than the ones I skimped out this morning. I don't want to see TAWNN, S-Tier, or Swiss lynched. Even though S-Tier's JTB/Red Ryu push the entire day just seems incredibly asinine and I couldn't get definitive substance from it, he is trying to push and create a lynch opportunity. I still don't see how JTB's play is scummy. It's certainly lacking in many regards, but the scum intent isn't smacking me in the face like it is for Swiss/S-tier.

Ranmaru asked me why I found J shifty, look at what I post and look how J reacts. No I didn't read J's list since I wanted to save that for after I finished my own. I'm mostly going off how I state that I want to give J a chance and J promptly starts pumping out a reads list and tells me the bad vibes on me have dissipated. I do an analysis on S-Tier, think he has had a questionable reaction, J tells me he has a scum tell (didn't elaborate as far as I know) and then offered him up as a secondary lynch. And yes, I apologize for skimming, but again I'm just outing out a lot of what I feel atm since I don't have the time to use this extension effectively and am forced to depart from trying to build up my reads gradually (**** takes up too much time).

Soup~ I asked you if AM was town, because as Spidermang noted he wasted a lot of his beginning play on discussing hydra discussion. I honestly don't see how or why someone would get so passionate about having the provision of masking their play. It is not pro town play. And I feel this way because I personally find the debate fruitless.

Either way I hate reading two separate slots that each do 1/4 of the work expecting the other half to pull their share of the weight. I also hate reading a hydra that is active, but has conflicting stances at every step of the game. So to me, the hydra problem will always be a perpetual problem, but it is not going to be the underlying problem that will be why town will likely lose this game.

A lot of these pushes have little to no weight. The player list is largely suspect or largely unavailable. But really I'm not really swooned by AM's play which from my experienced has swooned me on many an occasion. Tipping point on AM came when I offered myself to be pressured and he posted a rocket missle sign. Struck as me being such a cursory and surface response. Then again this was the same tipping point that caused me to dislike Spidermang's slot. Either they are both scum or my statement did deserve pressure. It is something that I need to reconsider from outside my own perspective.

Now I know I'm being a hypocrite. I've noted many times that my play could be better at many points, but for a senior cast of players the lack of pressure and heat in this game is jarring. Out of anything that has happened today, Guus's reaction to pressure has been the most vivid thing that has popped out of a game. I don't like players who have gone along with the flow of the game. And again look at me, the guy who wants to build up slow reads and only has recently decided to lazily stream reads as per lazy convenience. But no really, there is zero desire to have found anything happening in this game to be remotely desirable to not shift something to a more action oriented and effective atmosphere. Imo scum would have loved for the tunnels to have drone on, unless of course it was on them. Pressure on slots v. pressure off that slot needs to be weighed with how much apathy is too much apathy.

But more or less, I'm not particularly a fan of this slot despite it's constant presence in the game thus far and for some of the reasons aforementioned, I would have expected differently.

Unvote, vote: Aggressive Meditation

Town intent. Or well played.

S-tier, I want a case from you on one of myself/Soup. Something that actually shows why you have us as scum.

That's not unreasonable to ask at all.

Another thing:



No one has said/inferred this about me so why bring it up? Stupidity is everywhere this game.

GG italics again.

What happened to RR post claim?

I just deleted a rather long post/rant to Zen, but I'm containing that one for another time.

Game-related, your switch to AM is superficial and totally gross.

Grimy

Late response sorry, but I believe S-Tier appeared genuine in his interactions with Swiss. In fact, he technically wasn't the instigator in the back in forth. I see this post as the basic start of the Swiss/S-Tier interactions. S-Tier might have been trying to push Swiss' buttons by calling him a noob, but to me it looks as he was simply responding to Swiss' comments. Overall I read the situation as Swiss firing up at S-Tier for not tagging his posts, who then went along with it, with intentions to garner a read.

On this note, here is a post which summarises your case at the time on S-Tier:



You suggest S-Tier is scummy for applying pressure to swiss, yet curiously I don't remember you being on Spider's case for doing what you say was the exact same thing. In fact you were very quick to tell Spidey that this sort of pressure wouldn't work, without letting it play out or trying to guage intent from Spidey.

You voted Spidey in #36

You then acknowledge that Spidey was trying to goad Swiss with fake pressure

You then remove your vote in #62, without ever acting on your vote. This is largely why I was interested on your thoughts on Swiss/Spidey, because you never really vocalised a scum suspicion of Spidey, but now you're preaching to the choir about S-Tier doing what you said was the same thing.



Hence why I believe this to be reaching. S-Tier was for the most part reacting to Swiss' outbursts. If we agree that a Hydra refusing to tag his posts is a null tell, I don't see why a Townie wouldn't react to being told to die for it. Ofc his reaction is also null, but I don't see why a Townie wouldn't defend their position on a playstyle choice, when the only reason why they shouldn't is "Swiss doesn't slip to fake pressure so arguing with him is a waste of time."



Quoting this because I remembered Soup using the fact that S-Tier claimed his role as reasoning for his S-Tier scum case.



Off topic but lol i only just got why you called me Vanderzapp >.<.



Lol at this making the response I did slightly mundane >.<. The point still stands though.

You said Spider was trying to fake pressure Swiss. You vote him but don't ever really call him scum for it. You said S-Tier was trying to fake pressure Swiss. You vote him and push him with a fiery vengeance. Why



Ok, up to #477 and Soup never responded to my first question here. In this post he basically implies that he doesn't like S-Tier's claim. However, earlier he said to that S-Tier could be joking and it's nothing more than null. If I'm reading what Soup said correctly, this is a blatant contradiction.



Also missed this earlier, so hindsight 101 but it's odd that Soup's immediate assumption is that Zen's play is role related. Townie's shouldn't be trying to fish power roles. Why is Soup thinking about this? Dislike.



Did you seriously take Swiss' #16 at face value? When you even said that you wanted "the honour to butt heads with Swiss." Really? I don't believe it.

And misinterpretation no. You showed you're not willing to cooperate with Swiss' demands here, however when Ran didn't succumb to Swiss' demands, you're all over him. I find this odd; was Ran scummy to you at this point?

Spider's reads. No substantiation for your scum reads at this point.



Oh wow I missed this. Good point, I hope this is developed. AM for Town hero. Would probably lynch Spidey on this point alone.

#521: Aka finally some analysis from Swiss. He picked up the Soup weirdness as well, cool. Agree with the townie points for No Name.

@Swiss: Yes the sheriff thing was a pre game joke.



Obvious gambit. Does Zen gambit as Scum? I don't remember it ever happening (granted, he's probably a lot better than he was in Pikmafia/FF6/Bad Idea 3). Arrogance/stubborness isn't scummy, and I'm not reading into it. He's not confirmed by any means but as far as up to page 14 goes he's not a play for toDay.



Weeeiiirrrddd



Disrespectful J? That isn't going to be fun at all :- (.

#540: Dabuz's reads. Still null on him, like some of the analysis but don't like the S-Tier vote (though I can understand why it's there). I wanna say he's town but am afraid I'll get burnt. So null.

More Zen town tells.

@Ran: If you're reading I'm skimming your posts ; - P

@J: Who is bug boy btw?

Nullish on J. I feel he's trying hard to be on Swiss' good side, which is raising red flags. He's talking about his tells too. @Zen did you get this vibe?

---

Up to reading page 16, breaking for a bit because family are coming over soon. Reads at this point:

S-Tier/AM are town, Swiss can be town too, though I always exercise caution.
I'd put No Name, Dabuz, Allegory as town but my reads of them are not as strong. Fine with them living today.

J is nullish, but he's entered the game weirdly and I'm not a huge fan.
JTB I like some of his pushes, but want to see where Zen is going with his case on #631

Ran told me the play was between glg/spidey/jtb. I can dig a Spidey lynch. I also dig a Soup lynch. I'd submit to a glg lynch but Spidey/Soup worry me more for reasons I outlined. I think it's just glyph left. Whatever on him, but at this stage he hasn't done anything.

10/10 would bang.

I mean read again.

To further clarify what I mean in my first paragraph of #989 (as upon rereading this doesn't fully articulate what I'm trying to get across), I don't think S-Tier went in with a plan or intentions to get up in Swiss' grill. It just sort of happened. Swiss barked at Zen and Zen barked back.

He bleated.

Anyway Zen's style hides intent.

Not sure whether to believe it. If we lynch JTB and he flips town, then I think it shows S-Tier is scum. If JTB flips scum on lynch, S-Tier can still be scum but it is more likely not a gambit and S-Tier is town.

Vanz I see no tell? > You saw a tell in this

Read in isolation so unaware what this was in regards to.

I'm going to put this really blatant for everyone voting me, you're wrong. The cases on me haven't even been that great and people like Dabuz and No Name see how bad they are. I'm going to be stubborn here just like I am right now. Why? Because I can, and I don't feel the need to defend pot-shot accusations that really have no merit besides "Soup isn't playing to his meta and we can't read what he's saying."

Don't be obtuse.

Oh my gog I'm surrounded by idiots.

//Swiss

WAT

AND THEN S-TIER DECIDED TO TAKE A FLYING LEAP BACK INTO THE LYNCHPOOL.

On a Spidey scumflip, you're next.

Grimy

Onto D2

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

^ Those notes were written after the first few days into the game. If you want to see what I was thinking about all slots, check here, however I did trash it for a reason:

Spoiler

Player List:

1. Spidermang (Raz/Xonar):
Post #12: "First time I'll be playing with Swiss. Oh lord."
Post #14: "I'll make sure to make it hilarious"
Post #16: "Objection, F&L. Confirming."

Why giraffelasergun and Dabunz in particular?

Calls out Swiss on being busy as being "not very town-like" Points it out as a rhetorical question.

Gets angry with Accounts town read on Souper. A very weird reaction. Would he have that reaction a scum mate? I highly doubt it. They disagree on the read perhaps? Would a partner get this offended at his partner having a bad read?

Spidermang is playing way too poorly in the beginning of the day. Noting that he failed to answer, seriously? At this point there has to be some ulterior motive. Why is Xonar playing in such an anti-town manner, especially when the head is Raziek|Xonar for instance. If they are scum then something needs to be gained from this type of play. Coming under attention when they are fundamentally two players who usually have no difficulty acting in a pro-town manner makes me inclined to think that they want to be copped/checked.

Is that Raziek getting angry, or Xonar? For Xonar, that would be extremely out of character.

A basic rundown on three players? Is this the type of RVS play that we would expect from this slot? Is this the type of questions we would expect from these two players, from Swiss?

Reading way too much into the play on Swiss.

Spidermang is philosophically approaching this game similar to how JTB approaches the game and similar to how I meta-paraphrased how the game could be considered/thought-of.

Spidermang's foes on zap brannigan is off. He uses the following quoted material for source:

Vote: Swiss

I thought you would do something like that, but I'm not going to tag my posts, and that isn't worthy of a vote.

For the vote. That means that he doesn't feel that his initial play is good and doesn't deserve criticism. Would place a foes on Spidermang if he tries to retract his push as being a bad gambit on his own end.

Nothing is inherently wrong with pushing anti-town, I just don't like how hard he is pushing in this instance. After reading 47-62, it looks like Xonar just...does this kind of stuff.
You could not possibly mean that demanding answers is part of my playstyle?
You could not possibly mean that it was page 1 and page 2 where there was hardly anything to go off of? (it's still only page 4)
You could not possibly mean that it's legit to want to acquire knowledge?

Justifying his play when dabuz calls him out?

2. dtjglyphmoney

3. Gorf's Fav Hydra Account/AM (Gorf/WashedLaundry)

Remove the meta. Remove the AtE.

Town read on Soup. Spidermang you don't get to decide how hydras play.

I'm WashedLaundry. Why try to read Swiss with such a stupid gambit, it's stupid.
dabuz change your color. Xonar trying to make Swiss his *****. Why not,
Xonar trying to accomplish? Why not, Xonar has an ulterior motive in doing this?
Why is it reduced to something childish or stupid. Why is it not a scum motivation?
Why is it not a scum tell?

> hide who's posting at all times
Another Swiss comment that is italicized.

Reads it as pro-town anti-town play. Doesn't read it as intent based play in #158.

More discussion on meta.

I like Amed's #177.

4. The Account With No Name (Guus/John2k4)

No Name takes the affront very lackadaisically. "Why would I bus my hydra partner"

Soup, why did you change avatars?

Notes that Soup is Souper town relatively early in the game.

Outs a town read on S-Tier.

Dabuz as scum gut. Seriously?

5. JTB

6. Soup~ (masons with Swiss)

If Swiss dies, I would look into this slot. Some of the things that are italicized rub me off extremely in the wrong way.
> It begins
> Interact on a more intimate level.
> It seems like you've got a target on your head this game already
> It really shows a fake attitude towards him, almost that you fear him.

7. Allegory

8. giraffelasergun

9. Dabuz:

Just finished reading posts 1-39. I find it odd that Spidermang comments on his first game with Swiss in his 12, I guess it shows that Swiss is "Famous" to some extent, maybe scary would be a better word considering Xonar's 12. He then asks for Swiss's opinion on a couple players in his 21. Why wouldn't he want to ask these questions to someone he has played with and is familiar with? Considering he just goes for voting Swiss in his 32 and then he pushes in his 36, it looks like he is hunting anti-town players ATM. I don't think Spidermang is reading intentions or thinking his posts through so I do not like him.

Swiss is null to me, this is just how he plays lol.

Spidermang isn't reading into intent. But seriously, this is RVS. Also, no vote. Dabuz is trying to feel out Spidermang.

Dabuz is being way too specific with his posting numbers. Strikes me as being mechanical.

What do I like about Dabuz? What can I read from the slot?

Is this Dabuz's usual style? If he's deviating from his usual style, what indication can this have on his alignment?

10. J

11. Zapp Brannigan: Why did zap come out with such a weird face ";o" What type of reaction is that to a role pm?

Zapp likes spidey from the get go. Doesn't like Soup. Doesn't like dabuz? Was dabuz even a presence worth mentioning at this point? Was he as much a presence as Soup at this point?

Note: A really weird comparison statement. Why would you follow the same metric on dabuz as Soup when the two slots are really quite different. Soft bussing perhaps?

Zapp thinks the questions and the interaction is good. Oh my god. No way. Seriously? It's reaching imo, it's fine for RVS purposes, but at this point? At face value it is horrible.

"No you really haven't shown try to determine his alignment, so I wouldn't know that"

Zapp and Soupa definitely aren't scum together, Zapp already makes an assumption that Soupa has a town read on Swiss. Why does Zapp think that Soupa has a town read on Swiss?

It feels like you are just trying to make Spidey look odd, and I don't like that.

****ing awkward as **** awkward as **** awkward as ****.

[... That doesn't matter. He can ask anyone. It's not odd at all.

Nothing wrong with pushing aggressively either.

It feels like you are just trying to make Spidey look odd, and I don't like that.

Vote: Dabuz

Generalizing. Not trying to read intent. Not trying to gauge intent.

Swiss is null. What the ****. #159 Why would Zapp be offended that Soup
has a town read on someone he is marking down as being null? The only
justification is that he has Spidermang as a strong town read.

Might make sense that he is trying to gain town cred by over powering Swiss.

Why would you vote Swiss, why would you vote Swiss?

Well I don't see how you put No Name in that pile.

AM made some good points on the hydra thing.

JTB is scummy.

Legitimately mad at No Name for his town read on S-Tier.

12. S-Tier (Seph/Zen)

#265 gap assumption on lynching based on a previous game.

"Playing worse than shining force"

Makes a huge reaching case on there being a connection between JTB and Swiss.

I.e. Swiss thinking he's joking because of his vote on JTB.

S-Tier claims out of nowhere.

13. Swiss (masoned with Soup~)

"I will provide content in good time, and when I am not at work. If you have an issue with this, feel free to vote me and attempt my lynch. If not - expend your effort elsewhere."

Swiss interjects that he wants to see hydras posting. Hugh. Is it because Zapp's analysis is that bad? Post #91.

Anyways, back to responses.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Swiss, RR is dead. He was town.

 

[Swiss]

Swiss, RR is dead. He was town.

Well at least my read was right.

 

[Swiss]

Moar OC latah.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Man why isn't this Day over even?

Yea I know I gotta read but still. ****ing seriously, if we have scum we have scum.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Lynch Dabuz and S Tier toMorrow and we probz have the game wrapped up nicely. Will talk with Laundry but he'll most likely agree so yea.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

^Those reads were formulated solely from D1 schenanigans btw. Their plays and ties with Spidermang and Soup are irrefutable and shan't be forgotten.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I've read the first twelve pages, though towards the end it was more me looking at the screen and scrolling downwards. TONS of stupid ****, but can't say I'm surprised.

I hate catchup posts, since you can just ***** and moan about how scummy someone is and then 'get to their flip' and realize, wow, you were right all along! Or how town or whatever. Only thing I've seen that I haven't really seen addressed was S-Tier putting me in the potential lynch pool on the 31st on the grounds that I was inactive. This was MAYBE a day after I declared V/LA for the weekend. **** screams 'hey I'm lookin to lynch someone! Anyone!'

I'll be adding more to this post later on, to help you subtract the bad guys.

Ryker made me promise I'd substitute in some math puns. So yeah, done for the night deal with it nerds I am tired

 

[zapp brannigan]

Also Swiss, if you are re-reading, I suggest putting zapp on your ignore list and then running through the game again with everyone on ignore except for zapp. If you don't have time to read the latter, print it out and put it in your bathroom so you have nothing better to do than to read it while you are on the can.

Lmao. I don't know why, but reading Ran's posts while taking a dump is hilarious to me.

And yes this is a serious vote. You wanted me to throw down? You have it right here. Your case on me is disgusting and you are not even trying to find solid reasoning to my lynch you are instead feigning on ignorance and every straw you can pull.

Come the **** at me.

Man I'd love to troll you. But seriously Soup, if you think the argument is dumb why cling to it so hard and end up doing rage posts with empty threat votes? You're doing nothing here that helps anyone who is already fine with lynching you toDay. Ignore it if it's not going anywhere, you're better than this. I've told ran to cool it, because frankly he is just repeating himself over and over and not going anywhere. But he is entitled to an opinion and if your responses don't change his mind, that's not on him, but regardless you should both just agree to disagree at this point.

Btw though, feel free to try and push a lynch on us if you think we're scum. But getting into a ragefest with Ran does nothing for me to change my opinion on you, and is telling with where your priorities seem to be in this game.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Perhaps what kills me the most is his inflexibility and unwillingness. He appears to legitimately want you dead early today and isn't interesting in using today to explore other slots.

Honestly, apply this to just about everyone fine with Soup dieing then. Saying ran isn't interested in exploring other slots is a MASSIVE reach too. Like, I don't read Ran's posts but quote him saying we should end the day right now, I doubt he'd ever say that seriously.