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Swamp Sensei

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Your first mistake was thinking Smash is a fighting game. It's a party game that people take extreme measures to make competitive.
Eh. I'd say you're half right.

I'd classify it as a party fighter. It's still a fighting game, just a strange genre of it.
 

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Bored and with insomnia so here is my roster with main characters and the next one with all the characters:


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My friend in real life, thinks all clones should be cut, even Luigi, I was shocked when I heard this... Also want to know his most wanted character... Roy. :facepalm:.
I don't see how its absurd to have your most wanted character for Smash 4 be Roy. In general, he is among the Top 5 most wanted characters for Smash 4, and the thing is unless you have played the Metroid or Rare's DK games (or one of Nintendo's C-list franchises), the chances are your most wanted characters for Smash 4 will be either Mewtwo or Roy, considering that nearly all of the well know Nintendo characters outside the Mario series are already playable at this point.
 

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I don't see how its absurd to have your most wanted character for Smash 4 be Roy. In general, he is among the Top 5 most wanted characters for Smash 4, and the thing is unless you have played the Metroid or Rare's DK games (or one of Nintendo's C-list franchises), the chances are your most wanted characters for Smash 4 will be either Mewtwo or Roy, considering that nearly all of the well know Nintendo characters outside the Mario series are already playable at this point.
The point he was making wasn't that his friend wanted Roy.

It was that his friend wanted clones removed but made an exception for one. He was going for a sense of irony.

It's not an anti Roy thing. It a thing he found funny.
 

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The point he was making wasn't that his friend wanted Roy.

It was that his friend wanted clones removed but made an exception for one. He was going for a sense of irony.

It's not an anti Roy thing. It a thing he found funny.
Ok, its very late. I should have re-read that. I feel stupid. :laugh:
 

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A friend who I hold very dear told me that he thought Mega Man would be too similar to Samus. Erk. At least all my friends agree that King K.Rool should get in... though arguing for Ridley is still a mixed bag.

I don't really feel like we have any actual shoo-ins anymore, though. There are a fair number of characters that I feel like should have already been in the series like Toad and Little Mac, though. Still, it's hard to really be super confident about any one character.
 

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Talking about insane in real life friend predictions?

I have a friend whose roster would have been the following:

Mario
Paper Mario (with Goombario as an assist character)
Doctor Mario
Baby Mario
Metal Mario
Tanooki Mario
Fire Mario
Hotel Mario
Shadow Mario
Luigi (Mario)
Bowser
DK
Yoshi
Wario (aka; evil Mario)
Maybe Peach for a female rep. Maybe.

/End of Roster. I am not joking. Only reason Yoshi and DK made it in was because of me and our other friend being fans of the characters.

Another one thinks Optimus Prime would be really good, one wants Goku AND Frieza, one thinks Battletoads are a shoo-in, and another wants Fire Emblem removed completely because Link covers all the needs any swordsman could bring to the series.

I have others that have unlikely wants, but still technically feasible Nintendo characters like Wart, or Goombella, Fawful, Tryclyde, Tatunga and the like.

Yes, I have a lot of hardcore Mario fans as friends. Also a lot of idiots.
 

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A friend who I hold very dear told me that he thought Mega Man would be too similar to Samus. Erk. At least all my friends agree that King K.Rool should get in... though arguing for Ridley is still a mixed bag.

I don't really feel like we have any actual shoo-ins anymore, though. There are a fair number of characters that I feel like should have already been in the series like Toad and Little Mac, though. Still, it's hard to really be super confident about any one character.
I think nearly all of the obvious characters are in at this point.

However, just from the newcomers (and rumored newcomers) it seems Sakurai is really trying to put in characters that at least the mass audience will be able to recognize:

Mega Man: Iconic video game character
Villager: Face of one of Nintendo's highest selling franchises.
Wii Fit Trainer: Face of one Nintendo's highest selling franchises (Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus sold millions upon millions of copies)
Little Mac: The face of a Nintendo series that has been going on since 1984.
Mii: Player avatars became a staple on consoles, and they are basically the face of Nintendo's return to prominence in the home console market.
Pac-Man: Iconic video game character.

All of these characters are well known by casual Nintendo fans and possibly casual gamers overall.

From veteran franchises, the only characters left that most casual Nintendo fans know about that have not been made playable are various Mario universe characters (Toad, Bowser Jr., Paper Mario, Waluigi) and Ridley. K. Rool and Dixie Kong might also go under this, but I could easily see someone that did not grow up with a Super Nintendo or Nintendo 64 not being aware of who they are (heck, I know several DKC fans who don't know who K. Rool was because they never played those games to completion).

I think this is potentially another reason why Sakurai has expanded into new series, because we are basically tapped out for veteran franchise additions at this point.
 

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Sadly, not to many of my IRL friends are into Smash or share my passion in it. One likes them and another plays only SSB64. He wasn't even aware there was Brawl until I told him last month. This is from a self-professed Nintendo/Smash fan.

I am trying to get into the Smash scene here in Japan but that's slow going :/
 

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I really have to wonder. Assuming Smash 4 makes no cuts, we get Mewtwo and Roy back, as well as Ridley, K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Little Mac, and a Mario newcomer (one of Toad/Paper Mario/Bowser Jr./Waluigi) are added in. Then there basically won't be any characters left with large passionate fanbases for Smash 5 aside from possibly other Mario characters.

I think most of the characters that became big during the pre-Smash 4 period (Palutena, Shulk, Chrom) will not be highly requested for Smash 5 if they fail to make it in for Smash 4.
 

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I really have to wonder. Assuming Smash 4 makes no cuts, we get Mewtwo and Roy back, as well as Ridley, K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Little Mac, and a Mario newcomer (one of Toad/Paper Mario/Bowser Jr./Waluigi) are added in. Then there basically won't be any characters left with large passionate fanbases for Smash 5 aside from possibly other Mario characters.

I think most of the characters that became big during the pre-Smash 4 period (Palutena, Shulk, Chrom) will not be highly requested for Smash 5 if they fail to make it in for Smash 4.
I don't know if I'd put Palutena on that list, but yeh, Chrom & Shulk's requests will most likely die out.
 

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Yeah. If another KI game is made, then there will most likely be more Palutena support.

Regardless of the game, I still think she'll be favorable.
She deserves it even without another KI title. She's basically the Zelda of KI. I honestly see NO reason why she wouldn't get in this time, she's one of the most perfect characters for the game.
 

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Slightly updated roster;



Tiki over Chrom and Roy, cause I can. Deal with it.
Gen 1-3 Pokemon Trainer cause it is a much better idea and again cause I can. Deal with it.
And not 1 retro rep. Not 2 retro reps. But 3 retro reps.
Falco taken to the scissors.
Toon Link taken to the Scissors.
Lucas taken to the Scissors.

Come at me Bros and Bras.
 

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Yeah. If another KI game is made, then there will most likely be more Palutena support.

Regardless of the game, I still think she'll be favorable.
I am not so sure. Sakurai has pretty much said he won't be making another Kid Icarus game, so Palutena would pretty much need to get in Smash 4 for her fanbase to survive and thrive.

Palutena though will probably retain more of her fanbase than Chrom and Shulk will.
 

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I am not so sure. Sakurai has pretty much said he won't be making another Kid Icarus game, so Palutena would pretty much need to get in Smash 4 for her fanbase to survive and thrive.

Palutena though will probably retain more of her fanbase than Chrom and Shulk will.
Nintendo has the right to give the franchise to any developer it wants. Just because Sakurai isn't making a game doesn't necessarily mean there wont be one.
 

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Nintendo has the right to give the franchise to any developer it wants. Just because Sakurai isn't making a game doesn't necessarily mean there wont be one.
I can't see any developer being interested in Kid Icarus, especially considering Uprising was not a big seller despite the massive budget and promotion it had (and having a main protagonist that was among the most popular newcomers introduced in Brawl).

I am more perplexed about how there is still interest in Krystal considering how few people played the post-64 Star Fox games, the mixed reception to them, and the fact the character has not made any new appearances since 2006.
 

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Back with the 3DS remake they stated that they would discontinue the series but there's been occasional talks of a new star fox game over the years by certain important nintendo guys. :p
Yet they all failed to actually get something in motion and every rumor so far has been debunked.

Even if starfox was a more active franchise, I don't think we need Krystal added to the roster.
 

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Slightly updated roster;



Tikir over Chrom and Roy, cause I can. Deal with it.
Gen 1-3 Pokemon Trainer cause it is a much better idea and again cause I can. Deal with it.
And not 1 retro rep. Not 2 retro reps. But 3 retro reps.
Falco taken to the scissors.
Toon Link taken to the Scissors.
Lucas taken to the Scissors.

Come at me Bros and Bras.

You earn more respect by your comments with me than your actual roster. :laugh:

I like:

Lip, Macher Rider, Dixie Kong, keeping Ike

I dislike:

No K.Rool, no Mario newcomer of sorts, cutting Falco and Lucas (care a little less for Toon Link), no 4th Zelda character, keeping Sheik, Tiki, the choice of Pokémon for the Trainer, PacMan, Mega Mewtwo as a standalone, no Lucario.

It's an overall quite small roster. So if you'd only increase it's size, people will like it more.
 

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Slightly updated roster;



Tiki over Chrom and Roy, cause I can. Deal with it.
Gen 1-3 Pokemon Trainer cause it is a much better idea and again cause I can. Deal with it.
And not 1 retro rep. Not 2 retro reps. But 3 retro reps.
Falco taken to the scissors.
Toon Link taken to the Scissors.
Lucas taken to the Scissors.

Come at me Bros and Bras.


Seriously, though, it's a pretty good roster. It's likely we'll get that size, and I love your inclusions. The only thing I don't like is Lucas getting cut. If it were my roster, I'd put in Lucas in favor of Mach Rider, but I love the roster regardless. And Bonus Points for adding Dixie instead of K. Rool.
Edit: And I'd also have a 4th Zelda slot. But that's just me.

9.5/10
 

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Slightly updated roster;



Tikir over Chrom and Roy, cause I can. Deal with it.
Gen 1-3 Pokemon Trainer cause it is a much better idea and again cause I can. Deal with it.
And not 1 retro rep. Not 2 retro reps. But 3 retro reps.
Falco taken to the scissors.
Toon Link taken to the Scissors.
Lucas taken to the Scissors.

Come at me Bros and Bras.
I like this roster.
 

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You earn more respect by your comments with me than your actual roster. :laugh:

I like:

Lip, Macher Rider, Dixie Kong, keeping Ike

I dislike:

No K.Rool, no Mario newcomer of sorts, cutting Falco and Lucas (care a little less for Toon Link), no 4th Zelda character, keeping Sheik, Tiki, the choice of Pokémon for the Trainer, PacMan, Mega Mewtwo as a standalone, no Lucario.

It's an overall quite small roster. So if you'd only increase it's size, people will like it more.
This ain't no popularity contest son. I don't care if people dislike my roster. I'm going with what I think is a realistic numbers of slots, emphasis on I, and I believe it is probably going to be a 42-43 character roster anyway. But someone dislikes my roster? I sai Deal with it. Can't deal with it? To bad, so sad. I ain't going for popularity you know. :L

Seriously, though, it's a pretty good roster. It's likely we'll get that size, and I love your inclusions. The only thing I don't like is Lucas getting cut. If it were my roster, I'd put in Lucas in favor of Mach Rider, but I love the roster regardless. And Bonus Points for adding Dixie instead of K. Rool.
Edit: And I'd also have a 4th Zelda slot. But that's just me.

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Someone. Actually. Likes. My. Roster. Someone pinch me I have to be dreaming. :crazy:
 

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I really have to wonder. Assuming Smash 4 makes no cuts, we get Mewtwo and Roy back, as well as Ridley, K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Little Mac, and a Mario newcomer (one of Toad/Paper Mario/Bowser Jr./Waluigi) are added in. Then there basically won't be any characters left with large passionate fanbases for Smash 5 aside from possibly other Mario characters.

I think most of the characters that became big during the pre-Smash 4 period (Palutena, Shulk, Chrom) will not be highly requested for Smash 5 if they fail to make it in for Smash 4.
I think SSB4 would have seemed boring if it only had the popular/expected characters and kept all the Brawl characters... that's why I am glad for quirky and bizarre character picks like Villager and Wii Fit Trainer... and given the fact Sakurai has to recreate each of the 39 Brawl characters from scratch as well as building newcomers from the ground up... on top of time constraints... the possibility of character cuts is very real. I think that's the beauty of having a non-conservative roster... one with some popular/expected newcomers, some quirky/bizarre newcomers, and some character cuts... it creates demand for SSB5.
 

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Someone. Actually. Likes. My. Roster. Someone pinch me I have to be dreaming. :crazy:
It's good! Apart from Tiki, and the fact we have Takamaru, Lip, and Mach Rider (which certainly is in the realm of possibility), it's pretty realistic. I just think we should keep Lucas and if not Toon Link, a 4th Zelda character.
 

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Tiki over Chrom and Roy, cause I can. Deal with it.
Gen 1-3 Pokemon Trainer cause it is a much better idea and again cause I can. Deal with it.
And not 1 retro rep. Not 2 retro reps. But 3 retro reps.
Falco taken to the scissors.
Toon Link taken to the Scissors.
Lucas taken to the Scissors.

Come at me Bros and Bras.

Ya know...considering this has almost no one I'm rooting for, I'll actually be okay if this turns out to be the roster. Even with little touches like Totodile and Grovyle(who just so happen to be my favourite starters of their respective gens) whilst keeping the ever popular Charizard is enough to make this more interesting than the majority of rosters I've seen.

Whilst I've stated I'm a big Roy fan, I actually kinda like that Tiki is so visually different from the three blue swordsmen in her column.

I barely noticed who you cut before others commented. Guess I wouldn't miss Falco, Lucas, Toon Link or even Lucario if they disappeared.

The only one I'm personally not keen on is Mach Rider, but to each their own.

Most importantly though I appreciate the Lip service you gave here.
 

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Back with the 3DS remake they stated that they would discontinue the series but there's been occasional talks of a new star fox game over the years by certain important nintendo guys. :p
Yet they all failed to actually get something in motion and every rumor so far has been debunked.

Even if starfox was a more active franchise, I don't think we need Krystal added to the roster.
I think Krystal's Staff would be a welcomed new addition to the item roster.
 

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I think Krystal's Staff would be a welcomed new addition to the item roster.
That's a good idea... Krystal is often suggested just because people believe her staff would make her NOT a Fox clone... but why bother with the middleman (middlefox?) and just add the staff as an item. :troll:
 

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I tell you what the staff ain't half a bad idea for an item. It'd be cool if it did several things. A simply swings it but side smash could fire of a fire ball or down smash cause a little earthquake similar to DK's side special. I agree Krystal is unnecessary but the staff as an item has potential.
 

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Why Krystal anyways? I see no reason with three possible pole-arm users outweighing her importance and coolness, being Palutena, Bandana Dee, and possibly Anna.
ohboycomeatmelolololololol
No, but, seriously, a staff/pole-arm user this game would be great, and pretty likely.
 

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I think Krystal's Staff would be a welcomed new addition to the item roster.
Haha. Imagine the butthurt from the fans.

I'd like to see Krystal in Smash though, but I don't think it's her time yet, since I doubt Star Fox will get four slots at this roster size. I hope we at least get Krozoa Palace as a stage...

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I am more perplexed about how there is still interest in Krystal considering how few people played the post-64 Star Fox games, the mixed reception to them, and the fact the character has not made any new appearances since 2006.
Large tracts of land.

That is all.
 

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Haha. Imagine the butthurt from the fans.

I'd like to see Krystal in Smash, but I don't think it's her time yet, since I doubt Star Fox will get four slots at this roster size. I hope we at least get Krozoa Palace as a stage...

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I highly doubt that. The only Star Fox games that apparently count are Star Fox (SNES), Star Fox 64, and Star Fox 64 3D. We might get stages from those games.
 
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