Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

[zapp brannigan]

Zen y u hammah me

 

[Dabuz]

Player List:

1. Spidermang (Raz/Xonar)
2. dtjglyphmoney
3. Gorf's Fav Hydra Account/AM (Gorf/WashedLaundry)
4. The Account With No Name (Guus/John2k4)
5. JTB
6. Soup~
7. Allegory
8. giraffelasergun
9. Dabunz
10. J
11. Zapp Brannigan
12. S-Tier (Seph/Zen)
13. Swiss

Alive Player List


2. dtjglyphmoney
3. Gorf's Fav Hydra Account/AM (Gorf/WashedLaundry)
4. The Account With No Name (Guus/John2k4)
5. JTB
6. Soup~
7. Allegory
8. giraffelasergun
9. Dabunz
10. J
11. Zapp Brannigan
12. S-Tier (Seph/Zen)
13. Swiss


Dead Player List

1. Spidermang (Raz/Xonar) Swiss, Mafia Back-Up.

 

[The Account With No Name]

Now why would you do that, S-Tier?
!

 

[S-Tier]

im the lyncher it's me MEE!

 

[Gova]

S-Tier receives FOOL votes for breaking the other rule 1.

2. dtjglyphmoney ()
3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
6. Soup~ (4) AM, Zapp, S-Tier, J
7. Allegory ()
8. giraffelasergun ()
9. Dabunz ()
10. J ()
11. Zapp Brannigan (5) FOOL, FOOL, FOOL, FOOL, FOOL
12. S-Tier (5) FOOL, FOOL, FOOL, FOOL, FOOL
13. Swiss ()

Not voting - Glyph, Soup, Allegory, GLG, Dabuz, J, Swiss, TAWNN

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is set for April 17th at 11:59 CST (GMT-6).

 

[zapp brannigan]

LOL WUT but we were TOWN BROS mang. Wa--

Vote: Stier

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

A lynch has been reached. No more posting beyond this point.

 

[S-Tier]

lol

btw If you guys want Swiss/glg/glyph to post before the day end we should just lynch dabuz since it will take longer to wagon build

 

[zapp brannigan]

Counter claim lyncher.

 

[The Account With No Name]

Dear Zappy,

...IF U WERE LYNCHED, I WOULDNT GO 2 UR FUNERAL
...CUZ ID B N JAIL 4 KILLIN DA GUY THAT KILLED U!
..._...|..____________________, ,
....../ `---___________----_____|]= = = = = D
...../_==o;;;;;;;;_______.:/
.....), ---.(_(__) /
....// (..) ), ----"
...//___//
..//___//
.//___//

WE TRUE HOMIES
WE RIDE TOGETHER
WE DIE TOGETHER

 

[The Account With No Name]

Wow sorry about that unfortunate ninja then, Ryker. =P

 

[zapp brannigan]

lol

btw If you guys want Swiss/glg/glyph to post before the day end we should just lynch dabuz since it will take longer to wagon build

Sorry can't let you do that bro.

Soup first

EDIT: Awwww **** again at Ryker

 

[S-Tier]

Dear Zappy,

...IF U WERE LYNCHED, I WOULDNT GO 2 UR FUNERAL
...CUZ ID B DEAD 4 BEING KILLED FOR KILLIN U!
..._...|..____________________, ,
....../ `---___________----_____|]= = = = = D
...../_==o;;;;;;;;_______.:/
.....), ---.(_(__) /
....// (..) ), ----"
...//___//
..//___//
.//___//

WE TRUE HOMIES
WE RIDE TOGETHER
WE DIE TOGETHER

 

[zapp brannigan]

Yo dabuz what was that whole post about? Seems like a post of nothing, emptiness.

 

[zapp brannigan]

@Stier:

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

A lynch has been reached. No more posting beyond this point.

..........

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

No, but seriously, carry on.

 

[Dabuz]

Yo dabuz what was that whole post about? Seems like a post of nothing, emptiness.

-An OMGUS of S-Tier's "case" on me.
-A huge dislike of S-Tier trying to swing a lynch towards me. I dislike it because of the way he tried to swing it and the reasons S-Tier used to explain himself.
-A statement that I am in favor of Soup's lynch because of his connections with Spidey.

 

[zapp brannigan]

OH lol no I meant the playerlist post... but I just realized that was related to ryker not updating it. lolz

 

[zapp brannigan]

Dabuz I think you are letting Stier's pressure get to you. You aren't letting it cloud your judgement, are ya?

Do you seriously think Stier is scum?

 

[Dabuz]

His slot bothers me a lot. It does many things that are scummy, so yes.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Sure I can see his slot bothers you.

Question. Have you played with Zen before, and been in the receiving end of his pressure?

Do you think it's possible he is doing this as town? Why or why not?

 

[Dabuz]

I think I have played with him, but I can't recall for sure >.>

Yes. I haven't completely ruled out the possibility him pressuring for a read.

 

[Dabuz]

EBWOP: err, reads.

 

[zapp brannigan]

hrmmm alright. Kinda non committal there. How exactly do you get scumreads/townreads?

Also, read on Allegory?

 

[S-Tier]

Not buying it.


In your 1216, you continue with the whole trap claim in an attempt to swing the wagon to m-wait, what is this that I see in the distance?

(Sidenote: there are even traps in mafia?)

DFKKSDJFHJDHGJK

NOT BUYING YOUR REASONING IN THE SLIGHTEST.
You backpedal so hard once you realize the Soup lynch is going through and that my lynch won't happen toDay.

Hm? what do you mean you're not buying it? What do you think my reasoning was then? Oh you think I'm scumbuddies with Soup?

Sidenote: There's an infinite amount of roles in mafia so long as you have the ability to create.

Your 1229 is a Soup vote now that you realize my lynch isn't happening ATM.

In your 1220, you say you don't want to do the work of convincing Zap that I am scum...



Now, a little lower, after the Soup vote, you make a "case" on me.

So yeah what point are you trying to make here?

First part is an opinion, I don't even see the "fake questions" you refer to in the second part.

It's not an opinion. You accused Spidey of a fake line of questioning, but there was nothing wrong with the logic of him asking Swiss those questions. It's not opinion. You're reasoning is flawed. That's all there is to it.

>post lolwut
>Don't explain why it is significant

Why did you say that you will get to it later instead of just answering it. Did you ever answer it later? And what was the reasoning for not answering it the first time?

Aaaaah, double negative, so you did read and see I answered it?

You're making useless posts like these when you know what I mean. You've been doing this a lot this game. (You spelled Ryu wrong, Swiss where are you, JTB is alive?)

>Bring up something random
>Don't explain relevance

See above.

>Don't explain relevance

Did you ever state why you dislike that post?

For one you unnecessarily didn't trust that I was day cop. It would have been natural for someone who hasn't played with me much before to assume that I was telling the truth like Guus did. Yet you didn't. Furthermore you were making spiderwebed lynch choices (JTB flips town then we lynch S-tier). Two townies in the bag for you. Don't get me wrong, connection lynches are fine. This wasn't a connection though since it would have nothing to do with us being scumbuddies. The only time you should assume that someone else is scum based on the specific event that someone else flips town is when they are counter claims.

>Bring up a discussion where I disagree with Meta as the reason for a read.
>State is was a defense of Soup
>Use my lack of a J vote in the case, don't explain relevance or even expand on anything.

You were disagreeing on the read for no reason. You haven't battled against someone elses read like this ever before. You were just trying to get some interaction in with Spidey and Soupa.

As for the second part:
<>You vote J
<>I say his wagon aint happening
<>You vote JTB
<>JTB claims and we switch the wagon to J
<>You unvote instead of voting J

You see how this is inconsistent. It shows that you didn't have a true scumhunting process. Rather that you were attempting to blend in. If you were truly had J as your top choice and the only thing keeping you from voting him in the first place was not enough people to lynch him, then you would have switched to him once there were enough people. But you didn't because your read was fake in the first place.

S-Tier, what is your case on J? I mean, you did state in your 792 that if Spidey is scum, J is the buddy. *Taps foot*

Reasoning on J being his buddy at that time is because I think Spidey wanted his partners to bus him since he didn't want to play the game and I felt J coming in on Spidey all the suggested that. Don't know if they are buddies though, just that J is scum.

 

[Dabuz]

Intent, consistency, and how solid the player is at explaining their reads.

Allegory is Townlean. Nothing too notable about the slot. The analysis's are very solid, thought out, and I haven't seen reason to call the slot scum aside from your WIFOM if Soup flips scum.

 

[S-Tier]

Just saying that's not the correct way to use Wiffum.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Intent, consistency, and how solid the player is at explaining their reads.

Allegory is Townlean. Nothing too notable about the slot. The analysis's are very solid, thought out, and I haven't seen reason to call the slot scum aside from your WIFOM if Soup flips scum.

But do you look at intent and motivation?

LOL tell me how my case on Allegory is wifom. Tell me.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Just saying that's not the correct way to use Wiffum.

EY BRO u kno it's Y FOAM

 

[Dabuz]

Yes to the first part.

It's WIFOM because the case operates under assumption of Soup scum. WIFOM is basically when you make a claim based on a certain unproved assumption, correct?

 

[zapp brannigan]

No Dabuz.

Y-FOAM is when you say What if that guy killed him? It was obviously Dinorexbaby2000, cuz fireescapelady suspected him all that time! But what if he was killed to frame him??? HOLY SHIII. No wait... he knows that, so obviously he would want us to think that! THAT DIRTY ****ING *******.

That's Y-foam. There's other types. But it's when your logic goes into circles man.

I think you got that confused. My case is just a case based on connections. So it's more of a case that is not damning until the ... Soup is dead and scum lol.

 

[Dabuz]

Hm, ok.

10characters

 

[Swiss]

Let me catchup before any lynch is made. Jesus.

GG inactive Swiss ruining the game.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What the **** are you people doing.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah. But Soup is so obv scum that that thought just disgusts me... Like seriously soup. Ugh... Soup is a pretty transparent person tho. Cuz if he was town he'd be obv town. Have you played with Soup before?

If he flipped town it would be hard to re-evaluate. Especially with these lurkers mang. I would say be careful of them. And yeah, Dabuz deff would be high on mah bingo book.

"I don't think Soup is town this game, He hasn't been obvious town and therefore he is not town, even though he is town I cannot read him as town."

You really need to think about what you say before you say it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm still reading by and I realize all the deafening ****ty cases against me. My play hasn't been on par but as that long night went by I've had some motivation to play again, call it inspiring if you will.

I don't feel like getting quicklynched so the less you can do is let me catch-up.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Vote: Soup

I'm not buying it. The switch came so easily after suddenly me and RR swayed the lynch looking towards Spidey more. I don't like how you went about this lynch at all, first taking such a stance that can go either way and then quickly hopping on the scum wagon (L-1 is a nice spot to not get scrutinized too much, I'd say).

Get motivation Soup, because this isn't working.

I hopped because I had a lingering scum-read on Spidey I promised myself I would re-read back then but I never had the motivation nor time, I have still yet to re-read besides the current push against me.

It's not like I was scrambling going "OH NO, WHAT IF I DON'T VOTE MY PARTNER?? THAT WILL MAKE ME OBVIOUS SCUM OH NO" I don't like deciding on things unless I'm sure on it or they have reasoning to push them. I've had cold feet this game, yeah, I could even go on a limb and say that I have not done much if anything, but I'm not getting lynched on bad play because I don't feel like getting **** post-game.

Am I town yet? Who knows, I don't really care at this point.

Vote: Soup

This isn't even counting his terrible reactions to what S-Tier did. Just look at how he interacted with Spidey yesterday when both were up for lynch. Spidey joined S-Tier in the initial wagon, but then spontaneously unvoted without any real reason to do so (don't remember whatever reason he BSed). Soup dragged his heels on the Spidey lynch, constantly looking for excuses not to join the wagon when it was deadline and we had decided on a lynch. That's shady as **** on top of what S-Tier did. Soup's scum and needs to be lynched.

Cut me the crap, I don't feel like delving into that again. I don't even remember what I did, I hardly even remember any interaction. I explained why I dragged my heels. Read my response to TAWNN.

@Zapp's #1203

I don't see this as a vote of him finding Spidey scummy. I didn't understand it, and I felt it was like Soup was just voting on a side. Now it seems more like he was trying to distance with Spidey because of Spidey's dumb push on Swiss.

Here he is trying to reason with Spidey. Basically implying that his push is dumb and that he is concerned by the way he is playing. He doesn't find this scummy, he's just worried about how Spidey appears to others. Something only scum worry about.

What the hell is this @ bolded. I found it scummy, don't twist my words just because I was concerned, Spidey was acting completely weird regarding Swiss and how he was pushing him, I thought it was either RVS shenanigans or compleete bull****. I've been over this about twice now.

Here Spidey replies, asks him why he is discrediting him. Did Spidey ever find Soup scummy for this??? This sounds pretty empty.

???? How does this concern me.

Again this seems more like Soup trying to reason with Spidey because Soup knows Swiss wouldn't bite on Spidey's bait.

Underlined, he asks a question, then states that he doesn't have to answer because he KNOWS that he is trying to get information out of him. Meaning Soup was finding him... pro-town, right? But why is he voting him????

LOL NO. I was voting as a means of pressure, to see how he would react, to see what he would do. He completely ignored it even though I pointed out the reasoning towards Swiss and why their push was dumb.

More Soup reasoning with Spidey with Swiss reasons. He's trying to tell him that Swiss's reaction was null and that it would get him no where.

Yeah. WHY DO I THINK I PUSHED SPIDEY FOR??? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEIR PUSH ON SWISS WAS BULL**** OR RVS SHENANIGANS?? I HAVE SAID THIS THREE ****ING TIMES NOW.

Spidey being stubborn and giving self meta.

Doesn't concern me.

Bold, first he gives a wishy washy read on Swiss. Says he doesn't like him but liked him after a re-read. This looks to me like him trying to keep his options open.

Underlined, this feels like fake scumhunting here. He should have asked these questions earlier. I don't really think he wanted to know about that info, rather, I don't think it helped him find scum.

I didn't like the way Swiss responded but I Swiss well enough to have it put no more than Null.

Underlined, this feels like fake scumhunting here. He should have asked these questions earlier. I don't really think he wanted to know about that info, rather, I don't think it helped him find scum.

You realize the whole reason to that was because Swiss didn't answer the two questions about those specific players? I wanted informatoin out of him and why he was acting this way to such a small degree, Spidey's push was wack and his reasoning was sub-par at best.

This feels fake too. I don't think he was voting Spidey due to him finding him scummy, and is letting go just because Spidey is being 'too stubborn'? This is just like when he didn't want to vote Spidey near lynch.

He was being stubborn, no matter what I said or what I did it did not seem that his opinion would change, I tried reasoning with him but apparently he was having none of it. There is no reason to push something like this, and especially when the interaction that is going on can be fruitful. I'd like to ask myself sometimes if I should look at Swiss more if I think about it, because I thank you for bringing this up as it turns the wheels in my head. Why was Spidey so stubborn with this? Why does Swiss merely ignore him?

Again here it doesn't feel like he is scumhunting, but trying to reason with Spidey to stop his stupid push.

uhhh..NO ****.

Soup responds with saying he'll wait for his replies and that he needs to eat.

Underlined, I feel SoupSCUM uses excuses to get away from the thread when he doesn't have an answer to something that can damn him later. He did the same thing when Bardull was being lynched in DK Mafia, he avoided the pressure on Bardull's wagon by leaving and then coming back to say that he didn't read and didn't know what was going on. Fake. This is why I poked him on this earlier on.

I implied I was done, and that I was hungry. When I eat and when I leave the thread doesn't mean anything, I even go against my own word and stick around, because I tend to like the beginning of the day.

He tells me that he won't and that I should read. Why couldn't he just answer me there? I felt like he didn't have the answer.

Because I already answered it and I thought the reasoning was clear. Why the hell are you bringing stuff up like this again? It makes no point, as almost as you're snowballing it. Ranmaru, you really need to think about what you say before you post it.

I tell him I did read, and that he took a short while to eat. Ok, so he said he was going to wait for Swisse's responses to answer Spidey. He never did (Swiss responded, and Soup apparently ate)

This is null.

Here he tries to justify him not answering me by saying that the answer was implied. Why didn't he say that at first instead of refusing to answer me and tell me to go read?

Also keep in mind that he believed Spidey had GOOD INTENTIONS by asking Swiss those questions. I don't really know if he meant he thought Swiss was scum, but he never showed this. Again, this is fake. ****ing fake.

IT WAS IMPLIED. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF.

NO I DIDN'T I THOUGHT HIS INTENTIONS WERE **** AND I WANTED TO REASON WITH HIM AND SEE WHERE THEY CAME FROM BECAUSE I HAD NO ****ING CLUE YOU'RE REALLY STARTING TO PISS ME OFF ****MARU, NO I DIDN'T THINK SWISS WAS SCUM WHY THE **** DO I THINK I PUSHED THEM.

He tries to distance with Spidey and tells him to stop his stupid push on Swiss because it can back fire. This only matters to Soup because appearance is their game. Allegory comes in to scum hunt on No Name. How nice. I'll show how this is scummy. (Upon Soup's scum flip)

Even without this this is a no brainer. But I wanted to state this to make sure he is dead.

I also want to say I got a bit confused with my reads during the middle of the game. I retract my scum read on Stier and AM. I got stuck on meta for Stier, and just a little scummy thing from AM. Same thing with No Name. I also retract my town read on Allegory. I liked his post about No Name because at the time I felt No Name was scum with Stier. This all changed with a re-read upon Spidey's flip. Yes, I'm glad Vandy was here to keep me focused and not get distracted.

This is awful. Read my responses. I'm not repeating myself because this doesn't add anything new to your case, it's just conclusion.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Totally a Soup kill. Ryu y u no shoot SoupaJdabooz

Vote: dabooz

Yeah it would be illogical to kill a revealed vigilante. Why does this concern me?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Might as well claim.

The Ryker half of Erupting Burning Ryker, Vanilla Townie.