Roy's Our Boy - General Hype/Discussion Thread

[darkoblivion12]

Can Roy still use 4th hit of DED without turning it around?

 

[ph00tbag]

Can Roy still use 4th hit of DED without turning it around?

Roy has four fourth hits on DED. One for each cardinal direction.

 

[DMG]

Roy's recovery looks very fair. I wish more characters were like him honestly.

Edit: Ftilt talks, the move is very good and akin to Ganon's Ftilt SWORD VERSION. Dtilt is a great move but can struggle to hit people a bit above Roy. Ftilt can cover that same distance, but actually hit people who are SHing at him. Because of the reach, you can angle it upwards or neutral and not be punished that hard if the person happens to be grounded instead of in the air. The lunge/reach is pretty damn big.

 

[PsionicSabreur]

Pretty new to Project M but a Roy main from Melee, although not a very experienced one. Excited to try the new Roy, but I have some questions.

Based on the footage I've seen, it looks like the third forward hit of DED has been swapped out for an upward-sweeping hit, or maybe the old up hit has been moved to forward and the upwards-sweep is now up, or something to that effect, at least. I'm not really complaining, but I am curious if this changes his options for the move. Seems like the entire point now is to set up the fourth hit, without an option to "break the sequence" with a launcher anymore. Is this an accurate analysis?

In general, I'm ecstatic with the addition of Roy, and it really looks like they did a great job, and paid attention to a lot of details. An example of this would be the counter animation. In Melee, Marth counters with an upwards swing, while Roy attacks with an overhead blow. I was happy to see that the animators actually paid attention to this and kept it this way, however petty that is. The attention to detail is a great sign.
That actually brings me to another question: is the hitbox size by any chance increased or otherwise made to work with the weird momentum stop caused by counter? This caused Roy to commonly whiff the counterattack on enemies when countering an aerial from below, for example, or when countering an anti-air when trying to get to the ground, especially when used after or during a jump. In general, it is just like the rest of Roy's game in Melee (generally useless in and/or against air) because of a good opponent's tendency to attack ahead of your movement arc, exactly where counter will never reliably put you. It would be nice if counter changed to reflect the shiny new aerial game, since it could add a lot of strategic mixups. Finish a combo by countering their frantic combo-breaker nair? Sounds pretty neat. Just a thought, though.

 

[GeZ]

I was playing a lot of Roy yesterday, trying to get familiar with him so I could get a better gauge of his strengths and just because he's a whole ****load of fun, and I ended up playing against a Marth. Now, the player is much better than me, their tech being more consistent and grab and tech chase game being pretty solid, but, get this, I WON. Roy just seemed to have the right tools to deal with Marth, and while the games were close, I consistently did better than him. I'm not saying this as something on the matchup because of how little I've played it, but from what I've experienced so far, the matchup seems even for Roy, maybe, just maybe a little positive. So yeah, all aboard the HYPE TRAIN!
CHOO CHOO!

 

[Seraphim.]

Winter can't come soon enough..

 

[Strawhat09]

I bet you the Marth/Roy Mu is even. I think they both have the tools to combo each other.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I bet you the Marth/Roy Mu is even. I think they both have the tools to combo each other.

imo that MU is completely dependent on who has better spacing. If the Roy can get in close, he dominates, if the Marth can keep Roy at tipper range, Roy can't really do anything.

 

[Xinc]

A quick question: Is Roy's sword still slightly shorter than Marth's? And I don't mean the sweet spot, I just meant the general range.

No subliminal meaning. Don't add anything.

 

[GunBlaze]

A quick question: Is Roy's sword still slightly shorter than Marth's? And I don't mean the sweet spot, I just meant the general range.

No subliminal meaning. Don't add anything.

I assume it still is, cosidering they nailed down all the details.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

Will Roy's counter have a minimum?Like how Marth's in brawl did at least 7% with a certain amount of knockback.

I am guessing no since this is like melee and not brawl.

 

[KUKU]

Will Roy's counter have a minimum?Like how Marth's in brawl did at least 7% with a certain amount of knockback.

I am guessing no since this is like melee and not brawl.

It looks like it's his normal 1.5x damage counter, I dunno about knockback though.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

It looks like it's his normal 1.5x damage counter, I dunno about knockback though.

I know that what I mean is how if Roy countered a 2% attack it would do 3% damage with no knockback,while if Ike countered a 2% attack it would do 10% with enough knockback to hit them away.

My question is if Roy's counter will have a set minimum in damage and knockback so we can counter things like jabs and not get punished.

 

[Kuraudo]

Roy's counter is beyond amazing. Roy's more brutal fighting style intrigues me more.

 

[Infamous_Prime]

all i want is dtilt->fsmash. but it looks like theyre giving me even more than that<3

 

[Jade_Rock55]

Backward side b is great!

Can Marth have one?Sounds fun but I am guessing no so Roy and marth can be different.

 

[Seraphim.]

I just want to spam his sexy Nair.

 

[GeZ]

I just want to spam his sexy Nair.

His Nair is indeed sexy. Active frames for EONS!

 

[JesseMcCloud]

all i want is dtilt->fsmash. but it looks like theyre giving me even more than that<3

Just when I thought that my swordsman of choise had been decided...
And Prime, may I ask where you got that avatar pic? DeviantArt?

 

[Mr.Random]

I get the feeling that the Project: M team won't delve into all new characters, so that despite this being a fan-made mod of Brawl it doesn't dig into the integrity of Smash for the Wii U/3DS.

I'd be perfectly happy with Roy, Mewtwo and Pichu (only because we were teased it in the April Fools video) being the only Melee veterans to return. I understand that this will probably be a very unpopular opinion, but Dr. Mario has been surpassed by the now viable Mario and unless they make some drastic changes to him, he'll just be a re-skinned Mario. All he'll have left that Mario didn't take is his pills. Young Link was spiritually replaced by Toon Link, and unless they decide to make Young Link utilize a different moveset that utilizes his Masks (Majora's Mask style Y.Link), he'll have clone written all over him. I know the same thing can be said about Roy but the problem I find is that when the team re-created Toon Link and Mario especially, they did so while taking some of their previous versions' strengths, taking away what was special about Doc and Y.Link in Melee.

Of course this is all my opinion and if we got EVERYONE back and they were all unique? All the more power to the development team, but that's just my take.

I'd rather have no brand new characters though. I'm excited for the new Smash, after all.

Doc's ******** reverse sex kick, weird up tilt, and Up B cancel. Y.Link not sure what strengths they didn't take.

 

[Infamous_Prime]

Just when I thought that my swordsman of choise had been decided...
And Prime, may I ask where you got that avatar pic? DeviantArt?

I actually just googled marth pics and eventually found it. I would not be surprised if it was on deviant art somewhere due to the fab level of it lol.

 

[| Kailex |]

The link (dont know why though): http://s1.zerochan.net/600/45/25/998795.jpg

 

[J1NG]

I'm not sure how relevant this post is at this point, but I had an idea for Roy that I just had to post.
I think it would be interesting if he could cancel his jab with a tilt. D-tilt might seem like the strongest follow up, but I think if f-tilt did more dmg/knockback, it would be worth using.

 

[Spiffykins]

^ me, the instant i started controlling Roy

 

[GingaBread]

Roy feels so good. His nair and f-tilt (especially good angled down for techchases/ledgeguards) are insane. And dat f-smash. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Gamegenie222]

Yo Roy plays smooth like a mug man does it feel good to be a Roy player right now. It's like santa clause came early and buffed your character and now he's supercharged and going ham with Roy is actually possible now.

 

[Seraphim.]

Dat Ftilt tho

 

[NameChange]

I like playing Roy dittos because I hear a lot of grunting and shouting

 

[GeZ]

I like playing Roy dittos because I hear a lot of grunting and shouting

At least it's not Ice Climber dittos. That **** is a mess, or alternatively, swinger heaven.

 

[Banjodorf]

So, coming from someone who never enjoyed playing Roy AT ALL in Melee (aerials FTL!) I've gotta say, he's AMAZING!

-Nair of the GODS.
-Dsmash ftw
-Dem tilts.

He just feels great. More aggressive, more threatening, and more ph1r3. Honestly I can't decide who I'm enjoying more between he and Mewtwo, because you guys did such a phenomenal job.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

Same here roy and mewtwo are both awsome.

 

[tripwire]

I just wanted to join in on the 3.0 hype and just say I've been going nuts with Roy and enjoying every stock I take from my friends. I can't tell if he will be high on a tier list yet obviously but damn is he fun to play and flashy. Cross up Nair is sexy. CC to Fsmash/Dsmash seemed ok too. I had some troubles against R.O.B. I'm guessing anyone mostly airborne/ more range than Roy will be trouble.

Hoping for frame data and match up threads soon. Maybe we should discuss Roy's off stage edgeguarding against the tether grabbing characters. Also Roys recov may be on the same line as Falcos* short and more than less predictable, but I was able to escape pretty well with using my Up B high and diagonal to avoid things and get to a platform. I feel like there is a lot to Roy than meets the eye especially to a patient player.

 

[EmptySky00]

I'm here to make a request. Can you PLEASE. PLEASE. Make it so he doesn't say HOH every damn time he jumps? It's grating as hell. But it's not like there's a lot of jumping in sma--owait. Can the rate be lowered? It's even worse in dittos. That is all.

 

[Mono.]

Man up and eat your hohs. You're not getting desert until you finish them.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Man up and eat your hohs. You're not getting desert until you finish them.

This is the greatest thing that has ever been posted on Smashboards.

You win sir, you win.

 

[Yeerk]

I've jumped on the Roy hype train/bandwagon. FIRE.

 

[tripwire]

Man up and eat your hohs. You're not getting desert until you finish them.

I always eat my Hohs....

 

[jayeldeee]

I'm here to make a request. Can you PLEASE. PLEASE. Make it so he doesn't say HOH every damn time he jumps? It's grating as hell. But it's not like there's a lot of jumping in sma--owait. Can the rate be lowered? It's even worse in dittos. That is all.

Seems like your avatar fits how you're feeling about this.

 

[Tuvillo]

I've jumped on the Roy hype train/bandwagon. FIRE.

Did you go "hoh" when you jumped?

 

[Gamegenie222]

So yeah I was thinking with all of the Buffs they gave Roy, how would they change his MU's from Melee especially the bad MU's like Shiek vs Roy for example?