Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

[#HBC | ѕoup]

How the crap did you end up with GLG as a town read?

Oh my god you have to be kidding me right now...

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

#458-#467 tawnn

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Bold and Underlined, what would the purpose of this be?

Efficiency. You post a lot which clouts interactions among other players that doesn't involve you. Your play is centrist extroverted, not strongly sensory dependent. If you want to know that's how I'm going to read your slot when I get to it. And honestly, that's the most effective way to deal with your presence in this game. Also I stated that hoping that you would take it the wrong way and treat it as if I'm being offensive. Because even though my mafia philosophy aligns with your play, I still find it aggravating and annoying.

 

[Gova]

2. dtjglyphmoney ()
3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
6. Soup~ (1) AM
7. Allegory ()
8. giraffelasergun (1) Allegory
9. Dabunz ()
10. J ()
11. Zapp Brannigan (1) S-Tier
12. S-Tier (1) Zapp
13. Swiss ()

Not voting - Glyph, Soup, GLG, Dabuz, J, Swiss, TAWNN

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is set for April 17th at 11:59 CST (GMT-6).

 

[The Account With No Name]

I seen no reason not to claim at L-1, the thought behind the rest is null and the explanation was only put there to describe my situation.

What you need to do forever now, is read the whole thread, or at least skim over votes, before posting your ****. You claimed while at L-2 and it was decided that we'd wait for you and not quicklynch on on the first day ot ToDay.
If you say you claimed at L-1, you claimed while still reading the thread, not fully read up, and that makes you a tard. If you do this, stop this habit.
If you don't do this, then please explain to me how you reached the L-1 conclusion while you claimed.

I'll explain to you what I actually mean:

I was at L-1 actually and this wagon had no terms in stopping, my claim didn't even matter as I'm just a VT anyways.

Your claim matters the world. Be it VT or Super Chopper Town Jackie Chan, your claim is half your defense. Your claim is literally information about your role that you're giving to scum. "Hai, you don't need to look at me for power roles. I'll just be VT playing scummy for you!"

Also, the underlined, I don't like it. Feels like you're playing it off as "sooooorry guys, I'm just VT nobody mind me". When I read it, it appealed to my emotions.

#458-#467 tawnn

tanks

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What you need to do forever now, is read the whole thread, or at least skim over votes, before posting your ****. You claimed while at L-2 and it was decided that we'd wait for you and not quicklynch on on the first day ot ToDay.
If you say you claimed at L-1, you claimed while still reading the thread, not fully read up, and that makes you a tard. If you do this, stop this habit.
If you don't do this, then please explain to me how you reached the L-1 conclusion while you claimed.

I'll explain to you what I actually mean:

I came into the thread seeing a pile-up on me and I started to skim back, I saw L-1 and as I was explaning and defending I decided to claim.

Your claim matters the world. Be it VT or Super Chopper Town Jackie Chan, your claim is half your defense. Your claim is literally information about your role that you're giving to scum. "Hai, you don't need to look at me for power roles. I'll just be VT playing scummy for you!"

Also, the underlined, I don't like it. Feels like you're playing it off as "sooooorry guys, I'm just VT nobody mind me". When I read it, it appealed to my emotions.

Not at all. I know people would be on me would I be PR or something dumb like that like I said it was just Assurance and Explanation.

 

[The Account With No Name]

I came into the thread seeing a pile-up on me and I started to skim back, I saw L-1 and as I was explaning and defending I decided to claim.

Okay, as I said, don't do this again.

Not at all. I know people would be on me would I be PR or something dumb like that like I said it was just Assurance and Explanation.

Yup, you just made something that was WIFOM to just scum (is he VT or a PR) to something that's WIFOM to town as well (is he really just VT or is he PR trying to hide is claim, let's not pressure him further). I'm not a fan of that at all, that's what I'm saying.
I'll drop this point, as I'm going to eat, but it's just what I thought of your claim.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Efficiency. You post a lot which clouts interactions among other players that doesn't involve you. Your play is centrist extroverted, not strongly sensory dependent. If you want to know that's how I'm going to read your slot when I get to it. And honestly, that's the most effective way to deal with your presence in this game. Also I stated that hoping that you would take it the wrong way and treat it as if I'm being offensive. Because even though my mafia philosophy aligns with your play, I still find it aggravating and annoying.

Heh, and I don't give a flying **** about how you find it annoying. Meaning I'm not going to take it the wrong way, and I'm not going to back away just because you don't like it.

I do see how my posts can clout interactions etc. I like activity, I don't like inactivity. So that's why I post plenty. (Notice how I call out Glyph for viewing so much and not posting)

About the centrist thing. I don't try to be the center of attention, I just somehow get attention to me every time looool. Oh well.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Also to explain my behavior regarding Spidermang, the play had a lot of open holes, but nothing I could peg down with confidence as being scum intent. I didn't know how to interpret him being ok with dying, but there is no motive for scum to encourage that behavior asides from wifom and I thought that both Raziek|Xonar knew better than to rely on wifom to save their lives on a strong L-1 wagon. In other words, I didn't think Spidermang would have resorted to such a bad play as sole play to survive for the day, however such play does deserve a lynch. That was my bad though tbh.

This coupled with my assumption that we could peg down scumxonar later in the game through revealed roles, he claimed back up right, lead to my aberrant behavior at the end of the other day. I basically didn't trust this town to win without PR assistance which made Xonar tempting to keep alive in case we lost an investigative and his role would compensate. That's the crux of it. Have court. Will get to responses in two to three hours.

Vote: GLG

Your first paragraph is really spot on and I enjoy seeing that from you, the second is a lot of derogatory opinion that has no barring on anything or not, could you explain why you felt that way?

Not getting the vote on GLG, my opinion hasn't changed.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Heh, and I don't give a flying **** about how you find it annoying. Meaning I'm not going to take it the wrong way, and I'm not going to back away just because you don't like it.

I do see how my posts can clout interactions etc. I like activity, I don't like inactivity. So that's why I post plenty. (Notice how I call out Glyph for viewing so much and not posting)

About the centrist thing. I don't try to be the center of attention, I just somehow get attention to me every time looool. Oh well.

NO. DON'T DO THIS. YOU'RE SLIPPING BACK INTO PULP FICTION TERRITORY. This is not a matter of read but please I would like it if you attested to some of the things Acrostic has said, as they bother me too. Especially right now.

 

[zapp brannigan]

If you two have a problem with my play this game tell me in endgame, not now. I'll consider it then.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It matters because it makes the game borderline unenjoyable and reading you even more of a hassle then it should be.

 

[zapp brannigan]

I'm not scum. You're playing like you're in Pulp Fiction again.

Yes you are. No I am not. In Pulp fiction you made a town case on what's his name? Anyways you did and somehow afterwards you came to a scum conclusion when it shouldn't have been that way. Everything else I know was just a distraction so I am avoiding that.

So, if you want. We can end this (you can have the last word). That way this won't drag on. I will give my conclusion and what I will do in this post, though.

You realize that I can form an opinion of something and have an ulterior motive to it, right? Yeah, goading for information implies 'pro-town' attirbutes but that doesn't imply that I think his actions were pro-town. You can goad for information all you want but I was trying to find the intent behind it.

I think it was pretty clear that I found his push nasty.

You're right Ranmaru, I was trying to reason with him. I was trying to understand where he was coming from and look into his intentions, how does this imply distance? Where is this potshot theory coming from?

Yes, and I felt that ulterior motive was to stop Spidey from digging himself in a hole. Underlined, that makes sense. So, why did you think he was goading swiss for information? (the intention)

A means of pressure has a meaning to it, does it not? What does that meaning imply? Why was I pressuring them? Once again, Ranmaru, you need to think about what you say before you say.

I am saying that your pressure failed and I don't see how it got you anywhere with your Spidey or Swiss reads. Like it only helped you to: Unvote Spidey. Later on you didn't give a conclusion to that pressure. Instead, you just voted along with Spidey at the time and joined my wagon.

Swiss hasn't been around to the small instances that I got to talk to Swiss, I had a town lean, but that isn't enough to solidify anything. I think from interaction with Spidey that Swiss is town, however.

Hmmm ok.

Why wouldn't I care? Gain information out of it? Gain informaiton out of other players? These accusations are really weak.

I don't see how you got any information out of it. If you did, you would most likely have a more solid read on either Swiss or Spidey. Seeing as how you avoided Spidey's wagon because you didn't have a reason, I would say that you went no where.

There was plenty of reason to worry about it and I am justified, you are acting like it was clear-cut, I pointed out something that had merit to both me and town. I want to hunt both town and scum, and I want to get as much information as I can to decide which I feel a slot is. These accusations are really weak.

Bold, I don't see the plenty reasons you are talking about. You'll need to show those to convince me.

Again, I didn't see you really did get any info from that. You had no reason to worry about it, and there was no merit to town or you. Swiss can handle himself, there was no reason for you to butt in. You could have let it happen and then observed it to get a better read.

I think my activity talks more about it, I have more motivation in the early day to do things, then I just linger.

Self-meta. I will consider this in end game.

*deep breath*

The thought behind the push and the read I had on Swiss does not matter, what matters is the fact that Spidey pushed it. It doesn't matter if it was Swiss, the way it was done was grimy and bad, I could not see it as anything else other then ****ty reasoning/scum or RVS shenanigans. I gave Spidey benefit of the doubt due to RVS, also.

Can you clarify this?

Because it concerns me and what read I have on them? If someone did something that bothered you, would you ignore or just let it slide? I acted on impulse of what I felt was bad, and I wanted to know more about the intention behind it. I can't believe i'm repeating myself again.

Underlined, that was rvs. You wouldn't have a read on them. Finding their push stupid seems more like you were worried about them messing up their push rather than finding out their intent/motivation. This makes sense to me since I didn't see you do anything with the result of their interaction later on.

Ok, if you say you found that it bothered you, you would find it scummy. You would have later on stated the intention you think Spidey had. AND, you wouldn't have been reluctant to join his wagon near his lynch.

Bold I don't remember you stating what you thought of their intentions.

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Conclusion in next post.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Conclusion:

I still don't believe you. I also find your and acrostics issues with my playstyle play related to get me off of you and him. I can't tell, so if you really do have an issue, tell me in endgame.

You tell me that you were trying to find Spidey's intentions, and that you had plenty of reason to worry about them pushing on Swiss in a stupid way.

Yet, I don't remember you ever stating what his intentions were. You say you pressured him, but it got you no where with both your reads on Swiss and Spidey. How? You refused to get on Spidey's wagon, because you didn't have a reason to get on. How does that make sense when you interrupted the Swiss vs Spidey to get a read on the both of them?

You say that you neglecting the scum lynch on Spidey is just a clear-cut assumption from me... But I feel that is you trying to discredit me, because my assumption makes sense and lines up with you refusing to get on Spidey's wagon due to 'lack of reasoning'.

I am very fine with your lynch.

Vote: Soup

 

[zapp brannigan]

Basically, you avoided Spidey's wagon because he was your scum buddy and you didn't want to lynch him. This lines up with your distancing on him in the RVS, and this is not crack pot theory.

You also were hard for Stier's lynch just because of his forcefullness with Swiss, which I liked. Yet, after seeing you switch to J just because of self meta, was disgusting because it showed how fake your intentions were of lynching Stier. I didn't like that.

Especially since you are giving self meta when you damned J for it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yes you are. No I am not. In Pulp fiction you made a town case on what's his name? Anyways you did and somehow afterwards you came to a scum conclusion when it shouldn't have been that way. Everything else I know was just a distraction so I am avoiding that.

So, if you want. We can end this (you can have the last word). That way this won't drag on. I will give my conclusion and what I will do in this post, though.

This is why you are playing like Pulp Fiction again, you are refusing to listen to me and just have this tunnel vision going on by merely your idealistic reasons, you are not being open to anything besides your own thought.

Yes, and I felt that ulterior motive was to stop Spidey from digging himself in a hole. Underlined, that makes sense. So, why did you think he was goading swiss for information? (the intention)

Look at the question he presented. Look at how he was acting. Those all have reasons to them and the way he was so brash read like it had a reason.

I am saying that your pressure failed and I don't see how it got you anywhere with your Spidey or Swiss reads. Like it only helped you to: Unvote Spidey. Later on you didn't give a conclusion to that pressure. Instead, you just voted along with Spidey at the time and joined my wagon.

The pressure failed beacuse of them, not me. I was completely ignored in that instance and instead they tried pointing me more towards Swiss. I unvoted Spidey because of that. I did that because I didn't like that statement you made and I did see reason to vote you.

Bold, I don't see the plenty reasons you are talking about. You'll need to show those to convince me.

Again, I didn't see you really did get any info from that. You had no reason to worry about it, and there was no merit to town or you. Swiss can handle himself, there was no reason for you to butt in. You could have let it happen and then observed it to get a better read.

Uhhh..My read concerning them? Information hunting? Alignment pinning? Do you need more? I had every reason to worry about it and you are still refusing to see my point of thought, this argument is almost worthless. I butted in because of every point I just made. This isn't starting to sound like a case, it's starting to sound like a personal distaste. What do you really have on me that pins me as scum? And don't state the obvious.

Can you clarify this?

Spidey pushed it. I did not like Spidey. I didn't care for Swiss, but I didn't like Spidey. When someone I don't like pushes something, I have every reason to get involved and information hunt. It's like you're being dense on purpose.

Underlined, that was rvs. You wouldn't have a read on them. Finding their push stupid seems more like you were worried about them messing up their push rather than finding out their intent/motivation. This makes sense to me since I didn't see you do anything with the result of their interaction later on.

Ok, if you say you found that it bothered you, you would find it scummy. You would have later on stated the intention you think Spidey had. AND, you wouldn't have been reluctant to join his wagon near his lynch.

Bold I don't remember you stating what you thought of their intentions.

Who cares if it was RVS? I can have a read in RVS, you're stating things that don't matter and are merely opinion. You are literally pissing me off right now.

NO, YOU ****ING BLOCKHEAD. LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING I AM NOT GOING TO ****ING REPEAT MYSELF.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Basically, you avoided Spidey's wagon because he was your scum buddy and you didn't want to lynch him. This lines up with your distancing on him in the RVS, and this is not crack pot theory.

You also were hard for Stier's lynch just because of his forcefullness with Swiss, which I liked. Yet, after seeing you switch to J just because of self meta, was disgusting because it showed how fake your intentions were of lynching Stier. I didn't like that.

Especially since you are giving self meta when you damned J for it.

Quite possibly the most stupid player I have ever played with.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I will try one more time to get this through your head:

Basically, you avoided Spidey's wagon because he was your scum buddy and you didn't want to lynch him. This lines up with your distancing on him in the RVS, and this is not crack pot theory. [/.quote]

I didn't avoid his wagon because he was my scum-buddy, I avoided his wagon on the basis I had no read on him besides of RVS and what he did, I wanted to solidify my thoughts but I never got around to it, that is bad play in my part and I will not defend myself from that, I will defend this ugly ****ing case that makes no sense and is merely opinion, not fact.

You also were hard for Stier's lynch just because of his forcefullness with Swiss, which I liked. Yet, after seeing you switch to J just because of self meta, was disgusting because it showed how fake your intentions were of lynching Stier. I didn't like that.

That is not even the reason I was on S-tier. J tends to self-meta as scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I still don't believe you. I also find your and acrostics issues with my playstyle play related to get me off of you and him. I can't tell, so if you really do have an issue, tell me in endgame.

I am currently channeling the spirit of EE right now. That is how mad I am.

You tell me that you were trying to find Spidey's intentions, and that you had plenty of reason to worry about them pushing on Swiss in a stupid way.

THAT.
IS.
NOT.
THE.
REASON.
WHY.
I.
PUSHED.
THEM.
READ.
THE.
****ING.
ARGUMENTS.
THAT.
I.
AM.
PRESENTING.
I.
AM.
NOT.
REPEATING.
MYSELF.

Yet, I don't remember you ever stating what his intentions were. You say you pressured him, but it got you no where with both your reads on Swiss and Spidey. How? You refused to get on Spidey's wagon, because you didn't have a reason to get on. How does that make sense when you interrupted the Swiss vs Spidey to get a read on the both of them?

This is contradictory and nasty. I refused without solid reasoning of my own, I wanted to re-read and I had no motivation to do so, I had a lot of feelings and if you were to re-read I was even waivering on it after RVS, especially after I get in a fight with S-tier over GLG.

You say that you neglecting the scum lynch on Spidey is just a clear-cut assumption from me... But I feel that is you trying to discredit me, because my assumption makes sense and lines up with you refusing to get on Spidey's wagon due to 'lack of reasoning'.

I'm right you're wrong you're wrong I'm right is all I'm hearing

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I really want to move on from this, if you refuse to understand my argument, I will just have to deal with it, but I am not going to waste my time explaining these things to you over and over and over.

I'm moving on.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Sigh. Soup, if this is just 'bad play' then we won't know until you are lynched. We can't take your word for it until after, because this is a game of lies and manipulation. It's your fault people like me take your play as scummy and not bad, and I don't see why you would call me dumb for not understanding that it was just dirt poor play. I found that a bit nasty.

Just give your scum picks and vote. Also give me an opinion on Allegory.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Sigh. Soup, if this is just 'bad play' then we won't know until you are lynched. We can't take your word for it until after, because this is a game of lies and manipulation. It's your fault people like me take your play as scummy and not bad, and I don't see why you would call me dumb for not understanding that it was just dirt poor play. I found that a bit nasty.

Just give your scum picks and vote. Also give me an opinion on Allegory.

I'm not going to even call it bad play anymore besides the very end of the day where I slacked off, that's about it. That's a poor reason to lynch me as you are obviously now wavering it.

and I don't see why you would call me dumb for not understanding that it was just dirt poor play. I found that a bit nasty.

...

Vote: Zapp Brannigan

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

And yes this is a serious vote. You wanted me to throw down? You have it right here. Your case on me is disgusting and you are not even trying to find solid reasoning to my lynch you are instead feigning on ignorance and every straw you can pull.

Come the **** at me.

 

[zapp brannigan]

I didn't say I was lynching you for bad play. I am lynching you for the very same reasons I have stated when voting you. You said my case was wrong because of your bad play, and I am saying I don't believe you and still find you scummy.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Seeing as I haven't backed off at all. I told you already that I have already made my conclusion.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

This is what you are saying Ranmaru
,
"You're scummy because you're playing bad sorry i we gotta lynch you because i can't seem to reason to anyone's logic that doesn't conclude to myself besides my own"

Where is the town meaning in that? It's such horse**** and I can't believe I almost let you get away with it, I'm personally glad you stuck your neck out.

You are, at this point, refusing to listen to me, and not because you're certain, because you don't wanna back down, because you know I'm at the edge and you know you can take it for granted, just now you just happen to pull this case out of your *** when you had plenty of time to do it.

 

[zapp brannigan]

No. I said that I don't believe you, and that I will lynch you for your obvious connection to Spidey.

How dense can you be?

I feel you are trying to turn this around on me and that is also very scummy from you.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Now, tell me your opinion on Allegory please.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

No. I said that I don't believe you, and that I will lynch you for your obvious connection to Spidey.

How dense can you be?

I feel you are trying to turn this around on me and that is also very scummy from you.

You don't believe me is the same instance as not listening to me, and you just tried to fan the flames by stating that you were merely going to lynch me on 'bad play' and the excuse 'sorry idk i won't know anything until you flip derp'

I'm turning around on you because your reasoning is poor, and I have concluded that not even you, ranmaru, are this dense.

 

[zapp brannigan]

I never said I was going to lynch you on bad play. You tried to defend yourself by saying that your play was bad and not scummy, and I don't have a reason to believe you because you aren't very convincing. I'm saying that I still find you scummy and I wouldn't find that your play was just 'bad', but here you are trying to twist my words with quotes I have never even had.

I already told you that I was ending the interaction because it would clutter the thread when you are really obvious scum. Dude you totally had cold feet when it came to Spidey all D1 and you tell me it's because Xonar was being Xonar? Your RVS pressure failed, didn't get you a read, and you are telling me that I'm wrong about this. The facts are there. Don't blame me.

Now get to me on Allegory. Stop ignoring that.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I never said I was going to lynch you on bad play. You tried to defend yourself by saying that your play was bad and not scummy, and I don't have a reason to believe you because you aren't very convincing. I'm saying that I still find you scummy and I wouldn't find that your play was just 'bad', but here you are trying to twist my words with quotes I have never even had.

I already told you that I was ending the interaction because it would clutter the thread when you are really obvious scum. Dude you totally had cold feet when it came to Spidey all D1 and you tell me it's because Xonar was being Xonar? Your RVS pressure failed, didn't get you a read, and you are telling me that I'm wrong about this. The facts are there. Don't blame me.

Oh my god you are so miscontruting this right now. I did not say that was my reasoning, I explained my reasoning clear and conicisely, if you are talking about the time I slacked off, I have nothing to defend about that.

What do I need to do to convince you then? I have done all the convincing I will do, this is pure ignorance and I am no longer open to giving you ****. I want your head in a noose.

I did not have cold feet at all, I had cold feet at the end but IF YOU WENT AND RE-READ AND ACTUALLY LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING THEN YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THIS OPINION.

"The facts are there. don't blame me."
DIE
DIE
DIE
DIE

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

"Don't blame me for a case I'm making this is all your fault because you played bad I really have no substance to this case anymore and i'm just hoping it will stick at this point, if I ignore everything you're saying at least"

You need to die immediately.

 

[S-Tier]

Vote: glg

 

[zapp brannigan]

Soup, what is your opinion on Allegory?

No, you are the one that needs to die.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH GOOD LUCK BUDDY

I will get to you when I get to you.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Vote: glg

Yo get back on soup mang.

 

[S-Tier]

Vote: Soup

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yo get on Zapp instead

 

[S-Tier]

lo l.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

lo l.

Have you caught up? Are you reading this?