Rusty Guillotine Mafia | Ovah

[#HBC | J]

Well I still have to read lol.

 

[Cello_Marl]

I would lynch Swords, and then if you surprisingly don't flip scum I would probably say Kevin. I already said I highly doubt Smarg and J are a scum team, and I really have no idea why you say that a Ran vote on you "proves" Kevin and Swords innocence, but I disagree.

Clearly, if we are considering Kevin and Swords as scum, then we must assume that I am Town, since we KNOW that one of smargaret and Ranmaru is scum. We already know that if we mislynch toDay and Ranmaru is scum, then Town has lost.

Since I am at L-1 with you, J, Ranmaru and Ryker voting for me, we KNOW that if Kevin or Sworddancer were scum, they could have won by simply hammering me. This is not true if smargaret is scum.

You don't seem to think that anyone other than smargaret, Sworddancer, or myself could be scum. What is the problem with lynching Ranmaru --> Cello --> Sworddancer? It still covers every one of your suspicions.

Also, if you unvote me, I'll vote for myself. That will clear you of suspicion in the same way that Sworddancer and Kevin are clear, and will make the Day after my lynch much easier.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Read the first sentence of Cello's last post. We're not considering them scum, we're considering you scum. That's a contingency plan. It's been a long time since Cello has said something logical.

 

[#HBC | J]

Cello's way of clearing people and accusing people of scum is just......so wrong.

Like it's not even sensical. It's just saying if the sun is pointing at a tree at a certain time and the shadow of said tree is pointing at the direction of 273 degrees when the correct leaf blows into said position then said person IS TOTALLY SCUM without a shadow of a doubt. (pun lol)

But yea it's complete jibberish.

I'm honestly am thinking but still reading some posts.

 

[#HBC | J]

Cello in your mind: I am 100% and am Smarg's scum buddy?

 

[#HBC | J]

Did Cello really try and claim Mafia?

....Really?

 

[Cello_Marl]

If scum CAN win by hammering, then they WILL win by hammering. Thus, if Ranmaru is scum, Sworddancer and Kevin cannot be scum. Why is this so difficult to understand?

 

[#HBC | J]

So all they would have to do is not hammer and they are considered 100% town to you for the rest of the game?

 

[Cello_Marl]

Cello in your mind: I am 100% and am Smarg's scum buddy?

You are 100% Ranmaru's scumbuddy.

Did Cello really try and claim Mafia?

....Really?

I sure did.

And it took 3 ****ing pages for Ranmaru to put his vote on me for it.

Because I might have self-hammered.

And denied discussion.

What do you think of that, J?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

If scum CAN win by hammering, then they WILL win by hammering. Thus, if Ranmaru is scum, Sworddancer and Kevin cannot be scum. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Thus, if Ranmaru is scum, Sworddancer and Kevin cannot be scum. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Thus, if Ranmaru is scum, Sworddancer and Kevin cannot be scum.

Thus, if Ranmaru is scum,

Thus, if Ranmaru is scum,

Thus, if Ranmaru is scum,

Wow, you really are a ****ing idiot.

 

[Cello_Marl]

So all they would have to do is not hammer and they are considered 100% town to you for the rest of the game?

Yes. Because, given the current situation, if they were scum, they would simply choose to WIN BY LYNCHING ME. Since they have not/will not, they are 100% Town.

 

[ranmaru]

I fell asleep. I slept about this thread. <3

Anyways, point in lynches is scum hunting bro.

You can't be suspicious of me for being SUSPICIOUS OF YOU.

 

[Cello_Marl]

July, we can put us on the path to victory RIGHT NOW. All you have to do is unvote, so I can vote for myself, then DON'T lynch me. That will PROVE that you are Town toMorrow.

I will die toMorrow. If I am scum and trying to trick you, then I WILL die toMorrow. If I am telling the truth, then we will win. In either case, I WILL DIE. There is NO reason to throw the game away.

 

[ranmaru]

July, don't listen. Town doesn't prioritize to prove themselves town. We need to find scum.

If you prove yourself town, you are a red target for scum. This is what Cello wants.

 

[Cello_Marl]

July, don't listen. Town doesn't prioritize to prove themselves town. We need to find scum.

If you prove yourself town, you are a red target for scum. This is what Cello wants.

That doesn't make any sense.

How does proving a player to be Town HURT the town? What advantage would scum-Cello get from this?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Kevin, reversely, you can put us on the real path of victory by voting Cello.

 

[ranmaru]

Scum Cello could kill that player in the night.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Scum Cello could kill that player in the night.

..........

Really? So, by that logic, Ryker being confirmed Town hurts the town. Is this true?

 

[ranmaru]

If scum CAN win by hammering, then they WILL win by hammering. Thus, if Ranmaru is scum, Sworddancer and Kevin cannot be scum. Why is this so difficult to understand?

It's not. You see, you forget that once another lynch happens, Smarg flips. You are distracting us from that flip.

 

[ranmaru]

..........

Really? So, by that logic, Ryker being confirmed Town hurts the town. Is this true?

You claimed Mafia, you tell me.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Is Ryker being confirmed Town harmful to the Town because he will will Night Killed toNight?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Exactly, so ignore Cello, Ran. He's simply trying to keep people talking so he can find SOMETHING to hold onto.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

You are distracting us from that flip.

That's what I was aiming at.

 

[Cello_Marl]

If so, how?

If not, then why is July being confirmed Town harmful to the Town?

 

[ranmaru]

That's what I was aiming at.

Yeah. I guess we should wait for J and see what else he thinks.

 

[#HBC | J]

I leave for 20 minutes and stupidity ensues....

 

[Cello_Marl]

July, why does Ranmaru believe that you being confirmed Town would be harmful to the Town?

 

[Cello_Marl]

J, why wouldn't Ranmaru vote for me after I claimed mafia? What is his motivation for doing this as Town?

 

[July]

Clearly, if we are considering Kevin and Swords as scum, then we must assume that I am Town, since we KNOW that one of smargaret and Ranmaru is scum. We already know that if we mislynch toDay and Ranmaru is scum, then Town has lost.

Since I am at L-1 with you, J, Ranmaru and Ryker voting for me, we KNOW that if Kevin or Sworddancer were scum, they could have won by simply hammering me. This is not true if smargaret is scum.

You don't seem to think that anyone other than smargaret, Sworddancer, or myself could be scum. What is the problem with lynching Ranmaru --> Cello --> Sworddancer? It still covers every one of your suspicions.

Also, if you unvote me, I'll vote for myself. That will clear you of suspicion in the same way that Sworddancer and Kevin are clear, and will make the Day after my lynch much easier.

The thing is I'm not considering Swords and Kevin scum together. I'm considering Smarg scum. Smarg scum means the people not cleared town are you, myself, Swords, Kevin, and J, and obviously I know I'm town. Of the four people still suspect, you and Swords are far and away the most likely candidate to be Smarg's scum buddy. I do not want to waste a mislynch.

Also, even by your logic, with I disagree with, since Swords and Kevin haven't even posted yet since Ran voted you...how can they be cleared if they haven't even had the chance to hammer you yet lol?

Cello, you will still be on the guillotine toMorrow and you will still have a vote. On a Smarg scum flip who would you want to lynch next? Would Kevin and Swords still be cleared of suspicion?

I'm fine with leaving my vote here Cello.

 

[#HBC | J]

Omg it is way too late for this.

Cello, if I am not Ran's scumbuddy then he is town according to your logic, correct?

 

[July]

July, why does Ranmaru believe that you being confirmed Town would be harmful to the Town?

I think he realizes its faulty logic and isn't going to prove I'm town just like it doesn't prove Swords and Kevin are town.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

J, Cello is grasping at straws, don't humor his idiocy.

Instead, convince Swords or Kevin to end this day.

 

[Cello_Marl]

July, YOU ARE WRONG about smargaret. BECAUSE you are wrong about smargaret AND about me, if I am lynched, then WE LOSE TODAY. There is NO REASON to NOT lynch Ranmaru first to cover our bases. Lynching Ranmaru GUARANTEES THAT WE GET A 3RD AVAILABLE MISLYNCH, BECAUSE IT GUARANTEES THAT WE LYNCH SCUM TODAY. The ONLY way that we will live to toMorrow at this rate is if smargaret is scum. But, SHE IS ALREADY LYNCHED. I WILL BE LYNCHED TOMORROW. IF WE ARE SCUM, WE CANNOT SURVIVE.

HAMMER RANMARU.

 

[Cello_Marl]

I think he realizes its faulty logic and isn't going to prove I'm town just like it doesn't prove Swords and Kevin are town.

If he "realized that it was faulty logic", then why didn't he simply state that? Instead, he talked as though it did (WHICH IT DOES, IF RANMARU IS SCUM).

 

[#HBC | J]

*poke a Cello*

You ignored me to move onto July.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

July, YOU ARE WRONG about smargaret. BECAUSE you are wrong about smargaret AND about me, if I am lynched, then WE LOSE TODAY. There is NO REASON to NOT lynch Ranmaru first to cover our bases. Lynching Ranmaru GUARANTEES THAT WE GET A 3RD AVAILABLE MISLYNCH, BECAUSE IT GUARANTEES THAT WE LYNCH SCUM TODAY. The ONLY way that we will live to toMorrow at this rate is if smargaret is scum. But, SHE IS ALREADY LYNCHED. I WILL BE LYNCHED TOMORROW. IF WE ARE SCUM, WE CANNOT SURVIVE.

HAMMER RANMARU.

Aw, did baby lose his pacifier? Temper, temper.

 

[ranmaru]

This is the first time I have seen stances from Cello about Smarg.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@J: No. Technically, July could be Ranmaru's partner as well, but I don't believe that to be the case. I want to PROVE that by having her remove her vote so I can self-vote, since she would then fall under the same category as Kevin and Sworddancer.

If I self-vote and the game is still ongoing, however, then IF you are Town, then yes, Ranmaru would have to be Town.

 

[ranmaru]

"you are wrong about smargaret AND about me, if I am lynched, then WE LOSE TODAY"

We referring to him and Smargaret.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Every time I consider self-hammering and ending this, I see Ryker post something and think of how sweet it will be when I end up saving the Town from him.