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[Since64]

This is a wobbuffet moveset I made, tell me what you think

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Stats:

Size- 5
Weight- 3
Ground Speed- 4
Jump- 7
Aerial Speed- 2
Fall Speed- 8
Traction- 5

Due to him being a "Punching Bag", Wobbuffet takes 50% less knockback

A: Slap 2% "F"
AA: Slap, Slap 2%, 2% "F"
AAA: Slap, Slap, Tail Slap 2%, 2%, 6% "D"
Running A: Runs and slaps 11% "D"

Tilt:

U-Tilt: Small Headbuut 8% "C"
D-Tilt: Low Slap 9% "D"
F-Tilt: Head Clap 10% "B"

Air:

N-Air: Tail Spin 15% "B"
U-Air: Overhead Clap 17% "B"
D-Air: Tail Drill 3% x 7 "D"
F-Air: Karate Chop 15% "B"
B-Air: Tail Whip 18% "A"

Grabs:

Pummel: Slap
U-Grab: Wobbuffet Headbutts his opponent up. 13% "C"
D-Grab: Wobbuffet Slaps his opponent with his tail, sending down, otg. 14% "C"
F-Grab: Wobbuffet Slaps his opponent. 12% "C"
B-Grab: Wobbuffet does a round house tail. 12% "C"

Smashes:

U-Smash: Head Smash 4% x 3, 12% "B"
D-Smash: Tail Sweep 18% "B"
F-Smash: Back Hand 22% "A"

Taunts:

1: Wobbuffet Salutes and says "Wobbuffet
2: Wobbuffet Puffs out his chest
3: Wobbuffet Yawns

Victory Poses:

1: Same as Taunt 1
2: Wobbuffet does the Egyptian dance
3: Wobbuffet eats a feast then says "Wobba"

Specials:

N-Special Counter: Puffs out his chest for 3 seconds. When Wobbuffet is hit, he slaps his opponent, dealing 1.5* of the damage he would have received and does the same amount of the moves knock back.

F-Special Encore: Shoots a ball of light that does 0%. When it hits an opponent, it traps them in a loop of the last special move they did for 3 seconds. (if no special move was used, it uses the N-Special). When he casts it with in 30 seconds of the last casting time, the encore fails and wobbuffet looks surprised

U-Special Tailicopter: Spins his tail really fast, causing him to rise to (around a ness double jump) in height. Becomes helpless afterwords.

D-Special Magic coat: Reflects a projectile at 2x the speed, dealing 150% of the projectiles damage and the same amount of the projectiles knock back

Final Smash Destiny Bound: Wobbuffet resets his damage counter to 300% and is given an aura. When wobbuffet is KO'ed while he has this aura, he KO'er is dragged off the screen and is KO'ed by wobbuffet. (When wobbuffet dies due to SD, the aura goes away when he respawns)

Letters in quotes next to the moves are the knock back level.

"A": Great
"B": Good
"C": Ok
"D": Bad
"F": None

Play style: Wobbuffet is a patience players best choice. He is a defensive tank that requires the best timing to rack up the damage on his opponent.

Tips when playing as him:

-Know what kind of character you are playing against, (knowing when to use his counter or his magic coat).

-Know when to use encore, (this will be the difference between winning and losing, a encore while a character is coming back to the stage will hurt their chances of surviving).

Tips when playing against him:

-Throws are your best friend, (he doesn't have a counter for your throws, use them a lot)

any questions just ask.

Wow, you took your time to stack everything against him, Didn't you? His final smash requires HIM to get knocked off the stage to be of any effect? No, his final smash should be counter. He takes the damage he has, triples it, than throws it as an energy ball at the opponent.

 

[Starphoenix]

Not that attack has been a problem either with him having the Third highest Special Attack of any pokemon.

Physical attack. But speed makes sense in light of the movie.

 

[Since64]

Wow, you took your time to stack everything against him, Didn't you? His final smash requires HIM to get knocked off the stage to be of any effect? No, his final smash should be counter. He takes the damage he has, triples it, than throws it as an energy ball at the opponent.

I'm sorry, that came off meaner than i meant it.

 

[lobotheduck21]

That's not going to help wobbuffet when he's doesn't have any damage

Edit: you actually didn't put it that meanly

 

[Since64]

That's not going to help wobbuffet when he's doesn't have any damage

If you haven't taken any damage by the time a Smash Ball finally decides to show itself, you're way better at this game than I am.

 

[lobotheduck21]

Not really, since there is healing items, not to mention you could respawn when the sb shows up

Plus I didn't use items

 

[josh bones]

If you haven't taken any damage by the time a Smash Ball finally decides to show itself, you're way better at this game than I am.

Pity smashes, healing item/moves, training mode. It's very likely to be at 0percent by then

 

[Sharkarat]

Physical attack. But speed makes sense in light of the movie.

I agree Physical Attack would be the most useful since Mewtwo already has has one of the highest special attack and speed. and I think defense/special defense stats wouldn't realy fit the new form.

 

[Since64]

Not really, since there is healing items, not to mention you could respawn when the sb shows up

Plus I didn't use items

Oh god no! You aren't one of those "Final Destination, No items is the only fair way to play" people are you?

 

[ChronoBound]

Newtwo is Mewtwo?


Mewtwo confirmed for Smash 4 for good. Peeee~rioud.

Also I shall call that now Mewclair. (-l3l-);

This. I think if this is a speed form, that this will be Mewtwo's Final Smash and work like Super Sonic.

 

[Curious Villager]

Guy's, I think since64 meant not getting hit at all. So not having having your damage percentage at 0% through healing items or getting Ko'd before the Smash ball appears.

It's still doable though.

 

[FlareHabanero]

This. I think if this is a speed form, that this will be Mewtwo's Final Smash and work like Super Sonic.

Original Final Smash donut steel.

 

[Deleted member]

Sounds like a Speed Form. Which I guess makes sense given "Extremespeed Genesect" but the funny thing is Mewtwo is already normally faster than Genesect and is already within the Top 10 fastest Pokemon in the game.

If a new form though, I'm still betting on it serving as a Final Smash or, as Kuma may put it, a stance, rather than as the default Mewtwo or as an alternate costume.

Also I agree with the other things said in your post about new characters/cuts.

If it's a Speed form then we better get this one for Smash, Mewtwo's biggest problem was being slow.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Oh god no! You aren't one of those "Final Destination, No items is the only fair way to play" people are you?

Welcome to Smashboards
loljk

 

[Since64]

Guy's, I think since64 meant not getting hit at all. So not having having your damage percentage at 0% through healing items or getting Ko'd before the Smash ball appears.

It's still doable though.

I also would have any lost stock count as 100% damage.

Hey, counter is hideously broken in Pokemon, why not here?

 

[ChronoBound]

I am still lolling that its called "eclair" form (yes, I know its a french word for lightning), but thinking about a pastry version of Mewtwo is hilarious.

 

[Since64]

Welcome to Smashboards
loljk

I'm the only non-tourney player here, aren't I?

 

[Fastblade5035]

I'm the only non-tourney player here, aren't I?

There's a few people here and there. I'm a tourney player, but I still enjoy items and taunt parties.

 

[Frostwraith]

Éclair Form Mewtwo? Well...

The first thing that comes to mind is indeed the dessert.

I know it also means lightning... but did you know that it can also mean... flamboyancy?

 

[ChronoBound]

I'm the only non-tourney player here, aren't I?

I never went to a Smash Bros. tournament either.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm the only non-tourney player here, aren't I?

Tires don exits

 

[Deleted member]

I never went to a Smash Bros. tournament either.

Me neither and frankly, I have no interest.

 

[Since64]

There's a few people here and there. I'm a tourney player, but I still enjoy items and taunt parties.

I just wish tourney rules didn't exclude items. *puts on old man beard* Back in MY day, on Smash 64, there was no item switch! So if your opponent got a hammer you were screwed! And we were HAPPY!

 

[Curious Villager]

I'm the only non-tourney player here, aren't I?

Not really. I never went to a tourney before (But that's more because I don't know of any tournies taking place where I live)

I mainly play smash for fun. Although I have been interested in trying to play Melee more competitively lately though. (I don't think I will ever learn how to properly wavedash and L-cancel though...)

 

[Fastblade5035]

I just wish tourney rules didn't exclude items. *puts on old man beard* Back in MY day, on Smash 64, there was no item switch! So if your opponent got a hammer you were screwed! And we were HAPPY!

But there WAS an item switch that could be unlocked...

 

[Opossum]

Okay, so I've been gone since the day of fools due to an internet service error, and have been wifi hopping, and it seems I missed a lot. Suddenly Mewtwo can turn into a pastry.

Did I miss anything else, by any chance? Other than cyclic FE/Pokemon debates, of course.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Back in MY day, on Smash 64, there was no item switch! So if your opponent got a hammer you were screwed! And we were HAPPY!

There was an item switch.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I just wish tourney rules didn't exclude items. *puts on old man beard* Back in MY day, on Smash 64, there was no item switch! So if your opponent got a hammer you were screwed! And we were HAPPY!

If you don't go to tournaments, why do you care about their rules?

 

[Ridley_Prime]

There is no excuse for Mewtwo be slow in the next game if true. Plus, Mewtwo with a Super Sonic Final Smash would be pretty much guaranteed. Although it would be awesome if Mewtwo had an attack form and not a speed form, since speed has never really been an issue for Mewtwo...

True. All this attack form and speed form stuff sounds too much like Deoxys now though... Maybe he can be like Deoxys in that sense but better.

And that Bruce Faulconer DBZ talk earlier was refreshing. Speaking of which, anyone know of or looking forward to the DBZ Battle of the Gods movie? Apparently it's all the rage in Japan right now, so surprised that was never brought up before, especially since the main villain Bills is very Mewtwo-esque as a cat.

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm the only non-tourney player here, aren't I?

Don't worry. There are plenty of casuals here as well. I have never gone to a tourney. (There are no tourneys in this part of the world. xD)

Did I miss anything else, by any chance? Other than cyclic FE/Pokemon debates, of course.

Some debates about cuts, and some fights.

 

[lobotheduck21]

no, I played on other stages, I just liked playing without items (I do think I played with the smash ball).

and no I haven't gone to a tourney

any other complaints besides the final smash

 

[Since64]

If you don't go to tournaments, why do you care about their rules?

Because that's the face that all smash fans put on themselves. To the point where one of my friends keeps wanting to play without items or wacky stages. In my opinion, that's like a cheeseburger with no ketchup. Edible, but just not the same.

Also, There was an item switch? How did you get it?

 

[Curious Villager]

Also, There was an item switch? How did you get it?

If I remember correctly. You just had to play vs mode 100 times.

 

[Shorts]

Because that's the face that all smash fans put on themselves. To the point where one of my friends keeps wanting to play without items or wacky stages. In my opinion, that's like a cheeseburger with no ketchup. Edible, but just not the same.

Also, There was an item switch? How did you get it?

Your friend has a different opinion than you, this is okay. I like playing all stages, low items in Melee. But I'll play final des no items as well.

Personally "casuals" sound about as stubborn as "competitive players", just in different ways.

 

[Since64]

Your friend has a different opinion than you, this is okay. I like playing all stages, low items in Melee. But I'll play final des no items as well.

Personally "casuals" sound about as stubborn as "competitive players", just in different ways.

Perhaps you are right.

 

[SmashShadow]

And that Bruce Faulconer DBZ talk earlier was refreshing. Speaking of which, anyone know of or looking forward to the DBZ Battle of the Gods movie? Apparently it's all the rage in Japan right now, so surprised that was never brought up before, especially since the main villain Bills is very Mewtwo-esque as a cat.

So much yes! I can't wait to see this new Super Saiyan God mode Goku has in action.

 

[bobadz]

Eclair is the French word for lightning. I think it's real givin the French setting.

 

[FalKoopa]

Eclair is the French word for lightning. I think it's real givin the French setting.

2L8. We've heard it already.

 

[bobadz]

Sorry for being a slow typer.

So much yes! I can't wait to see this new Super Saiyan God mode Goku has in action.

It's funny that in the same year Goku and Mewtwo get new form(e)s.

 

[Since64]

Eclair is the French word for lightning. I think it's real givin the French setting.

Guys? I really think this is a new pokemon. The official site says so, I've been checking (yeah, SM4SH isn't the only game I'm Chomping at the bit for.). If, ugh, Mewclair IS directly related to Mewtwo it will be another mew clone, or an evolved (or pre evolved) form