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[PsychoIncarnate]

And here I though Ike replaced his arm with a sword

 

[Big-Cat]

You tell the Chu what to do, you gonna get Smashed.

I see what you did there.

@Manly
Fun fact. Guts was influenced by this guy.

 

[Deleted member]

I see what you did there.

@Manly
Fun fact. Guts was influenced by this guy.

Really now? That I didn't know. But reading up on that series I can certainly see the resemblance. Added to my backlog, I gotta check this series out now.

Guts stands as one of my favorite Anime/Manga protags alongside Koyomi Araragi (Bakemonogatari) and Spike Spiegel (Bebop). They're just very well written and fleshed out characters with a lot of originality.

You tell the Chu what to do, you gonna get Smashed.

Well then, it looks like we might be in for a.....

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SMASHING

time.

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Now this begs the following question:

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How come there aren't any Smash Bros Nigel edits? The possibilities are endless...

 

[Diddy Kong]

Umm guys. Ike still has both arms. Its the pose...

 

[Croph]

Overall, I think Double Dash was pretty underrated as far as Mario Kart games go.

Yeah, Double Dash is a great game. Heck, it's more balanced than Mario Kart Wii. One of my favourite courses is Baby Park. I always loved playing as Bowser Jr. (which I love how he was a light weight back then) and Diddy, so there'll be Bowser Shells and Giant Bananas galore!

And here I though Ike replaced his arm with a sword

I always thought that Ike donated his body to science. So they chopped off his arm, which will now serve as the third "Hand" for Smash 4, and is replaced with a Lightsaber. Also, they covered his skin with robotic armour, as well as replacing his insides with robotic parts. So he's like the new Inspector Gadget. Watch out!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy + Para Troopa or Baby Mario / Luigi was one of my favorite combo's in Double Dash. As long as it was Diddy with someone else I didn't care. I still believe he's the most usable character in Double Dash cause of those Gaint Bananas.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Oh maan, Double Dash was the bomb. I absolutely loved Yoshi and Diddy-combo (Yoshi being the thrower with that homing egg of his and Diddy driving like a boss). And really I think that DD, while rivaling almost MK7 in means of limited content, is a concept that should be looked upon and brought back in some form (ESPECIALLY THE SPECIAL WEAPONS).

 

[TheCreator]

I loved those damn baby buggies in double dash. They were so awesome.
And on pacman, I really want him in smash. I certainly feel he deserves to be in.
Also, I was thinking. SSBM HD REMASTERED

 

[8-peacock-8]

Also, I was thinking. SSBM HD REMASTERED

It will have Snake like Kojima wanted.

 

[FlareHabanero]

No, it will have King Dedede instead of those 6 lazy character rehashes.

Deny it all you want, but that should of been how things turned out to begin with.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

No, it will have King Dedede instead of those 6 lazy character rehashes.

Deny it all you want, but that should of been how things turn out to begin with.

But I like some of those "rehashes."

An HD remix would be interesting. The only new content I could see would be to add that "akaneia" stage. It would probably just be a balance patch for the most part.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Add in Diddy, Wario, King DeDeDe / MetaKnight and we're cool. Those would've made the Melee roster a LOT more acceptable.

 

[SmashChu]

Rule of thumb, I never use VGChartz. The guy behind that site admitted that most of his numbers are his own estimates. That site is even banned at NeoGAF for that reason.

For my numbers I use Media Create and Famitsu (for Japanese sales). For Western sales, due to how much the NPD has been restrictive with numbers in recent years, Nintendo's own financial reports are probably the best thing to go by.

VGChartz is fine to use. It is an estimate.

Yes, official sources are better, however

1. Official sources do not have information on every game. NPD is a great example of this
2. They are only for a specific time frame, much less than VGChartz

Official sources are better when available, but 90% of the time, they aren't. VGChartz suffices for the other 90% of the time.

Yeah, I would say if Namco was not developing Smash 4, there would be very little interest in Pac-Man. However, among third-party characters that are not Mega Man, Pac-Man seems to be the most wanted one.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-wii-u/65276098

This was a poll I did to see who was the most wanted third-party newcomer with Mega Man out of the picture. Pac-Man, as expected, was the plurality choice. Surprisingly, Crono was the second most-wanted character (especially considering how his chances are regarded by most people as being virtually non-existent). After that, its like SmashChu said, a "no man's land". Considering Crono basically has no chances for Smnash 4, basically Pac-Man is the only other third-party character there is any sort of desire for after the the massive dropoff from Mega Man.

I restricted the poll to one vote per IP address btw.

Even still, I don't expect Pac-Man for the reason you had to exclude Mega Man.

The problem with third party characters is none of them are popular enough. Sonic was barely popular, and they had to squeeze him in at the last minute. Mega Man doesn't come close and Pac-Man being a distant second doesn't help him either.

Sakurai has shown us he's hesitant to add third party characters, so these results don't bode well for Mega and Pac.

C'mon man, don't go around acting like drinking makes you superior to others, it's not cool. Drinking for the sake of fitting in is the worst. I see that over here in Spain all the time and honestly it's rather pathetic. People become slaves to their habits. 22 here and I don't really drink, only one cup of Wine/Champagne on special occasions.

If people wanna stay clean, you should let them do just that, everyone is entitled to make their own choices in life.

Most of the people here don't drink because they want to stay pure. They are just ninnies. I'm sure many of the people here have barely tried it, it at all.

Normal people drink at least socially. I figure your a ninny if you just don't drink at all.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Or you wanna stay fit? I wouldn't drink if I was still lifting either. Also, some here are underage. I drink occasionally, just for the fun, but it's not like life isn't complete without it.

Melee HD would be awesome, but I doubt Sakurai would make such a game. Rather, Nintendo would make it themselves.

 

[ChronoBound]

I think if Pac-Man (or any other Namco character) were to happen, it would be at the E3 2013 unveil. If no Namco character is shown, then pretty much a Namco character likely won't happen.

 

[TheCreator]

I think if Pac-Man (or any other Namco character) were to happen, it would be at the E3 2013 unveil. If no Namco character is shown, then pretty much a Namco character likely won't happen.

Agreed

 

[Diddy Kong]

Agreed as well. But I don't want Pac Man actually. Rather not discuss the character at all untill.

 

[ChronoBound]

I actually think its a possibility that Namco could try to convince Sakurai to include up to three Namco characters of which they would be someone from Tekken, someone from Tales, and Pac-Man. However, as I said before, if a Namco character were to happen, E32013 is where it would occur, considering there is no hype or much demand for one.

I actually think its possible we could get both a Namco character and Mega Man at the E3 2013 unveil, since I think Mega Man being confirmed for Smash 4 would be a much more fitting 25th-anniversary triumph than two fan games. However, as N3ON said in another topic, I could see them holding off on Mega Man as their "Sonic" if they have to unexpectingly delay the game.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Again, I will say that Nintendo handling Mega Man would be a big case of delicious irony. Like somehow the company that Mega Man is from, Capcom, is so incompetent at handling their own IPs that a different company entirely would do a much better job. Kind of depressing actually.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Dunno if they'd do that. I suspect Namco will just work on Smash and be cool that they have such an influence / trust that they're allowed to work on it the first place. I doubt they'll be pushing for characters at all.

 

[ChronoBound]

Regardless, the Pac-Man fans basically have less than five months until they know whether their character will be in Smash 4 or not.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I think I'm the only one who doesn't expect them to put priority in showing new characters. Mostly, I think they'll show where the main differences would be between the Wii U and 3DS versions.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I would kind of like Pac-man and Mega Man revealed at the same time, basically to mock Street Fighter x Tekken for mocking both of them.

I know it won't happen, but I digress.

 

[~automatic]

Regardless, the Pac-Man fans basically have less than five months until they know whether their character will be in Smash 4 or not.

They're not revealing EVERYTHING about the game at E3.

If he were to be included, E3 would be a great place to show him though; a la Snake.

 

[Ember Reaper]

I'm thinking one third party reveal if any at E3. I think it would be better to be Megaman for the purpose of making Megaman fans happy that Capcom didn't give up on their blue bomber.

I think a better unveil would be to have the normal 4. (Mario, Link, Kirby, and Pikachu)
Then reveal some newcomers. ... doesn't matter who really I'll just say: Little Mac, Takamaru, Palutena for example. It wouldn't make sense to not have Pit here, so have him at unveil too.
And then the surprise aspect would be Mewtwo coming back and showing Ganondorf's new moveset. So a majority of things remains hidden, we see likely newcomers, and we get ganondorf how he should and mewtwo returns. sounds good to me.

I agree with ~automatic. Just because sometihng isn't shown doesn't mean it won't be in the game. Maybe a namco rep will be like sonic's reveal.

 

[8-peacock-8]

@Habanero
Mario, Sonic, and Snake are fighting on Final Destination, the camera then zooms out to a near by cliff. Suddenly two boots stomp on the ground in front of the screen. A large blue one on the left and a smaller red one on the right.

The screen goes black and you hear one of Megaman's 8-bit sounds and a wakkawakka.

End of the trailer reveal. Lol

 

[BKupa666]

Three Namco characters just isn't going to happen. Sakurai has spoken numerous times about not wanting to add third parties willy-nilly, and for about two years, he was content letting Snake be Brawl's only third party; Sonic came last minute because of overwhelming popularity. We've witnessed how split the desire for third parties are now, aside from Megaman (and possibly Pacman), so it's not probable Sakurai will do the same with them. A placeholder "Tales/Tekken character" just doesn't fit into the game vision Sakurai has clearly laid out for us.

 

[Deleted member]

Most of the people here don't drink because they want to stay pure. They are just ninnies. I'm sure many of the people here have barely tried it, it at all.

Normal people drink at least socially. I figure your a ninny if you just don't drink at all.

>Your a ninny

I'm sorry but I can't help but chuckle at these sorts of things... Hehehe

Anyway,

nin·ny
/ˈninē/
Noun
A foolish person.


I suppose, different strokes for different folks I guess. I'm usually the life of the party and I'm the dude that doesn't drink. Just don't force your opinion on others like that. It's not cool.

You can justify your lifestyle in any way you like, but there are a lot of underage users in here so take that into consideration as well.

There's nothing wrong with being straight edge.



Anyway, On-Topic.

If they made a Melee HD release it'd be one of the few rehashes I'd be hyped for, simply because it would be guaranteed to have online play, and not just ANY online play, but the WiiU's GLORIOUS online play.

Like with Guilty Gear #R, I'd get it in a heartbeat.

 

[Ember Reaper]

Survivor Gabon!!

If they made a Melee HD release it'd be one of the few rehashes I'd be hyped for, simply because it would be guaranteed to have online play, and not just ANY online play, but the WiiU's GLORIOUS online play.

This would be very good... oh so good.

 

[FlareHabanero]

By the way, I think the reason Sonic was such a such a late addition was because the requests for the character didn't come in UNTIL Snake was revealed. You know, the character that opened up the flood gates.

I presume that it won't happen again because the possibility is still and always there.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I started to suddenly think if Tales Of-characters (those from Nintendo-systems) would do quest appearances/cameos in the story mode instead (maybe in an optional sidequest) if our prediction for Tales Of-director working on the story mode is true.

 

[N3ON]

Yeah, I assume this time Sakurai will have made adding all the third-parties one of the first things he does to not complicate the development later on down the line like Sonic did. Chances are around the same time as he was obtaining the rights to the Nintendo character he's planning to use, he also contacted whichever 3rd parties will be included this time around, as characters are one of the first things he tries to lock down.

Personally I doubt a last-minute addition à la Sonic, the only exception I could see is if Sakurai approaches Capcom for Megaman early in development, and they decline, but then later on they change their mind for some reason, or a new deal is struck (however I very much doubt this would happen, chances are they'd accept in the initial timeframe, or not at all).

Namco would probably have their character added as early as Snake was for Brawl (again, if they get a character).

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Speaking of reveals, I'm so wondering what to expect from E3's Smash-reveal. I just feel this all the time: "WHAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY MAKE ME TO GET HYPED ON THIS GAME?"
I mean, I know we might except things like 3rd party reveals but since I support characters we're sometimes considering unlikely to be in, I have basically no idea what to expect. Same for the gameplay things because nothing's ever been revealed so far... ah, the newsdrought.

 

[FlareHabanero]

At this point, I'm actually more interested in everything else. The music, the stages, the trophies, the gameplay, have at you. This mainly stems from the fact that we already have everything in place, and priorities should be focused on greatly improving and expanding everything.

This may also have to do with my pension for detail, which probably came from being a culinary student for about 3 years.

 

[ChronoBound]

Speaking of reveals, I'm so wondering what to expect from E3's Smash-reveal. I just feel this all the time: "WHAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY MAKE ME TO GET HYPED ON THIS GAME?"
I mean, I know we might except things like 3rd party reveals but since I support characters we're sometimes considering unlikely to be in, I have basically no idea what to expect. Same for the gameplay things because nothing's ever been revealed so far... ah, the newsdrought.

I am extremely curious what are the first newcomers unveiled. This is basically uncharted territory for Smash Bros. considering all the obvious characters and nearly all of the "all-stars" have already been picked.

 

[SmashChu]

By the way, I think the reason Sonic was such a such a late addition was because the requests for the character didn't come in UNTIL Snake was revealed. You know, the character that opened up the flood gates.

I presume that it won't happen again because the possibility is still and always there.

That's not true at all. Sonic was being requested before Snake was ever a reality. Usually those people were shot down because "He's not owned by Nintendo." Snake just allowed what everyone wanted to be a reality.

 

[BKupa666]

By the way, I think the reason Sonic was such a such a late addition was because the requests for the character didn't come in UNTIL Snake was revealed. You know, the character that opened up the flood gates.

I presume that it won't happen again because the possibility is still and always there.

Though I wasn't even a lurker at the time, I imagine Sonic's popularity spiked after that Melee hoax that he, Tails and Toad were super-secret hidden characters in Melee, acquired by killing 100 enemies in Cruel Melee or shooting all the credits (forget which one). He was a fan favorite before Snake was a reality, in other words.

 

[Frostwraith]

The Toad and Sonic+Tails rumors... I remember them well, even though I didn't buy anything of it.

Though many already wanted Sonic in a Smash Bros. game, everyone knew that wasn't a possibility due to Sonic belonging to Sega and not Nintendo. When Snake was revealed for Brawl, things changed drastically.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I remember that time when Snake got revealed. I was like: ****, we gonna get Sonic now.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Diddy didn't like the sound of Sonic being in?

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