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(ranting here because I don't want to ruin the supporter thread)
There are at least two that you'll see. One will take on the form of a male Backpacker, and give you TM95 for talking to it. The other one is at Victory Road, guarding one of the cave passages.
Exactly what my roster is (aside from Mii's). It just makes the most sense. I'm also expecting something unexpectedWas wondering when someone would be smart enough to say this. It's just like the old thread all over again. So anyway moving on...
Kinda bored at the moment, so I guess I'll post my current roster here to get some opinions on:
I'll explain choices as questions come up, rather than filling up an entire page as to why I chose Toon Link over Young Link and whatnot.
He was made by Camelot, but he's owned by Nintendo.
Because he's a Mario character that Nintendo has permission to use outside of Camelot games? Camelot explicitly owns Waluigi. Nintendo, who owns Camelot, either has permission or "forcefully" made sure they did. So, no, I don't buy it since there's no reason they would own him in this scenario.
Creators own a character unless they're bought by someone else. That's a literal fact.
Exactly what my roster is (aside from Mii's). It just makes the most sense. I'm also expecting something unexpected
This still goes back to the "hurr durr Rare owns the kremlings" argument. (Waluigi part)Creators own a character unless they're bought by someone else. That's a literal fact.
Where did they buy a character they didn't make? That's the only way they can own him.
That's not how ownership works and never will be how it works. Nintendo can only own him through proxy at best. They own him about as well as they own Geno.
So, no, this is specifically on you here. My claim is fully sound because it actually goes with real facts. If you think the creators don't own characters they made by default, you're using actual troll logic.
If Nintendo bought Waluigi, which is the only way they could legally own him, all you have to do is point them out. And yes, I looked it up, in no way do they mention anything about his ownership outside of him being created by a non-Nintendo employee.
So show where he was bought and you'll prove your point. He's in the same boat as Geno, to note.(only difference is 2nd and 3rd party, that's it)
I wouldn't say it's the "best," but after lurking around a few places, and doing some reading I can certainly say it's one of the more accurate. Which to me, is kinda disappointing. Every Smash Bros. game has always had unique and interesting characters in all origin, appearance and playstyle. Including the first one. But none of the newcomers in your Roster are exciting in any way really. The only consolation I have is the knowledge that Snake is still in, but even then, there are rumors he might not make it back.Don't tell Spydr, but currently this is what the Discussion Group roster is turning out to be.My roster's the best. :D
Yeah, I'm expecting something unexpected to happen with the real roster. But you can't expect what you don't know to expect.
Yes actually, why would ANYONE ever want Doc Mario to return? Also Adam? Eww... Thanks but not thanks. And finally, how are Bubbles and Balloon Fighter even supposed to play? Why not just make them assists?
yes, this is an almost impossible dream roster I just made and uploaded. it includes all the characters I currently support, some fan favorites and quite a good dose of ol' retro characters!
basically mix my supported chars with some other highly requested and Sakurai's wish of adding retro characters, and what you get is this.
all characters from previous games except Pichu and Young Link return!
why a roster so large? well... because I'm a bit of a megalomaniac person.
for those who like statistics... in this 67 character roster:
10 of the characters are female
35 of the characters are unlockable (meaning a starting roster of 32 characters)
the most represented series are: Mario (6), Zelda (5), Pokémon (7) and Fire Emblem (6)
characters in blue are starters, those in red are unlockables! what do you think? and... how would you react if this was the final roster in SSB4?
if anyone has any questions about this (rather large) roster... feel free to ask!
Well, in his defense, he's on the money about the ownership of IPs. However, we've seen Waluigi used in many games at Ninty's leisure, including in the previous Smash Bros. so his argument is completely invalid.
Because they liked the way he played in Melee and actually noticed there were differences? Though for the record, I'd prefer if he came back via an EX-mode type thing.
EX-mode...?
Hmm, but that would still be a new character, one that would require balancing and the like. Why not just make the Doc an Alt. costume and tune Mario to play like a hybrid of the two? I mean, back in Melee, Doc was the superior character, and Brawl's Mario was very Meh.
It IS invalid because you're focusing on the details of a redundant subject rather than what matters, the big picture.
Don't worry I was only saying that as a joke. The word "Best" is entirely subjective. It's just fun to tease when all the vets of the Smash 4 forum come to the same conclusion as I did after months of debate.
But, doesn't that list strike you as somewhat boring? Am I alone on this feeling? Because, as things stand now, I'm actually less hyped for Smash 4, than I was a week or so before I came back to these forums. There's nothing new on that list that's really fun or interesting, at least to me.Don't worry I was only saying that as a joke. The word "Best" is entirely subjective. It's just fun to tease when all the vets of the Smash 4 forum come to the same conclusion as I did after months of debate.
I heard that!Don't tell Spydr, but currently this is what the Discussion Group roster is turning out to be.My roster's the best. :D
Yeah, I'm expecting something unexpected to happen with the real roster. But you can't expect what you don't know to expect.
I don't think it's meant to be totally interesting. It probably seems boring because it has some pretty commonly expected and predicted characters, but that's because it's a prediction and that's part of the fun of the years/months before a new Smash game. Predicting what the roster will be like and seeing how close you are to the finished product.
To be fair, if everyone yells out a lot of Nintendo characters, some people are bound to be correct. It's not like there are an infinite amount of possibilities. Hats off to anyone who guessed R.O.B. though!
I suppose you're right. Some people started calling R.O.B. after seeing some trailers.
NOOOOO! Now you'll concentrate all your efforts into changing the roster we currently have.
(man this is the most emotioncons I've ever used at once)Tell that the vets of this forum. Some have been at Smash 4 speculation since Brawl came out. lol
You must have some crazy mind control powers that you've cast over all group members. I'll have to fight back somehow!NOOOOO! Now you'll concentrate all your efforts into changing the roster we currently have.
Everytime someone brings up that thread, I get super nostalgic. I was relatively new to speculation when I became a regular in there... and I sometimes cringe when reading through my old speculation... (I was a big-time patternist...
) but that was the beginning of my interest in the subject. Gooood times.
I've always thought that too. Oh, and Palutena, maybe?
