Rusty Guillotine Mafia | Ovah

[#HBC | Ryker]

I still think previous plan is pretty solid and I deeply endorse.

I wouldn't like it because I would be mislynched. Safest to have the least amount of mislynches.

Also getting removed from the game sucks (even if it's a Day later).

You're not the raving lunatic.

 

[#HBC | J]

*nod nod*

I'm still waiting on July/Cello and Gord to have his final say before I hammer.

Ryker, you'll be here, psh. If not the mafia are not smart Or they have their RB'er but *shrug* I could also die as well Ryker bro. Doubtful but still possible.

Lol I just realized we crippled the Mafia's Role Cop PR as well besides to find out who is the redeemed soul and miller is. XD

 

[July]

July, who would you vote for first.

Cello correct? Kay.

How would you feel to being lynched toMorrow?

Between Cello and Swords, Cello is by far more scummy. Have you made up your mind that you are not voting for Ran toMorrow? Because that I'm still not sure if that's a risk worth taking.

I'm not okay with being lynched toMorrow because then that's two pretty much guaranteed mislynches in Gord and me (granted Gord hasn't flipped yet but if he is scum I would prolly have a heart attack). Then we just have to pray that Smarg really is scum, and that's way way too much faith in one read, no matter how strong of a read you say it is. The original plan is best because we actually know we will survive past Day 4.

 

[smargaret]

catching up now, I've been out.

 

[#HBC | J]

*prepares behind fortress from Smarg's rage*

/o_o\

 

[smargaret]

@Kevin: Why not lynch me before the other of Ranmaru/smargaret? If we pick correctly toDay, then we would KNOW the Voyeur is telling the truth and NOT have to mislynch. Scum hunting is great and all, but if you can KNOW that a player is town and STILL want to lynch that person, then that doesn't really help, does it?

No. Just no. Cello, the ONLY way that can happen is if Gboy flips scum. Then you can go before Ran, since from a quick skim it looks like I'm getting lynched today. Otherwise, we have to lynch Ran after me because we'll be down two mislynches and town knowing for sure that Ran is scum will help them find his scumbuddy instead of shooting in the dark.

 

[#HBC | J]

People are gonna have to coax me why not to lynch Cello toMorrow and Ran in his place.

I feel scum scaping themselves behind the safe option.

The fact Smarg is also considering Gordy scum after toDay's actions is amusing.

 

[July]

July your logic is EXACTLY like Smarg's logic at the moment.

Smarg, "One of GLG/J HAS to be scum"

July, "One of Smarg/J HAS to be scum"

Do you have a problem with sounding just like her?

I don't remember what Smarg's logic was behind her saying one of you/GLG HAS to be scum, but you and her were scum buddies and she said that, that is really stupid considering GLG was looking like he was going to be lynched and she would know he would flip town. So I have no problem saying that you two are mutually exclusive scum picks at this point.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

*prepares behind fortress from Smarg's rage*

/o_o\

No. Just no. Cello, the ONLY way that can happen is if Gboy flips scum. Then you can go before Ran, since from a quick skim it looks like I'm getting lynched today. Otherwise, we have to lynch Ran after me because we'll be down two mislynches and town knowing for sure that Ran is scum will help them find his scumbuddy instead of shooting in the dark.

I think it's coming.

 

[Dooms]

Vote: Smarg

You're still on town's side through tomorrow so I hope you the best in helping us win~ ^_^

 

[#HBC | J]

Joey! WTH! This time YOU ACTUALLY HAMMERED.

 

[#HBC | J]

Vote: Smarg

You're still on town's side through tomorrow so I hope you the best in helping us win~ ^_^

No offense but disregarding claims and everything said this game, unless someone claimed mafia, this is the most scummiest post I have ever seen in my history of playing.

 

[smargaret]

Unvote
Vote: Smargaret

^for emphasis

Seriously, Smarg is 100% less believable and 100% more scummy then Ranmaru.

Ryker, do you honestly think Ran would keep forgetting not once but twice who he NK'd? I mean seriously if he is mafia then bra-fricking-vo because I am fooled. I'm comfortable with Smarg>Cello after reading some of Ran's posts in respect.

Futile at this point since we're both getting lynched anyway, but when Ran flips scum, look closely at J. Note the "NK'd".

 

[#HBC | J]

Futile at this point since we're both getting lynched anyway, but when Ran flips scum, look closely at J. Note the "NK'd".

Futile? No.

Also what to note about the NK?

 

[smargaret]

EBWOP: What I mean is, J is pointing out what is clearly a WIFOM attempt. It's already been pointed out that "Ran wouldn't make mistakes like that" - he's deliberately giving examples of making mistakes to try to prove towniness.

 

[#HBC | J]

Smarg's twisting of words is cute =o

 

[#HBC | J]

Lol, I'm just gonna let Gord rip Joey a new one.

I would love to but it's too easy and futile.

I'm still not happy my questions are now probably gonna be ignored unless we get a 24 hour twilight in which we can have stuff answered.

 

[th3kuzinator]

D2 Final Vote Count (6/10)

J (0):
smargaret (6): Ranmaru, Ryker, Sworddancer, July, Cello, Joey
Ranmaru (1): Smarg
-Joey- (0):
Gordito (0):
July (0):
Sworddancer. (0):
Cello_Marl (0):
Ryker (0):
KevinM (0):

Not Voting (3): KevinM, Gordito, J

Smarg is currently standing next to the rusty guillotine and will be thrown upon it once I post the Night flip. Play nice~

 

[smargaret]

What?

What?

Are you just not listening to me? What's so difficult to understand about the point I'm making?

Let's look at it this way. Let's say that you are town, and smargaret is scum, and we choose to lynch smargaret toDay. ToNight, Joey will die.

ToMorrow, according to your plan and Kevin's plan and idiocy's plan, we would lynch you. At that time, smargaret would flip scum, and we would have just put the Voyeur on the chopping block for no ****ing reason whatsoever. The Day after will see me put on the chopping block because J and Ryker are ********, which will mean we run out of mislynches. If you don't think I'm going to be lynched after you two (should we take that route), then you're ****ing stupid.

What if, instead, we chose to lynch me? WE WOULD KNOW THAT YOU TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT BEING THE VOYEUR. We would then...NOT LYNCH YOU, BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU'RE TOWN.

It's not WIFOM, it's "we ****ing know there is a Voyeur in this game, and there ISN'T going to be another counter-claim". Yes, you will die that Night for this, because you are CONFIRMED ****ING TOWN. BUT, that means we STILL have our 3rd mislynch, instead of squandering it on CONFIRMED ****ING TOWN.

The scenario above makes just as much sense if we switch your name and smargaret's name.

The difference between the two of you lies in the people that think that you are scum and those that think that smargaret is scum. To a man, the people voting for smargaret think that I am her scummate. WONDERFUL. FINE. I don't ****ing care. BUT, we THREE shall BE the next three lynches, so it shouldn't really matter to them in what order we die. But, it DOES to me, because I KNOW that they are wrong, and as block-headed as those morons are, they won't lynch the real 2nd scum after we're both gone (that scum being KevinM).

@J: You think that smargaret/me is the scum team, correct? That being the case, does it really matter if we lynch Ranmaru instead of smargaret first, since I'm going to be lynched toMorrow?

Cello, the point is that there is 1 town and 1 scum in {me, Ran}. If we lynch the wrong one and you are town and we lynch you tomorrow and we were wrong about Gboy, WE HAVE LOST. If we lynch wrong today and Gboy was town, which we will know, it's LYLO tomorrow.

If Gboy flips scum, then by all means, lynch Cello tomorrow. But in the worst case scenario where that doesn't happen, WE NEED TO GET A CONFIRMED SCUM LYNCH.

 

[Dooms]

I'm going to be honest and say that I didn't think it was the hammer lol.

My point still stands with no regrets though.

 

[smargaret]

July, does that mean you will change your vote to Smarg now?

Also I want people to seriously look at Smarg vs. Ran and how willing they are to cooperate.

tl;dr version

Ran "Kay guys lynch me then lynch smarg. I don't care what the order just make sure we die."

Smarg "Guys I'm fine with being lynched but Ran must be lynched before me. Then I will be lynched in peace."

Really? Smarg has got to go.

Uh, no. Try this tl;dr:

Ran: "Kay guys lynch me then lynch smarg. I don't care what the order just make sure we die."

Smarg: "Kay guys lynch us both but take the time to figure out which is more likely scum so we take away a scum pr for a night and in the best case scenario get another night of results."

If Ran's the rolecop it doesn't do too much, but if Ran's the RB, then you've got the RB on the guillotine and unable to act, the scum will probably kill Joey because he's more dangerous, and I'll be free to get results. We're here until deadline anyway, why not make the most of a bad situation?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Joey and his hammer:

 

[Dooms]

My current regrets in this game:

1

Letting KevinM live through day 1 :@

 

[#HBC | J]

You didn't even check before voting?

You just voted just cuz.....?

*facepalm*

Honestly and you have the decentcy to say "lol no regrets though." when we were still talking, Gord didn't get what he wanted to say, Smarg didn't get to continue her points, my questions being answered, and Kevin not posting anything related to the lynch. No you took it in YOUR hands to lynch someone when we were still chatting.

Please stop quickhammering in games, it doesn't help AT ALL.

 

[smargaret]

@J: Yeah, as of recent events I'm unsurprisingly thinking Ran/Cello =/= scum team, Smarg and Cello still a definite possibility. Also, has Smarg provided us with any reads since the voyeur cc incident? I know Ran did (he listed Smarg, July, J as possible scum) but I either don't remember her scum picks other than Ran or they don't exist.

Unvote
Vote: Smargaret

I've been AFK all day; I did give stances on who were plausible scumbuddies for Ran yesterday (J and Ryker for their absurd defense, Ryker is obviously clear and I already thought J was scummy so I'm pretty happy with a J/Ran scumteam).

 

[smargaret]

J, why do you keep asking people how they'd feel about getting lynched tomorrow? We're lynching Ran tomorrow. Period.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Willing to stake the game on Smarg scum.

 

[#HBC | J]

J, why do you keep asking people how they'd feel about getting lynched tomorrow? We're lynching Ran tomorrow. Period.

Lol no. Cute, but no.

Willing to stake the game on Smarg scum.

Lol yes. Why am I so happy you are in this game?

 

[Dooms]

I read through and I didn't see a vote on him from when someone said she was at L-2.

Sorry I missed it.

 

[smargaret]

Futile? No.

Also what to note about the NK?

J, Joey just frelling HAMMERED me. Tell me, in what universe does that make my lynch NOT inevitable and thus my defense of myself futile?

 

[Dooms]

*her.... I am so sorry T_T;

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm gonna call B.S. on that Joey because both Cello/July voted for her and then I even quoted all the posts plus me talking to Ryker about hammering for quite some times makes me think otherwise.

W/e there is absolutely nothing we can do and no use crying of spilt milk.

 

[#HBC | J]

J, Joey just frelling HAMMERED me. Tell me, in what universe does that make my lynch NOT inevitable and thus my defense of myself futile?

I thought you were talking about Joey's hammer.

 

[smargaret]

Okay, Joey, it was happening regardless, but you have to help me get the real scum lynched tomorrow and not let J steamroll this town to a loss.

 

[#HBC | J]

LOL!

Ryker, you seeing this?

She's going to Joey.

Desperate person is desperate.

 

[July]

Lol no. Cute, but no.

J, you realize you are at least going to have to fight and get everyone to agree with you. Just because you and Ryker are willing to risk everything on a scum read doesn't mean that the majority does.

 

[#HBC | J]

Of course. That's how you play the game. It's an art of persuasion.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm confident we can do it.

 

[#HBC | J]

Even if they kill Ryker, I believe I can convince everyone.

Even if they kill me, I believe Ryker can convince everyone.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

One of us dying would be amazing, tbqh.