RDR7
Smash Cadet
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2015
- Messages
- 62
Aye I feel you so hard dude. We play different characters but we see eye to eye. My character went from top tier to utterly horrible from Melee to Brawl and she hasn't been the same since. It was the hardest nerf in the series. From nerfed hitboxes, nerfed frame data, nerfed mobility, to damage nerfs, everything across the board was worse. So being the naive player I was back in 2012 I gave Puff a chance not knowing what a tier list is. Maining Puff in Brawl was an excruciating experience for me, but it helped me learn fundamentals, insane offstage play, and how to tank through a bad matchup. Getting bodied left and right, and having no motivation due to the lack of professional puff players with the exception of Dapuffster (who quit puff for mii brawler) was hard for me. I didn't win much but again, I learned a lot from that experience and eventually became a respected player in my region. However with Jigglypuff only being slightly buffed from Brawl, looking over some of her nerfed frame data and insanely questionable design choices infuriates me.I wish his mobility could beat at least any defensive options and he had more than t-rex grab range to compliment it. Everything's still pretty unsafe and he can't really utilize that mobility like better characters.
I got merced by people running around and holding shield the whole match while I couldn't do anything to so much as pressure them any, it was annoying to fight. I got utilt shoryukened from 17 to 70/80 and died to rage shoryuken multiple times. People counted the utilts on one stock. 22 of them while I was smash DI'ing in a lot of directions and I watched myself fall out and get hit while in hitstun or landing again. I got utilted pretty hard by a bad Toon Link and they got me to kill percent on my second stock even though I won, it bothered me because he was pretty bad and had an FG playstyle. Bayonetta destroyed me and I couldn't do anything. I got utilt combo'd and edgeguarded at low percents when I choked on recovery to Mario. I struggled really hard against characters like Corrin and Cloud who have a lot of safe stuff and just weren't balanced as DLC swordfighters with Roy in mind, so he was left in the dust. I let down my partner in doubles, even if it was friendlies, because Roy didn't have the tools to handle a 2v1 vs. Corrin and Cloud, and just got grabbed and died.
I've been dedicated to competitive play and Roy for a while and I'm still getting poor results and making the character look worse. I feel like I struggle trying to win with my character, and that as a player I can't contribute here at all even when I try. I single out every single thing to improve on and work on it asap for hours, but when I so much as let a little of frustration out, people immediately say they'll do it with hard work and it creates more pressure. I get it, I'll never do it, but people are so quick to count me out as soon as I feel even a little frustration which hurts. Though they're not wrong to.
I feel like my colon's going to pop in neutral. I feel like my combo throws don't combo properly at all, people keep falling out of DED and punishing me or it stops linking after 2-3 hits, punish windows are so close and never go through, DI completely butchers some of his kill moves, Roy can't kill without committing really hard or reading, and so many things just don't work. I'm working so hard for any reward while my opponents get it so easily. Blazer and up smash's "linking" hitboxes are such a joke. His confirms are really difficult and unsafe.
I know I'll never win a tournament or do well otherwise, so I don't know why I'm thinking about it so much. All I can do is hope for results, hope for buffs, or never see anything. It's just a repeat of Melee where Roy's a worse version of Marth nobody wants to play and I don't want to go through it again, where I'm incapable yet again, but it is what it is. I just have to embrace and accept it so that the community goes easier on us, I guess. If people get negative enough about Roy, he'll more likely see the buffs he needs to succeed in competitive play. That's really the only thing I can hope for. That's why I just stopped caring, because he needs them.
Playing Roy in tournaments again made me realize how poorly he's designed for tournament play. Other characters have been balanced for tournament play for a while for some reason. It hurts knowing Roy might never get a DK/Ike/Mewtwo/Marthcina treatment, he's poorly designed and has no real strengths or good matchups while he struggles with so much and gets so little reward. I invest so much and try so hard, but it feels like I'm going nowhere and like I'm so limited and struggling hard.
I'll keep pushing the character, sure, but I'm ready to continue being 0-to-deathed, losing to dumb stuff in neutral I can't do anything about from so many characters, and getting clipped or destroyed even when I'm trying to be safe. I'm not going to lie to myself when playing Roy is depressingly difficult with a game community and ongoing development team who keep making it harder every time. Maybe he'll get results someday, but I don't know why I play if I know I don't have a chance at being that amazing player. Bang's been in Smash 4 for three months with Diddy and he's learned so many fundamentals I still struggle with. He's doing better against good players than I ever will. I'm not cut out for this game, my passion's useless and so is my favorite character.
With everyone getting buffed and changed except Puff I don't see any reason as to why she isn't visible to the developers when her flaws can be easily fixed. My throw game is almost useless, I'm on my toes in some matchups even at 60 percent, my reward for punishing isn't good enough, my best OOS option isn't safe on hit until low midpercent (dash attack), rage benefits me the least and actually works against me more than it helps me, blast KOs off the top can make rest unsafe on hit and to add more salt in the wound rest doesn't kill early enough for that punishment to be anywhere near reasonable. I have a lot more gripes but these are only a few.
On top of this my character is ignored heavily by the devs never getting buffs, always talked down on in the competitive impressions thread or almost anywhere on smashboards, heavily underestimated, and I've even had shots fired at me for maining a "crappy character" instead of being like everyone else and maining Cloud/Bayonetta or just joining the top tier train. It hurts me on the inside really badly, but I manage to get results off of hard studying, ballsy decisions, and in the end blow some minds making people question their own opinion. So to me in my eyes anyone can do it, with the right mentality, enough confidence, and loyalty. I respect you for being persistent, constantly trying, constantly pushing it, and going into a bad matchup knowing how flawed your character is. That's how low tier heroes are born. I encourage you to keep pushing it with Roy, however if you switch to Diddy it's understandable. Just know either way I'll be rooting for you. Fight for our boy.