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[Swamp Sensei]

What I am more interested is how a troll obsessed with the buttocks of various Nintendo characters (particularly Peach) got inside information for Smash Bros.

Well you see, he probably sneaked through the rear and overheard Nintendo's assesments. It's sounded better in hind sight but, he did it anyways.

Wow, that was cheesy.

Michiah's DLC got me thinking. Would Nintendo go even farther with their fanservice? I sure hope they don't. It's already a little too far as it is.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Ghirahim would be the new Zelda character, to give another villain to Smash

Impa is the new Sheik

 

[ChronoBound]

Michiah's DLC got me thinking. Would Nintendo go even farther with their fanservice? I sure hope they don't. It's already a little too far as it is.

I already talked about that in the Fire Emblem character discussion topic. You should see Nowi/Nono for something even more creepy as far as fanservice goes (imagine a loli in lingerie). The fanservice (of the pervert variert) was one of the most jarring things I found about FE13.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I already talked about that in the Fire Emblem character discussion topic. You should see Nowi/Nono for something even more creepy as far as fanservice goes (imagine a loli in lingerie). The fanservice (of the pervert variert) was one of the most jarring things I found about FE13.

Yeah. Nowi (and Michiah) desperately needs more clothes. I hope that this only stays in Fire Emblem. If Samus started to do things like that (kinda has happened in a way) I think I shall lose faith in humanity.

 

[Frostwraith]

Samus wore a bikini in classic Metroid games during the 100% endings...

Also, Kid Icarus got its share of fanservice too. See Phosphora and Amazon Pandora (more the latter than the former).

 

[TheCreator]

Lol @ me deciding to look at this thread again and the topic is fan service

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Yeah. Nowi (and Michiah) desperately needs more clothes. I hope that this only stays in Fire Emblem. If Samus started to do things like that (kinda has happened in a way) I think I shall lose faith in humanity.

Don't worry Micaiah will go back to normal once the sequel comes

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I can only blame the artist (the one behind No More Heroes) that did the character designs for FE13. The fanservice must have stemmed from that.

The one good thing though is that I don't think it's likely that the same artist will stay to make artwork for a next FE-game.

 

[Frostwraith]

Because Nintendo is totally for kids, all the females are sweet princesses.

/obvious sarcasm

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Samus wore a bikini in classic Metroid games during the 100% endings...

Also, Kid Icarus got its share of fanservice too. See Phosphora and Amazon Pandora (more the latter than the former).

Yes but she has improved. Doesn't show as much as she used to.

And at least those two are grown women/goddesses.

 

[Frostwraith]

Yes but she has improved. Doesn't show as much as she used to.

And at least those two are grown women/goddesses.

Yeah, I know. Nowi was a little excessive though.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

King Daniel's latest roster

 

[Swamp Sensei]

King Daniel's latest roster

No Ridleh?!?!

NO!!!!

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

DragonSniper: And if anything, just give her anything better for a "DLC"-costume, like this:

Spoiler

Source

Here's hoping the FE x SMT-crossover might help Micaiah get better stuff.

 

[Shorts]

Mega Man:
During the last analysis, Mega Man was on par with Mewtwo in terms of votes. However, this time, Mega Man has a sizable lead over Mewtwo. Mega Man seems to be the next Sonic, in the sense that he is more requested than any other Nintendo character, and yet the only widely requested third-party character. It makes sense that Mega Man is at the top of this poll considering that Mega Man is one of the most iconic video game characters and has a strong history with Nintendo consoles. Mega Man is probably the one newcomer that could bring the most hype to Smash 4. He stands a very good chance of being confirmed at E3 2013 for this very reason.

4chan really helped him out. I wonder, if he gets revealed in E3, which third party will jump to number one. Pac-Man? Geno? Layton? Probably one of these three. I'm excited for the surge in activity, will do wonders for my future poll. I expect thousands of votes by E3 2014. Maybe even in the two thousands.

Mewtwo:
Although Mewtwo has fallen behind Mega Man, he is definitely a very solid second place, with the character with the third most votes being more than 50 votes behind Mewtwo. Mewtwo falling behind Mega Man is possibly due to him not being the single-most important character to an iconic series like Mega Man is. However, Mewtwo is definitely the most popular Pokemon that was not playable in Brawl, and by far the most iconic legendary Pokemon in the series. Mewtwo hailing from a series that is one of the Nintendo's two biggest, and already having been in Smash Bros. before, gives him an edge over every other character not named Mega Man. Mewtwo has the potential to become even more requested due to his upcoming appearance in the next Pokemon movie. Mewtwo is a candidate for a character to be confirmed at E3 2013 due to how strongly desired he is for Smash 4, especially factoring in both the Western and Japanese fanbases

Okay, I got to thinking, how would you feel if:

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer (Char/Ivy/Squirt)
Meowth
Mewtwo

To me, this is a good way to not have to worry about the latest and greatest of future generations. These are the biggest names in Pokemon, and it's five slots. Not that I'm against any generations getting in.

Ridley:
In the previous analysis, Ridley was on par with K. Rool for votes. Now he has a sizable lead over K. Rool in votes. Ridley having a lead over K. Rool is probably due to that there has been a much longer wait for Ridley (there has been a large amount of fans asking for Ridley for over a decade, while the demand for K. Rool really did not take off until Diddy Kong was confirmed in late 2007), as well as Ridley having at least two prominent appearances since Brawl's release. Ridley has been with the Metroid series since the very beginning and is the most iconic character from that series aside from Samus herself. Ridley is probably the one Nintendo newcomer that could produce the most hype for Smash 4. Ridley stands a very good chance of being among the first newcomers shown at E3 2013 for this very reason (especially considering E3 is a Western show, and Ridley is especially desired in the West).

This is what I like about having so many votes. You get to see how the characters really fare compared to one another. The way things have played out with the top four really makes sense. Megaman is pretty much the new "Dream addition" so no wonder he's ranked first. Mewtwo is second because he's an old favorite that people want revived. Ridley being behind Mewtwo just makes sense since he's the most wanted Nintendo newcomer, but he isn't quite on par with a popular character was already once in Smash.

K. Rool:
K. Rool has fallen behind Ridley since the last analysis. K. Rool is definitely among the Top 5 most wanted newcomers for Smash 4 though. K. Rool is similar to Ridley in that he is the closest thing to a main antagonist for his respective series, however, K. Rool has a few deficits that make him fall behind Ridley. One is that K. Rool's last major game role was pretty much Donkey Kong 64, which was released in late 1999. Although he had the role of antagonist in Paon's DK games (the last of which was released in 2007), none of those sold well or had the reception of Rare's DK games. The only DK game that has been able to match Rare's games in sales and fan reception was Donkey Kong Country Returns, of which K. Rool (and Dixie Kong) were absent. For this, its possible there is a faction of DK fans that are unfamiliar with K. Rool, or at least don't see him as important to the franchise. Regardless, K. Rool is still far more requested than nearly every other possible newcomer, and has a good chance of being one of the newcomers shown at E3 2013 due to the strong demand for him.

Little Mac:
Little Mac has made big strides since the last analysis. He is now within striking distance of K. Rool, and has over 50 votes over the character that is in sixth place on the poll. Little Mac is definitely within the Top 5 most wanted characters in the West. Little Mac being where he is mostly due to being the most iconic character for a long-running Punch-Out series. The NES Punch-Out remains one of the most popular titles for the console, and the Wii installment was very well-received. With a series that began in 1984, and has had five installments, Little Mac is probably the best candidate for a newcomer for a series that has yet to have a playable character in Smash Bros. Due to his very high popularity in the West, like all the other characters mentioned so far, he has a good chance of being among the first newcomers unveiled for Smash 4 at E3 2013.

I'm just wondering if the "Urban Champion"-or whatever his name is- argument is actually valid in Sakurai's mind. Also, who would you consider the most popular small franchise in Japan?

Waluigi:
Waluigi made massive strides since the last analysis. However, I strongly doubt Waluigi is the sixth-most wanted character for Smash 4. The very strong performance for Waluigi in the poll right now can be pointed to Shortie posting the poll at 4chan (of which Waluigi is extremely popular due to his meme and troll status amongst Nintendo characters). Looking at polls held at other websites, Waluigi's popularity is usually on par with other characters (on GameFAQs) or on par with Paper Mario (on SmashBoards). He is definitely not the sixth most wanted character for Smash 4 (or the seventh, or the eighth, or even the ninth). I think his performance in this poll had it not been for the 4channers would be behind Roy and Shulk, and around where Ghirahim is (probably slightly behind). Of all the popularly requested characters, Waluigi probably has the most detractors, and is the least likely to get in Smash 4. He will probably reprise his role as an Assist Trophy though due to high popularity.

Just can't wait for him to be "de-confirmed". I also don't regret going to 4chan. I'm looking to see everyone's opinions (Waluigi fans and all) I think I may head over there again in a few days (this time early morning/afternoon instead of late night". Honestly, I don't even know where to take the poll anymore. I've been to: SmashWorldForums, Reddit, 4chan, AllIsBrawl, Smash4U, Dustloop, Shoryuken, tumblr, Neogaf, Neoseeker, GameFAQs, and probably a few places I forgot. I need a new audience.

Isaac:
Regardless of being seventh place on this poll right now, I don't think there is any doubt in my mind that overall Isaac is the sixth most wanted newcomer for Smash 4 in the West. Since the last time I did an analysis, Isaac has further cemented himself as the sixth-most wanted character by having an even larger lead over Palutena (over 30 votes). The Golden Sun series is probably the most popular Nintendo series aside from Punch-Out that has yet to have a playable character in Smash Bros., and Isaac remains by far the most popular main character of that series. As I said before, it really speaks volumes about how much Isaac's fanbase has held up over the years. As with Ridley, there have been people asking for him for Smash Bros. for over a decade. After E3 2013, Isaac stands a strong chances of being among the Top 5 most wanted characters for Smash 4.

Since I've been going more places with this poll, I'm curious to see how Nintendo's biggest Small franchise (Animal Crossing) would fare.

Shulk:
Shulk's position pretty much stated the same with the exception of Roy catching up to him. As I said last time, I think the primary reason why there is not more interest in Shulk is due to the low availability of Xenoblade and how few people played the game he was featured in relative to nearly every other character on this list. Its impressive that Shulk is as high as he is considering Xenoblade was not a big sales hit. If it turns out Shulk is the main protagonist of X (or has some sort of importance in it), his support has the potential to increase further.

You have to admit, it's pretty amazing for him to be this high on the poll, despite being extremely young.

Ghirahim:
Yet another character whose position has remained relatively consistent. The only character he has passed up compared to last time was Takamaru. As I mentioned last time, I think Ghirahim is where he is due to that Skyward Sword was not received as well as previous 3D home console Zelda games. Ghirahim will probably continue to enjoy high levels of support until we first see the next home console Zelda. If Link is shown having his Skyward Sword design at E3 2013, then the Ghirahim fanbase has the potential to grow, or at least become much more confident.

I figure, it would only make sense that he would be in SS attire? The biggest question is, will Zelda? Anyways, still think Sakurai probably has more interest in Tingle or Toon Zelda than Ghirahim. But he would be an awesome addition nonetheless.

Takamaru:
One of the biggest losers compared to the last time I did an analysis on this poll. Last time, Takamaru was 11th place on the poll, and was basically on par with Waluigi (only one vote behind) and less than 10 votes behind Roy. Now, Takamaru has fallen much, much further behind Waluigi and Roy, and a slew of other characters have left him in the dust such as Ghirahim, Chrom, and Bowser Jr. Pac-Man and Geno are also within five votes of passing him up as well. It seems to be that although Takamaru is by far the most popular retro character for Smash Bros., it seems that he may only be a popular choice among avid Smash Bros. or Nintendo fans. To many people, he is pretty much unknown. Probably the most played game featuring him is Nintendo Land. Despite Takamaru's much lower position on the list, he is definitely among the most likely potential newcomers to be shown at E3 2013. For those curious, relative to Pit (before he was confirmed), Takamaru is definitely less requested. This is perhaps even worse when considering that most of Smash 4's potential newcomers don't compare to the newcomer pool that Brawl had. However, going for Pit, he had two games released in the West, and the Smash Bros. fanbase knew who he was from his trophy in Melee. By comparison, the only exposure Western players have had to Takamaru is Samurai Warriors 3 (which was a niche release in the West) and Nintendo Land.

Takamaru getting into Smash will likely have a lot less to do with fan demand, and more to do with the retro slot that usually is added.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

DragonSniper: And if anything, just give her anything better for a "DLC"-costume, like this:

Spoiler

Source

Here's hoping the FE x SMT-crossover might help Micaiah get better stuff.

Here is hoping as well, as I am not a fan of the Awakening design (like most of you are). I loved the design for Radiant Dawn though.

But as long as she got in I would be happy (mostly).

That costume would be awesome though, regardless if it is the main or an alternate. The starting one in Radiant Dawn, the light mage, should be in there somewhere though.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Didn't know Mewtwo was a StarFox character.
Anyway sadly they're too many, but I'd go with this roster. Only lil' chubby Ridley is missing.

Also did Little Mac and Wario switched places lol?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Made this for a two page spread assignment at school, felt like posting it here as well

 

[Vintage Creep]

God it's gonna be AWESOME.

 

[Frostwraith]

DragonSniper: And if anything, just give her anything better for a "DLC"-costume, like this:

Spoiler

Source

Here's hoping the FE x SMT-crossover might help Micaiah get better stuff.

She looks great. Reminds me of Radiant Dawn's ending, where Micaiah becomes Queen of Daein. That outfit certainly gives a royal vibe almost fitting Micaiah as a queen.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

The trailer shows her with the other crew so no need to worry.

Okay, so I checked Nowi and DEAR GOD she puts Victini to shame with being so young yet so OLD.

Doesn't she get tired living on endlessly? (Ya know what, when I think it's a good time, I'll kill her off so she can finally get to rest.)

 

[peeup]

New topic.

What are the odds of an Animal Crossing rep, and who would it be?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

New topic.

What are the odds of an Animal Crossing rep, and who would it be?

Pretty low, especially since Sakurai didn't in Brawl because of its lack of fighting (not fitting in)

Franchises like Sin & Punishment, Golden Sun, Advance Wars, Xenoblade, Last Story, Pandora's Tower, Custom Robo, and the Wii series stand a better chance of getting a rep.

I am working on the idea of a Tom Nook AT though, have the concept but need to work it out.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Seeing how New Leaf is selling incredibly good, I think we're around 95% only because nothing's certain.
I would like to have Mr. Resetti (has my signature states).

 

[Deleted member]

Hopefully finished due to that huge hole in the logic...

Uhm... Sure. Well, if you wanna see it that way, I ain't gonna stop you Yuui.

@the whole thread as of late

HEY, It's JOE!!

What I am more interested is how a troll obsessed with the buttocks of various Nintendo characters (particularly Peach) got inside information for Smash Bros.

W-what?

I already talked about that in the Fire Emblem character discussion topic. You should see Nowi/Nono for something even more creepy as far as fanservice goes (imagine a loli in lingerie). The fanservice (of the pervert variert) was one of the most jarring things I found about FE13.

Nah, as an anime fan, in an industry plagued with gratuitous scenes, I gotta say: you can't ever have too much fanservice.

 

[Starphoenix]

Why did that man have so much connection with Nintendo? For one, how did he get a hold of him? And for two, how did he learn of Mewtwo being cut so early on? He's like the lame version of FatmanOnIce. At least he tried to give Nintendo a case FOR a character.

Why he has connections to Nintendo and Game Freak I could not tell you, but he does. He told everyone early on Lucario would be playable and Mewtwo would not return.

Just can't wait for him to be "de-confirmed". I also don't regret going to 4chan. I'm looking to see everyone's opinions (Waluigi fans and all) I think I may head over there again in a few days (this time early morning/afternoon instead of late night". Honestly, I don't even know where to take the poll anymore. I've been to: SmashWorldForums, Reddit, 4chan, AllIsBrawl, Smash4U, Dustloop, Shoryuken, tumblr, Neogaf, Neoseeker, GameFAQs, and probably a few places I forgot. I need a new audience.

I think you're missing the largest mediums of all: Facebook and Twitter. Although it may not happen, what would be very interesting to see is Nintendo's official Facebook page hold some kind of poll. I know they posted that status asking people who they wanted in the next game, but a poll is much more specific.

W-what?

Oh NyasNya. You had to be there.

 

[BluePikmin11]

If a character was cut, then he was cut period, and the character will never come back.

 

[JOE!]

Heya Manly, you see the new tutorial I posted?

 

[Deleted member]

If a character was cut, then he was cut period, and the character will never come back.

Oh how I wish you were right... not just for Smash either.

Heya Manly, you see the new tutorial I posted?

No dude, over at MYM? I actually have a few questions about MYM and what we're allowed to do. I noticed some people do MvC3 MYM. I'll send you a PM when I gather my thoughts a bit.
Anyway, I'll check out your tut.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Crazy facts about Japanese: magic mushrooms where literally sold just about everywhere pre-2012 in Japan.

 

[Oasis_S]

@Shorts: Hey, y'know, if you put it one way, it's kind of nice that Ridley is the most wanted new Nintendo character for Smash on your poll... BD

 

[Second Power]

Crazy facts about Japanese: magic mushrooms where literally sold just about everywhere pre-2012 in Japan.

Are we talking promotional candy mushrooms for the Mario series, or the kind of mushroom that come up on the fridge logic part of TvTrope's Mario page?

 

[Frostwraith]

Crazy facts about Japanese: magic mushrooms where literally sold just about everywhere pre-2012 in Japan.

Ooh! So that's why the Japanese are so crazy...

 

[Diddy Kong]

Are we talking promotional candy mushrooms for the Mario series, or the kind of mushroom that come up on the fridge logic part of TvTrope's Mario page?

Psychedelic ones.

Yet they're apperantly extremely paranoid about a certain herb... Would fix the suicide ratio a lot I'd think

Conclusion: most game developers have been seriously tripping before 2012. Probably the ones responsible for making your favorite games to.

 

[Second Power]

Conclusion: most game developers have been seriously tripping before 2012. Probably the ones responsible for making your favorite games to.

Ah. That would most likely be why I could never give my little brothers an adequat explanation for anything in Mario.

 

[Frostwraith]

Thinking clearly, anything Japanese is simply strange stuff, be it anime, manga, video games or even mythology!

Speaking on developers... Yoshinori Ono and Katsuhiro Harada, 'nuff said.

Also, any of those Japanese prank shows.

 

[Starphoenix]

Is it just me, or is Mewtwo looking a little bit more cat-like these days?

One Genesect for every drive?

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Peppy: You're becoming like your mother.

 

[Diddy Kong]

As said before: Mewtwo will ****ing CREAM that Genesect.

Also, seeing Mewtwo like that makes me feel like me 10 year old self again.

 

[Shorts]

I just don't know how I could go about using Twitter or Facebook. Otherwise I would be there right now!