Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[FlareHabanero]

Especially since every announcement trailer's Nintendo characters are available from the start..

Like Snake and Sonic?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Mario doesn't need more characters than Zelda and Pokemon guys.

Brawl already had more Zelda AND Pokemon characters than Mario characters.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Mario doesn't need more characters than Zelda and Pokemon guys.

Brawl already had more Zelda AND Pokemon characters than Mario characters.

You have to stop counting characters within other characters. That gets to be an annoying excuse. You don't Count Nana as another character do you? And she is actually playable.

Poke'mon Trainer is listed on the roster as Pok'emon Trainer which is ONE character with 3 Characters within that character. Also Poke'mon Trainer commands the Poke'mon. Yes there are 6 PKMN characters and 5 Zelda characters in the GAME, but not the ROSTER.
Even if they do count. You still have 5 Poke'mon displayed, but 4 Mario displayed. That is still unfair.

This is getting as annoying as the people who count Yoshi & Wario as Mario reps so they can add more Zelda & Poke'mon reps.

Regardless of whether or not you count them, Sakurai won't have 5 Pok'emon boxes and 4 Mario boxes.

>Sheriff Starter
>Wii Fit Trainer Unlockable
Yeah, I doubt that much. Especially since every announcement trailer's Nintendo characters are available from the start.

I saw people posting fantasy rosters.
I must join this trend.

Like Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man? And what's wrong with Sheriff being a starter? Ice Climbers are starters. And Wii Fit Trainer is an unlock-able because she is this games R.O.B./Mr. G & W. except she is modern.

F.Y.I.: She wasn't in the starting Trailer she was revealed hours AFTER the Trailers and the launch of the Smash Official website. She was the first Update. She was never in the starting Trailer. So what you said means nothing.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I think anybody who counts Wario, Yoshi, and DK as Mario characters is a lazy and pathetic excuse to add more Poke'mon or Zelda characters without having to put in more Mario Characters.

How I am using it as an excuse? No where did I use it to justify the number of characters in a represented series. I simply think that Yoshi and Wario (not DK) fall under the Mario umbrella traditionally. I never said that "Mario does not need another character since it has Wario and Yoshi" nor did i say "I'll add another Pokerep because, well, there's Wario or Yoshi."

As for potential Mario reps, I only see Junior or Toad being viable but the question I asked myself: Do we need more Mario characters? Mario is already well represented. Adding another, IMO, would just be to bolster the roster.

I would also argue Pokemon is well represented but the inclusion of Mewtwo is almost a necessary due to to his iconic value to the series. Lucario, while not as popular, definitely has the popularity and lasting relevancy to keep his spot.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You have to stop counting characters within other characters. That gets to be an annoying excuse. You don't Count Nana as another character do you? And she is actually playable.

Poke'mon Trainer is listed on the roster as Pok'emon Trainer which is ONE character with 3 Characters within that character. Also Poke'mon Trainer commands the Poke'mon. Yes there are 6 PKMN characters and 5 Zelda characters in the GAME, but not the ROSTER.
Even if they do count. You still have 5 Poke'mon displayed, but 4 Mario displayed. That is still unfair.

This is getting as annoying as the people who count Yoshi & Wario as Mario reps so they can add more Zelda & Poke'mon reps.

Regardless of whether or not you count them, Sakurai won't have 5 Pok'emon boxes and 4 Mario boxes.

I count them because Sakurai counts them. Sakurai stated that he viewed Brawl as having 39 characters. That included ZSS, Sheik and all three Pokemon as individual characters.

I like how you know how Sakuai works.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I count them because Sakurai counts them. Sakurai stated that he viewed Brawl as having 39 characters. That included ZSS, Sheik and all three Pokemon as individual characters.

I like how you know how Sakuai works.

Yeah, 39 playable characters in the whole game as a total. (40 if you count Nana, which nobody does.) But the roster/select screen is still 35. Your Point, sir???

Also I never said I know how Sakurai thinks, and don't act like you've never claimed Sakurai thinks stuff with no source or quote. You have several times.

How I am using it as an excuse? No where did I use it to justify the number of characters in a represented series. I simply think that Yoshi and Wario (not DK) fall under the Mario umbrella traditionally. I never said that "Mario does not need another character since it has Wario and Yoshi" nor did i say "I'll add another Pokerep because, well, there's Wario or Yoshi."

As for potential Mario reps, I only see Junior or Toad being viable but the question I asked myself: Do we need more Mario characters? Mario is already well represented. Adding another, IMO, would just be to bolster the roster.

I would also argue Pokemon is well represented but the inclusion of Mewtwo is almost a necessary due to to his iconic value to the series. Lucario, while not as popular, definitely has the popularity and lasting relevancy to keep his spot.

Whether Sakurai will try to choose between Lucario or Neomew or just keep both is unknown. But, it seems unfair to have 5 Pok'emon on the select screen is unfair without 5 Mario. Poke'mon will NEVER be represented enough because there is over 600 Poke'mon. Zelda is represented enough.

The thing is I only see either 5 Mario & 5 Pok'emon, 5 Mario and 4 Poke'mon, or 4 Mario and 4 Pok'emon. Mario is the mascot so it only makes sense.

Mario IS represented well enough, but that rule will probably still apply.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I think anybody who counts Wario, Yoshi, and DK as Mario characters is a lazy and pathetic excuse to add more Poke'mon or Zelda characters without having to put in more Mario Characters.

Haha, true.
I'm wondering, though:

If there was a character from Pokemon Ranger, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, or Pokemon Conquest, do you think they should have their own series symbols and be seen as spin-off characters? I think so.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Yeah, 39 Characters total in the whole game. (40 if you count Nana, which nobody does.) But the roster is still 35. Your Point, sir???

Also I never said I know how Sakurai thinks, and don't act like you've never claimed Sakurai thinks stuff with no source or quote. You have several times.

I concede on the roster spot thing.

Although the 39 character thing is common knowledge. Ask around.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I concede on the roster spot thing.

Although the 39 character thing is common knowledge. Ask around.

Yeah, I found out about that recently.

 

[Bajef8]

Yeah, 39 playable characters in the whole game as a total. (40 if you count Nana, which nobody does.) But the roster/select screen is still 35. Your Point, sir???

Also I never said I know how Sakurai thinks, and don't act like you've never claimed Sakurai thinks stuff with no source or quote. You have several times.



Whether Sakurai will try to choose between Lucario or Neomew or just keep both is unknown. But, it seems unfair to have 5 Pok'emon on the select screen is unfair without 5 Mario. Poke'mon will NEVER be represented enough because there is over 600 Poke'mon. Zelda is represented enough.

The thing is I only see either 5 Mario & 5 Pok'emon, 5 Mario and 4 Poke'mon, or 4 Mario and 4 Pok'emon. Mario is the mascot so it only makes sense.

Nana doesn't count at all...seriously, explain to me how she is counted as a character on the roster. She's literally a different colored Popo that mimics your inputs. That's not a unique character with its own moveset like ZSS, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, and Sheik.

FYI the announcer literally says Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard, and Sheik's names on the selection screen.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Yeah Nana isn't a good reason to use. She uses the exact same moveset as Popo and has no different attributes whatsoever, so she isn't really her own character necessarily.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Nana is really the only semi-character. I consider Shiek/Zelda, Charizard, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Zero Suit Samus but to be there own individual characters who occupy a spot on the roster. The roster size on the screen is 35 but, as a whole, the roster is 39 characters. Anything else is short changing those aforementioned characters.

So I guess...technically...my roster is not 48 but 52 characters...... (` _ `);

 

[AEMehr]

Like Snake and Sonic?

Like Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man?

The keyword was Nintendo.

And what's wrong with Sheriff being a starter? Ice Climbers are starters. And Wii Fit Trainer is an unlock-able because she is this games R.O.B./Mr. G & W. except she is modern.
F.Y.I.: She wasn't in the starting Trailer she was revealed hours AFTER the Trailers and the launch of the Smash Official website. She was the first Update. She was never in the starting Trailer. So what you said means nothing.

On Sheriff, he's the historical character that is a much bigger surprise to the general public. It makes more sense to be unlockable, unlike the general well known characters that are available for play from the get go. It would just make more sense for him to be hidden, to me at least.

Two things with your Wii Fit Trainer prediction:
1 - On being the surprise character: That doesn't mean anything, at all really.
2 - On being on a update: Hidden Characters were never officially revealed (Aside from the Third-Parties) until near-release of the game.

So actually, your argument is the invalid one.
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Here is my realistic prediction roster:View attachment 1099

For the most part, I like it. 48 / 49 characters is pretty good.
The only qualms I have with it are:
Phantom Zelda instead of Tetra
Zoroark replacing Lucario
Saki (I mean the guy is cool and all, but I never really saw why people really do expect him)
and no David Hayter.

Also just a personal nitpick, but I'd suggest putting Takamaru in R.O.B.'s slot, move R.O.B. into Olimar's spot, and then put Olimar where Takamaru was. I've always thought that R.O.B. would fit best there because of how he is referenced in both Star Fox and F-Zero and Olimar was under Dedede in Brawl's roster.

 

[FalKoopa]

It's still a work a work in progress but this is a prediction roster I am very comfortable with; both in terms of characters and as well as predictions.

[collapse=Added:]
King K. Rool
Takamaru
Ridley
Palutena
Little Mac
Mewtwo/Newtwo
Chrom
Shulk
Isaac
Mii
Pac Man[/collapse]

[collapse=Replaced:]
Toon link with Retro Link[/collapse]

[collapse=Removed:]
Snake[/collapse]

Total Chars: 48 characters, 14 newcomers, 8 representing a new franchise

[collapse=reasoning]I hate the design of this roster so I will most likely edit or alter it in the new future. Too.....unbalanced. Anyways, I know it is a bit heavy on new franchises plus 48 characters. However, I do feel that 45-50 characters are fairly realistic especially if you consider if the game will be more focused on characters and gameplay rather than content and goodies. Plus, I think many people tend to underestimate the power of the 3DS.

I don't think we will get any Mario characters, but if we do, I believe it will be a toss up between Junior and Toad. I categorize both Yoshi and Wario as Mario characters. DK has moved out of that umbrella in Brawl and became its own represented franchise IMO.

Personally, I do prefer King K. Rool over Dixie and still believe he wins over likeliness but Dixie is almost tied with him in terms of support and likeliness. It could go either way.

No new Yoshi or Wario reps.

For Loz, I took out Toon Link and added Retro Link since the new 3DS game will be coming out (if I am correct). Since Noah will go into conniptions why I added SS Zelda, it is merely an aesthetic choice and personal bias. i would prefer SS Zelda.

For Metroid, added Ridley. He needs to be in. ZZS stays.

Added Takamaru. I believe him to be the most likely Retro character.

No new F-Zero, Earthbound, or Pikmin rep.

Added Palutena for Kid Icarus. I will be devastated not to see her in. I would classify her as my #1 most wanted character.

Kept R.O.B. and Ice Climbers

No new AC reps outside of the Villager. same for WFT.

No New Star Fox rep. Kept Mr. Game and Watch.

Added Little Mac. I think he is the most likely rebooted retro character.

I kept both PKMN Trainer and Lucario and added Mewtwo/Newtwo. While Lucario is a bit iffy, I think he will stay.

Kept Ike. He is the second most popular Lord in Japan and still immensely popular in the West plus a fan favorite. Added Chrom due to the most recent release.

Added the two blonde hunks: Shulk and Issac. Shulk because he is both popular, is the star of a critically acclaimed RPG, and, IMO, helps represents the new franchises.

I added Isaac due to his AT status in SSBB, is very popular, and is the mascot of his franchise. Not to mention he has a fair amount of support.

I added Mii. I hate the idea but I think its inevitable. Nintendo whites these little guys out and makes them playable in every Nintendo related game.

I added Pac Man because, IMO, I do think we will be getting a Namco rep. We've gone over this many times if he is likely or not but, I think that of all of the Namco reps, he has the most likely chances of being included. I do not want him though and would prefer another Namco rep such as Lloyd, Nightmare, Jin, KOS-MOS, or even Yoshimitsu.

I removed Snake but it was painful. While I love Snake, I don't want him back. Not do I want Sonic back but he seems more likely to return. I feel both should be restricted as guest characters and should be Brawl only. As well, it would allow other possible 3rd party candidates. [/collapse]

Again, this is subject to chance. Ideas? Suggestions? Insults?

Would really prefer Toon Link to be kept, and Roy over Chrom, but that's all.

 

[Ember Reaper]

What? Literally almost all of Zelda's moves are magic. Unless you're counting Sheik as part of that. Sheik would make Zelda stick out even more though anyway.

This DragonSniper. And the whole point of that was to say she would be different... So somehow my point wasn't made...

ThirdKoopa: Something kinda like this
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/Bra...ario&TypeAlt=Character&characterListing=Mario

A general idea. But it's a possibility nonetheless

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

This DragonSniper. And the whole point of that was to say she would be different... So somehow my point wasn't made...

ThirdKoopa: Something kinda like this
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/Bra...ario&TypeAlt=Character&characterListing=Mario

A general idea. But it's a possibility nonetheless

Yes Zelda is mainly a magic user, but her and Micaiah can be different overall (like you said). Especially since they basically use their magic differently. Same thing applies to all Fire Emblem mages too.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Would LttP Link represent the best of Zelda?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Would LttP Link represent the best of Zelda?

He may make a good replacement for Toon Link

 

[Arcadenik]

Would LttP Link represent the best of Zelda?

If Classic Link replaces Toon Link as the new child Link for SSB4, then I hope he gets the following:

Standard Special - Fire & Ice Rods (similar concept to the often suggested Fire & Ice Arrows idea for Toon Link)
Side Special - Magic Boomerang (adult Link can have the Beetle)
Up Special - Sword Spin
Down Special - Bomb
Final Smash - Magic Medallions (Quake Medallion if Final Smash is activated while Classic Link is standing on the ground - Ether Medallion if Final Smash is activated while Classic Link is in the air - Bombos Medallion if it is a Pity Final Smash)

Neutral A - Sword Beam (NES version)
Side A - Sword Beam (NES version)
Running A - Pegasus Boots (runs with the sword out like in the SNES game)
Side Smash - Sword Beam (SNES version)
Down Smash - Magic Hammer (similar concept to the often suggested Skull Hammer idea for Toon Link)

Grabs - Hookshot
Throws - Silver Arrows (similar to how Fox uses his blaster to shoot opponents after throwing them)

Entrance - a duck flies over the stage, dropping off Classic Link

Taunt #1 - Bug-Catching Net (spins around and catches a bee - it would be fun to take pictures of him with Villager)
Taunt #2 - Book of Mudora (takes out the book and reads it briefly and puts it away)
Taunt #3 - Flute (plays a flute and a duck flies overhead)

Victory #1 - Magic Mirror (Classic Link looks into the mirror and turns into a rabbit)
Victory #2 - Magic Powder (Classic Link sprinkles some powder at the Buzz Blob and it transforms into a Cukeman)
Victory #3 - Flute (Classic Link sits on a tree stump, surrounded by two blue birds, two bunnies, and one red bird, playing a flute)

Oh, yeah, I think Classic Link would be awesome in Smash.

 

[FalKoopa]

Am still rooting for Toon Link to be kept.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yeah me too Fal, most theres a bunch of games that involve Toon Link.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Hey, if Toon Link returns the better it is for Vaati, that and I've started getting really good with Toon Link in Brawl too, so I wouldn't mind him coming back.

 

[allshort17]

Predicted Roster:

Added on to my Roster are Starfy and Palutena. Starfy would be the character who appeals more to the Japanese audience and I believe he could have a unique enough playstyle to work. I'm seeing Kid Icarus get a lot of popularity, so Palutena could now earn a spot

 

[BluePikmin11]

Predicted Roster:
View attachment 1119

Added on to my Roster are Starfy and Palutena. Starfy would be the character who appeals more to the Japanese audience and I believe he could have a unique enough playstyle to work. I'm seeing Kid Icarus get a lot of popularity, so Palutena could now earn a spot

Only problems I have is that theres no Pokemon Trainer, Bowser Jr. is a problem too. No Toon Link at all, ZSS is a seperate character. Try to add at least one new retro there too. Overall a good roster.

 

[Zage]

Whats the public opinion on Brawl ATs becoming playable in Smash 4? Does it affect their chances more, or do they not receiving any special priority over anyone else?

 

[Curious Villager]

Whats the public opinion on Brawl ATs becoming playable in Smash 4? Does it affect their chances more, or do they not receiving any special priority over anyone else?

Well people are expecting Little Mac to become playable which I can totally understand where they are coming from. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a few Assist Trophy characters become playable this time around.

 

[allshort17]

Sorry for the double post, but you can only unload on file per message.

Wishful think roster:

Red indicated that the character will be unlockable.

Reasoning

Spoiler

* Ghirahim would be a new villain and would represent the new era of Zelda much like Toon Link and Young Link did in the past, but without being a clone.

*How Nintendo is advertising it, they seem to want Pikmin to be the next great series in the Nintendo history. It's not too unreasonable to believe they would add another character. However, the idea of a Pikmin representative brings so many new possibilities of playstyle. He doesn't have to play like Olimar. Olimar could have the old 5 Pikmin and Charlie with the new 5, giving them unique move. Some things I imagined are Charlie holding on to a group of flying pikmin as an Up-B, him dropping a rock Pikmin as a spike for his down special or Dair, him calling Pikmin to throw a fruit at the opponent, or his Pikmin being able to gather items. He's also heavier, which could lead him to be much more of a brawler than Olimar. He's on of my personal wishes for a character more than anyone else.

*I don't believe Xenoblade has enough attention to truly get a spot compared to the people he's fighting against, but if Shulk did, he would fit nicely

*C. Falcon needs a friend and Samurai Gorath has been with him since the beginning. His sword would prevent him from being a clone compared to C. Falcon and his wild swordplay would differentiate him from the other sword users.

*Frankly, I don't even know who Takamaru is. But, I hear he's a retro Nintendo rep and is kinda popular on predicted lists so why not. He looks cool and has a sword.

*I want Ray to be in, but I don't believe Custom Robo has enough popularity. Although, he would be a fun fighter seeing as though he's small and fast with many projectiles and he can fly.

*I think the Wars series has enough history to have a spot, but being a character is just weird. Time and capability limitations are what I see bringing Andy down. If he did make it, it would be nice to see another minion fighter. Also, I don't play Advance Wars (I want to), so I just chose Andy because he look to be the most popular. If there is a more significant character than him in the series, just replace him with that person.

*I'm actually a little shocked no one's considered Master Hand at all. He had a (hacked) playable version in Melee, showing that Nintendo gave it some thought and to the Smash series, he truly is iconic. He was very close to going on my true predicted character list, but he still would play weirdly and it seems fit to honor him as the boss character of the series.

*Snake fits in Smash very well. He's one of the few people with a true trap style of gameplay. He just didn't fit well in Brawl because of poor coding and choices on Nintendo's part, but as an idea he is great.

*If Platinum did have a rep, I would much rather it be Bayonetta than Wonder Red. Wonder has to operate in a group and I don't want to see another potential Pikmin character. Also, Bayonetta would just play way flashier and combo heavy. Her style would be well received by players on both the causal and competitive ends if they implimented it right, much like Dante in Playstation Allstars.

*I don't want Pac-Man. I see him as a poor character for a fighter consider in Street Fighter x Tekken, he didn't even truly fight. There's not much you can do with him. Jin, on the other hand, comes from a fighting game, so his transition would be a lot more fluent. He's iconic to many people much like Pac-Man is (although not as iconic). Also, because Tekken Tag 2 was on Wii U, you could as he has a reason to be in now. However, I do agree Pac-Man has way more of a history, so he is more likely to really get in.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Whats the public opinion on Brawl ATs becoming playable in Smash 4? Does it affect their chances more, or do they not receiving any special priority over anyone else?

Criteria for assist trophy =/= criteria for a character.
Not everyone can work well as an assist trophy. Sakurai probably wants to keep their functions from overlapping as much as possible. So he looks for people who would fit as an assist, not necessarily the runner ups on his roster.

 

[allshort17]

*dumb repost of message above

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I'm gonna throw out some stuff right now real fast

1. Lucina and Miciah hold almost next to no shot in hell. Yeah, you can call bull**** with Masked Man, but that's a series that only has three games while Fire Emblem has moer than a dozen.

2. Mario technically has more characters. Say all you want about Diddy Kong and especially Donkey Kong, Wario, and Yoshi, and while they do represent their own franchise, people still easily see them within the Marioverse. They're not completely off the radar, so stop magically saying Mario needs a new rep. (I guess for Diddy Kong not as much)

3. Just because they were Assist Trophies doesn't mean too much either way, but it does indicate some things. Before Brawl, people actually thought (See: Uninformed) that Isaac's second-party status was harmful. It's proven that it's not.

4. Your mother. Oh, wait, that has nothing to do with anything. Doesn't A Link between Worlds Link have the same voice as Toon Link? Either way it doesn't matter much because they won't change moveset.

 

[jaytalks]

I understand that Micaiah has very little chance but I don't agree with Lucina having no chance. Lucina at times appears to be the face of Fire Emblem: Awakening, not to mention she can actually be considered to be more unique than Chrom (much different stance, more stabbing style, the fact that she's a woman).

Although Mario related characters exist in the same universe, they are different franchises because Nintendo treats them as such. I also believe that Mario should have no more reps, but that's because I don't believe any series should have more than four reps.

On my roster: I tried to balance out more villains, as well as more uniqueness. Classic Link will be called Young Link. Unova Trainer will be called Pokemon Trainer.

Not many more franchises (relatively speaking) besides the one's already announced in E3. Xenoblade, Nazo no Murasame-jō, and Punch-Out!!

 

[3Bismyname]

@jaytalks
i dont see Lucina making it. thats just my opinion i dont really wanna get into it right now. Starfox shouldnt get four reps and Unova trainer is a really poor replacement for the Kanto trainer. and we've had this conversation before that Palutena should have precedence over Medusa. oh and it needs more Ridley

 

[MagnesD3]

Whats the public opinion on Brawl ATs becoming playable in Smash 4? Does it affect their chances more, or do they not receiving any special priority over anyone else?

I actually think their inclusion increases their chances to become a character by a lot, those characters will all be on sakurai's mind.

 

[Deleted member]

Whats the public opinion on Brawl ATs becoming playable in Smash 4? Does it affect their chances more, or do they not receiving any special priority over anyone else?

It doesn't really mean anything to be honest.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Lucina at times appears to be the face of Fire Emblem: Awakening,

not to mention she can actually be considered to be more unique than Chrom (much different stance, more stabbing style, the fact that she's a woman).

Yeah, because having a vagina makes such a big difference in gameplay.

 

[MagnesD3]

Also I refitted my "too large by 5-10 character roster", but all realistic characters.

 

[FalKoopa]

The roster is a bit too big to be possible imo, I can take that.

The lack of a 2nd Link bugs me, though.

 

[jaytalks]

Whats the public opinion on Brawl ATs becoming playable in Smash 4? Does it affect their chances more, or do they not receiving any special priority over anyone else?

The AT's are so varied in terms of their role within their own series and Nintendo history that it's hard to say that being an AT will have any impact. It's very doubtful that it will.

Yeah, because having a vagina makes such a big difference in gameplay.

If you look at promotional aspects of the game geared toward individuals who have played the game (soundtrack, artbook, etc), Lucina is on the cover. Chrom pictures have Lucina as "Marth" in them.

It's not that being a female make her unique in gameplay. It gives her unique look in relation to other members in the FE series and other members of Smash for that matter. Just like Smash needs more villains in each series, the series could also use more female protagonists.

@jaytalks
Starfox shouldnt get four reps and Unova trainer is a really poor replacement for the Kanto trainer. and we've had this conversation before that Palutena should have precedence over Medusa. oh and it needs more Ridley

I prefer Medusa to Palutena for the sake of more villains. I believe this is the best way to include Generation V of pokemon, which has been the best generation of starters since the original. Generation V did produce B&W and B&W 2.

Starfox should not have more than two reps. But they already got three in the last game and it actually makes sense that they are clones (the special moves are meant to mimic the functions of an Arwing). It's an easy add to increase the roster.

I don't Sakurai has changed his mind on Ridley and the size thing. It's unfortunate, as I would like him on in the game as well. I try to make these predictions rather than wishlisting, and the characters that can be considered reaches I try to have a good explanation for.

 

[MagnesD3]

The roster is a bit too big to be possible imo, I can take that.

The lack of a 2nd Link bugs me, though.

I just dont think we will be seeing another link this time, but who knows.

 

[Curious Villager]

Sakurai did say that a child Link was important to him. So I think we are likely of seeing one, wether it's Toon Link, Young Link or Classic Link is up for debate.

And despite me supporting Anna as a new Fire Emblem newcomer, that doesn't mean that I support her because she's a woman since that's a very weak reasoning to support any female character in my opinion. I also support Lyn and Chrom too so there's that as well.