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Uh, no?
is broken ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Tiers, just like in any game, do serve a purpose. They are a general consensus on where each character stands. In Melee for example, it would be much harder to discuss the viability of Luigi because we would have no shared notion of how good Luigi is. Tier lists really are just quantifying information that's already out there and putting it in a more cohesive form. Also without tier lists we wouldn't have our low tier and middle tier heroes, because again there would be no general understanding of how good the characters are, and seeing aMSa wreck people with Yoshi wouldn't be nearly as cool. The people who only play as certain characters because they're high on the tier list are undoubtedly robbing themselves of fun though.
You present a valid point consisting of things I really wasn't thinking of at the time of my post. So congratulations and thank you, I learned something today. Though I am rather curious to see where Roy places on the tier list.
I, too, enjoy Ganondorf.
This.
I completely agree with you, many of the mid and even low tier characters can and have been competing with the higher tiers in the right hands more frequently then the past games. One of the things I really like about Smash 4 is that the best character in the game, which is Shiek IMO, isn't some ludicrously good soul crushing force that 64 Pikachu, Melee Fox, and Brawl Meta Knight were. Oh sure Shiek is still really good, but she is an actual character with legitimate strengths and weaknesses, unlike the other characters (Fox less so but still not exempt) who are simply defined as "the best". Let's be honest though, the only reason this time around is any different is the fact that Nintendo could patch the game. Otherwise we would've been in for one heck of a ride with pre-patch Diddy and Rosalina.
I feel like custome Palutena and Roy would be great doubles partners. Same with Lucina, not so much Marth. Palutena could be the main defensive reaction esc one while Roy/Lucina puts in the damage. BThrow to Palutena U/S smash...Customs also make a difference.
Tell that toCustoms also make a difference.
, especially Mewtwo, poor guy didn't catch a ride on the buff train from Melee like Roy did. I guess he had to take the slight buff taxi to get to Smash 4 instead.
Literally, have you heard that laugh? Decreasing Mewtwo's weight was a decision that never made sense to me. I have to assume they overestimated Mewtwo's damage output and kill power and were afraid of having their first dlc character overpowered.
I'm inclined to agree. Most custom moves seem a bit too extreme in their "trade this for that" mentality. Dolphin Jump? Heavy Dancing Blade? I'd still take Roy's default moves.
Please no maim
Though I often prefer standard moves myself, having all of the DLC characters get customs in a later update would be awesome for me. I just love the option of playing with customs, mixing things up every once and awhile.
Oh man, I mean main. Autocorrect is my mortal enemyPlease no maim
Ah, I remember my horseback riding lessons...
Your forgetting the group of people who were confused because they thought Roy was already in the game. I'm rather curious what the more casual players think of Roy, since I know some people who have no idea who he is and wish they put a different character in the game.
I'm glad. Hopefully it was from the Roy for DLC Legacy Thread (can be found on the Roy boards), royforsmash4.com, and The Royvolution's efforts as well as his new design and moveset. All of this was pushed hard on other social media platforms too. There were ****ty places like r/fireemblem and GameFAQs, but we still had a lot of success anywhere we went and persuaded a lot of people who went on to continue it. There's also a lot of people accepting defeat and being optimistic and mature on his inclusion, which I'm happy about. They aren't gonna take him out of the game by whining, so I can see why it really calmed down.
This is why i honestly dislike the people who play Roy in only smash 4. They never stuck with him during his hard times in Melee. Not many people play PM so thats not saying much. I just dont like the fact that before he came out everyone is like Roy sucks no one wants him. Day of reveal and release they say hes top tier and hes actually good. I dontt play Roy because hes good. I play Roy because hes fun and I have always played Roy and i aim to be one of the best Roy players in PM and Smash4 since Roy actually got me back into this game.
Good idea with the ballot vote.Threw in a legacy vote as a thank you and a bit of feedback.
Now that he's in, I threw in a vote for each fighter I would like to see and asked their threads to add me to their supporter lists.
Yeah... There were people who thought Roy would be the exact same as his Melee self... 100% unchanged. He was planned for Brawl, so I assume Sakurai had some plans to make him more unique like Ganon/Falco back then. Which begs the question: did some of his moveset ideas for Roy in Brawl transfer over to Smash 4 (like the reverse grip, super armour on Blazer, etc.)? Who knows.
Don't look at me, I never owned Melee! I thought he was the best character in the game the few times I got to play Melee though does that count? Although I haven't gone through the struggle I'm still going to play him in Smash 4. I bought the dlc before everyone said he was a top tier character because I love Marth and Fire Emblem, and I played with him online and it just felt right. It's funny because 3 out of the 4 characters I play the most, including my main (Falcon, Mario, and Roy) are some of the most straightforward, some would even say easy, characters in the game. But I don't play them because they're easy I play them because I enjoy Smash the most when I'm playing them. So I'm hoping you can accept some fresh faces into the ranks of Roy's army. We all have to start somewhere right?
I think he was talking more along the lines of people who play him in Smash 4 because everyone found out that he's actually a really good character.
He's way more fun in Smash 4, though. Probably won't overtake Marth again, but I might play him a little more seriously this time around.I don't know, if that was the case they'd probably just jump straight to characters like Sheik or Luigi. Besides, I can't fault them for wanting to play a character that does well considering he costs money. Heck if I was told that Roy was as bad as he was in Melee I probably wouldn't have bought him because he probably wouldn't be fun.
Yeah, it's pretty popular over here (ironically, given there's no PAL release yet). I don't play it seriously myself, but I find it more fun than Melee personally.
