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[8-peacock-8]

lol @ bringing up chicks from other fighting series to make it look as though Brawl's ZSS isn't fanservicey at all. She's still pretty damn fanservicey regardless of being 'fully covered', even with some of her moves like the "sexy kick" up-tilt. Also didn't really like how they made her come off as a punk with her voice taunts, etc.

you want to compare her to Fat Princess.

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder if Sakurai cuts no one from Brawl, and brings back Mewtwo and Roy, will he be keeping everyone for future Smash Bros. installments.

Aside from Mewtwo and Roy, the only additions I think Smash 4 needs are:
- Ridley
- Mega Man
- K. Rool
- Palutena
- Takamaru
- Little Mac
- Toad (he is getting so much promotion and promience in the Mario series, that the time to include him is now)

I don't think Sakurai would bring everyone back for a SSB5 if everyone from Brawl and Mewtwo and Roy returns because I think it's then we will see a massive revamp to the roster and along with it, lots of cuts.

I think when Sakurai means the roster's size limit has been reached, he's referring to SSB4. The best SSB5 can hope for in regards to roster size is a similar size.

 

[SmashChu]

I wonder if Sakurai cuts no one from Brawl, and brings back Mewtwo and Roy, will he be keeping everyone for future Smash Bros. installments.

Aside from Mewtwo and Roy, the only additions I think Smash 4 needs are:
- Ridley
- Mega Man
- K. Rool
- Palutena
- Takamaru
- Little Mac
- Toad (he is getting so much promotion and promience in the Mario series, that the time to include him is now)

I disagree. I think Smash is always going to have room to grow. While the characters will get less and less important, more characters only increases the variety. The more the merrier.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I liked all who were added in Brawl, honestly.

I did not like how sexualized Zero Suit Samus was in design.(she was not anywhere close to that in her original design, still sexy, but not over the top). I didn't mind that Snake was, cause that was part of his characterization and memetic status outside of Smash anyway. Samus was not a sex symbol until Brawl went too far with her design.

Okay, I do not like Ike as is, but he was still a very good addition. I can't disagree with a single one, I just wish the rest made it in as well.(the Forbidden 7) As for Bayonetta, she's ZSS's sexualized design turned up. No thank you. And the gun thing does matter. Her guns look very realistic to me as well. No, painting it pink doesn't change that. I mean, this isn't the only game series that did a lot of censoring. Yu-Gi-Oh did that to almost every gun until the some of the latest cards, when they were slightly more realistic.

However, unlike with silly anime censors that 4Kids is famous for, Smash never got any super realistic weapons before. Everything looks rather cartoony. Snake slightly pushes it, but they don't look like normal weapons either. Not a Handgun, a Shotgun, or even an AK-47, or a Machine Gun, etc. I have yet to a see a super realistic-looking sword. I mean, they're fairly close to the real thing for some of the character's main weapons(Goroh's sword, Marth's sword. Link's sword is almost there).

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I disagree. I think Smash is always going to have room to grow. While the characters will get less and less important, more characters only increases the variety. The more the merrier.

This. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIluxz34ZcI

 

[SmashShadow]

I think there's a double standard for swords anyways.They almost seem to hold some sense of honor to them in a "slaying their foe" kinda way. Knives on the other hand give off the negative connotation relating to gangs and murder. People these days aren't getting cut up by swords. They're getting shot and stabbed.

Grenades probably pushed the envelope the most in terms of Smash.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I think there's a double standard for swords anyways.They almost seem to hold some sense of honor to them in a "slaying their foe" kinda way. Knives on the other hand give off the negative connotation relating to gangs and murder. People these days aren't getting cut up by swords. They're getting shot and stabbed.

Grenades probably pushed the envelope the most in terms of Smash.

Now the knife situation makes sense. The grenade is a fun weapon. It makes Kirby more of a man. Which reminds me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZUUL5oadeQ

 

[Robert of Normandy]

lol @ bringing up chicks from other fighting series to make it look as though Brawl's ZSS isn't fanservicey at all. She's still pretty damn fanservicey regardless of being 'fully covered', even with some of her moves like the "sexy kick" up-tilt. Also didn't really like how they made her come off as a punk with her voice taunts, etc.

I know, I wasn't trying to make a point or anything, just kinda making a note of something. Yes, she's still fanservicey, especially by Nintendo standards.

I think Samus has always been sexualized to a certain extent: remember, from the very beginning the games' way of rewarding you for finishing quickly was seeing her in progressivley more revealing outfits. Of course, just because they've done something in the past doesn't mean they should continue to do it, so this isn't a justification for how sexualized ZSS has become.

 

[Aipom]

Honestly, I wasn't a huge fan of Zero Suit Samus. I felt like regular Samus did it enough justice. I would've preferred an additional newcomer as opposed to her awkward transformation

 

[Deleted member]

Compare Zero Suit Samus to the female MK ninjas, Mai Shiranue, or Ivy.

Nah, I agree with Shinpichu, in fact, a skin tight Bodysuit can sometimes be more erotic/fanservicey than a skimpy/****ty outfit (pics related).

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Also, it is generally agreed on that a certain degree of discretion is preferred in terms of fanservice and the like, rather then full on exposure. Hell, one piece swimsuits are regarded as sexier than bikinis by many, but different strokes for different folks I guess.

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Just my personal point of view on the whole matter.

I know, I wasn't trying to make a point or anything, just kinda making a note of something. Yes, she's still fanservicey, especially by Nintendo standards.

I think Samus has always been sexualized to a certain extent: remember, from the very beginning the games' way of rewarding you for finishing quickly was seeing her in progressivley more revealing outfits. Of course, just because they've done something in the past doesn't mean they should continue to do it, so this isn't a justification for how sexualized ZSS has become.

Ultimately though, does it really matter? I mean, no one ever really made a big deal of Samus' fanservice in Smash and Metroid (not negatively I mean). At least not until Other M reared it's ugly mug. I've felt it's always been a part of her character design. After all, she is a woman, so it's that contrast between Samus being a stern, cold, calculating killer, while at the time showing she does indeed have a very hidden soft, feminine side (although not vulnerable like Other M portrayed her). I guess Samus fits pretty well into the Kuudere archetype. It's part of her appeal, realizing that beneath that cold armor is actually a very beautiful woman. Giving her a degree of sex appeal is a means of projecting that to the players.

Now the knife situation makes sense. The grenade is a fun weapon. It makes Kirby more of a man. Which reminds me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZUUL5oadeQ

Wrong! SWORDS WILL ****ING CUT YOU WIDE OPEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_RpbaUU7NI

 

[ChronoBound]

I can agree with this, though IMO, possibly throw in someone like Goroh or BS, most likely BS at this point.
And he better have Wakamoto's voice in Engrish so we may keep it like we kept Falcon's Engrish voice.

I have been thinking lately that a second F-Zero character is not going to happen. By the time Smash 4 releases, the F-Zero series will have been on hiatus for a decade.

I am not hopeful about the future of the series (its situation is perhaps the most grim of all the series represented in Smash Bros. with a playable character outside of the retros).

On a sidenote, Itoi recently announced he is working on a Mother related project. However, he has stated that its not Mother 4 (he is said that he considers the Mother series finished several times before this). It is being speculated that it may be a remake of Mother 1, or a compilation of all three Mother games.

 

[Big-Cat]

I don't see the big fuss on Samus "being sexualized". It's like you guys want her to be flat chested with no curves whatsoever.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't see the big fuss on Samus "being sexualized". It's like you guys want her to be flat chested with no curves whatsoever.

I made a post mentioning the same, not sure if I only previewed it and forgot to post it before closing the tab, or if it was deleted.

Anyway, whatever, I agree with you though.

 

[Arcadenik]

On a sidenote, Itoi recently announced he is working on a Mother related project. However, he has stated that its not Mother 4 (he is said that he considers the Mother series finished several times before this). It is being speculated that it may be a remake of Mother 1, or a compilation of all three Mother games.

In other words, Ness and/or Lucas are returning and we might get a third Mother character, possibly Ninten from the original game, as the "Wolf" of the trio. But of course I'm probably over-speculating.

 

[Deleted member]

It's too bad that the West won't be getting anything. It's going to suck when we figure out this is Japan-only and Nintendo gives us all the middle finger.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Figure out? It's pretty much guaranteed to not be localized at all.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I don't see the big fuss on Samus "being sexualized". It's like you guys want her to be flat chested with no curves whatsoever.

I dunno if you had ever played Metroid-games enough to actually cherish the rarity of seeing Samus taking her suit off and looking good yet [natural while doing it.

But guess what? And no crazy fanart memes sprung up from that. That's something. Perhaps they actually had some respect for this character?

Super Metroid seems more realistic rendition of her to me (a buff woman)

Fusion, while having her looking bit like a popstar, looks rather good too.

What mattered the most is that getting to see pics like these was DIFFICULT. And the developers kept her real self hidden away from the player every game until Zero Mission came up. That kinda testamented on her being still a badass heroine rather than a hottie I see people depicting her a lot today as. It was something special about her, but didn't take over her overall character like today. Internet BTW too.

Now going on DA and typing "Samus" nets me more of ZSS-pics (sometimes hypersexualised or suggestive) than the regular Samus with in her suit or without her suit (and not having Zero Suit).

Our point's just that Samus didn't use to look like a sex model for her series this much before Zero Mission. But since Brawl, it's has almost overshadowed bounty hunter self because it seems to be more on people's minds than her actual character. Along with Other M treating her a lot differently than she acted (Fusion) or we got to experience her as before (rest of Metroids), I think it has now made her mostly a shadow of her former badass self. And personally it irks me to see her being now portrayed so much this way by the fans. It clearly shows they don't respect her as a character anymore like she was used back at past days.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

But guess what? And no crazy fanart memes sprung up from that. That's something. Perhaps they actually had some respect for this character?

I think it's also partly due to the fact that the internet wasn't as big of a deal and Rule 34 wasn't quite as prevalent as it is now. Crazy fanart would likely have popped up anyway, it always does.

 

[ChronoBound]

I don't see the big fuss on Samus "being sexualized". It's like you guys want her to be flat chested with no curves whatsoever.

I think you are having some difficulty with reading comprehension here.

Its okay for Samus to be "sexy" (she always was), but it was never a huge part of who she was until Zero Suit Samus came onto the scene. The fanservice regarding Samus was limited to the game's ending. Zero Suit Samus becoming a playable character in Smash Bros. was what made Samus into a sex appeal character. Zero Suit Samus was not a character that should have been added, especially over Ridley.

 

[Big-Cat]

I dunno if you had ever played Metroid-games enough to actually cherish the rarity of seeing Samus taking her suit off and looking good yet [natural while doing it.

But guess what? And no crazy fanart memes sprung up from that. That's something. Perhaps they actually had some respect for this character?

Not like there was much character to respect in the first place, but Rule 34 was likely just as active back then as it is now. Just because it wasn't all over the place on the Internet doesn't mean it didn't exist. The funny thing is, she's showing MORE skin now than she did in the previous games. If anything, people are more drawn by her figure in terms of attractiveness (dem legs!).

What mattered the most is that getting to see pics like these was DIFFICULT. And the developers kept her real self hidden away from the player every game until Zero Mission came up. That kinda testamented on her being still a badass heroine rather than a hottie I see people depicting her a lot today as. It was something special about her, but didn't take over her overall character like today. Internet BTW too.

They didn't really hide her gender or anything in Super Metroid. You died, you found out she was a girl. At one point in development, she was to have a death scream but it sounded too suggestive. Heck, the Japanese Super Metroid commercial didn't hide it in the slightest.

And again, she didn't have much character going on until at least Fusion, and there was next to none of it in the Prime trilogy.

And if you ask me, her incarnation in Other M was, by far, the most badass rendering of her. She showed several moments of weakness, but every time, she overcame her weaknesses in the end (though it was too late in one case) and showed how strong she was. If you don't think that's badass, then you're too used to Mary Sues.

I think you are having some difficulty with reading comprehension here.

Its okay for Samus to be "sexy" (she always was), but it was never a huge part of who she was until Zero Suit Samus came onto the scene. The fanservice regarding Samus was limited to the game's ending. Zero Suit Samus becoming a playable character in Smash Bros. was what made Samus into a sex appeal character. Zero Suit Samus was not a character that should have been added, especially over Ridley.

And you know what? It still isn't a big part of Samus. It's not like we've ever seen official Nintendo Zero Suit Samus body pillows.

Though I will agree that if she got in, so should have Ridley.

 

[ChronoBound]

I think it's also partly due to the fact that the internet wasn't as big of a deal and Rule 34 wasn't quite as prevalent as it is now. Crazy fanart would likely have popped up anyway, it always does.

I am pretty sure the internet was pretty big in 2006. It was pretty much the inclusion of Zero Suit Samus in Brawl that put Samus on the map as a hentai character.

Other posters have noted the lack of Samus porn prior to Zero Suit Samus's Brawl appearance.

Also, 95% of Metroid fans hated how Samus was portrayed in Other M.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I am pretty sure the internet was pretty big in 2006. It was pretty much the inclusion of Zero Suit Samus in Brawl that put Samus on the map as a hentai character.

Other posters have noted the lack of Samus porn prior to Zero Suit Samus's Brawl appearance.

I wasn't talking about ZSS. I was trying to explain the reason that I thought there wasn't as much "crazy fanart" of Samus before Zero Suit Samus. But TBH, what YH brought up is probably the bigger reason.

 

[ChronoBound]

I dunno if you had ever played Metroid-games enough to actually cherish the rarity of seeing Samus taking her suit off and looking good yet [natural while doing it.

But guess what? And no crazy fanart memes sprung up from that. That's something. Perhaps they actually had some respect for this character?

Super Metroid seems more realistic rendition of her to me (a buff woman)

Fusion, while having her looking bit like a popstar, looks rather good too.

What mattered the most is that getting to see pics like these was DIFFICULT. And the developers kept her real self hidden away from the player every game until Zero Mission came up. That kinda testamented on her being still a badass heroine rather than a hottie I see people depicting her a lot today as. It was something special about her, but didn't take over her overall character like today. Internet BTW too.

Now going on DA and typing "Samus" nets me more of ZSS-pics (sometimes hypersexualised or suggestive) than the regular Samus with in her suit or without her suit (and not having Zero Suit).

Our point's just that Samus didn't use to look like a sex model for her series this much before Zero Mission. But since Brawl, it's has almost overshadowed bounty hunter self because it seems to be more on people's minds than her actual character. Along with Other M treating her a lot differently than she acted (Fusion) or we got to experience her as before (rest of Metroids), I think it has now made her mostly a shadow of her former badass self. And personally it irks me to see her being now portrayed so much this way by the fans. It clearly shows they don't respect her as a character anymore like she was used back at past days.

What a great post this is. I feel exactly the same way.

 

[Big-Cat]

I am pretty sure the internet was pretty big in 2006. It was pretty much the inclusion of Zero Suit Samus in Brawl that put Samus on the map as a hentai character.

Other posters have noted the lack of Samus porn prior to Zero Suit Samus's Brawl appearance.

Also, 95% of Metroid fans hated how Samus was portrayed in Other M.

Rule 35 states that if no porn of it has been made yet, it eventually will. As I said, Rule 34 of Samus was going to happen at some time. At best, Nintendo was delaying the inevitable.

I'm in the minority and I say that she was fine in Other M and made me like her more, better to identify with. But I'm in the minority so I MUST be wrong.

 

[ChronoBound]

Rule 35 states that if no porn of it has been made yet, it eventually will. As I said, Rule 34 of Samus was going to happen at some time. At best, Nintendo was delaying the inevitable.

What is it lately with people vomiting up embarrassing trash from 4ch?

However, pornography of Samus almost certainly existed prior to Zero Suit Samus's inclusion in Brawl. However, it was a small fraction of what was made after Zero Suit Samus's inclusion in Brawl.

The sheer volume of what exists now would not be present if Zero Suit Samus was not in Brawl.

Now do you understand?

 

[Big-Cat]

Well, gee, put an attractive character in something popular, the porn count would surely rise. Hell, just putting Zero Suit Samus as a trophy would have had the same effect except at possibly a smaller scale

 

[ChronoBound]

Well, gee, put an attractive character in something popular, the porn count would surely rise. Hell, just putting Zero Suit Samus as a trophy would have had the same effect except at possibly a smaller scale

I strongly doubt putting in Zero Suit Samus as a trophy would have had much of an influence on that.

The Metroid games with Zero Suit Samus were popular, however, the Zero Suit form only made its appearance at the end of Prime 2 and Prime Hunters and Prime 3, and in all of those appearances there was no fanservice about them.

It was pretty much Brawl that was to blame.

I doubt even Other M would have changed things much.

 

[MagnesD3]

Samus should look like she hulk minus the green skin, and have her zero suit playstile and ponytail thing. I mean she does where a suit all the time she must be hella strong...

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I don't see the big fuss on Samus "being sexualized". It's like you guys want her to be flat chested with no curves whatsoever.

Just because I didn't like the way she was sexualized in Brawl doesn't mean I'm anal when it comes to fanservice in general. In fact I like some fanservice here and there, such as seeing her suitless in most of the Metroid games' endings (thought Fusion Samus was the hottest if I were to be honest), but the way ZSS was executed & sexualized in Brawl just never sat well with me for a big number of reasons, some of which I already stated.

And yeah, pretty much agree with what you guys are saying on the rest, so don't have much else to add at the moment.

edit: lol wtf @ the above post.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it's also partly due to the fact that the internet wasn't as big of a deal and Rule 34 wasn't quite as prevalent as it is now. Crazy fanart would likely have popped up anyway, it always does.

Rule 35 states that if no porn of it has been made yet, it eventually will. As I said, Rule 34 of Samus was going to happen at some time. At best, Nintendo was delaying the inevitable.

I'm in the minority and I say that she was fine in Other M and made me like her more, better to identify with. But I'm in the minority so I MUST be wrong.

I agree, I'm sure you'll find Rule 34 on even the MOST obscure characters, that haven't even been sexualized in their cannon media, and have made a brief cameo if you look hard enough. In fact, I can vouch for this as a draw***, I've seen some of the most obscure requests on fanart for characters. The fact that Samus is female is enough for her to be seen as a sexual figure on the internet. The reason we didn't see it prior to 2006 is because the mematic nature of the internet really didn't explode until around 2007-2008 when 4chan memes and stuff started going mainstream. I'm sure there was some subculture (hell, 4chan was made in 2006 is I'm not wrong, and prior to places like Newgrounds and the like took its place).

What is it lately with people vomiting up embarrassing trash from 4ch?

However, pornography of Samus almost certainly existed prior to Zero Suit Samus's inclusion in Brawl. However, it was a small fraction of what was made after Zero Suit Samus's inclusion in Brawl.

The sheer volume of what exists now would not be present if Zero Suit Samus was not in Brawl.

Now do you understand?

At least do me a favor and stop abbreviating 4chan as 4ch, it's not 2ch or 2channel. If you don't like the place it's cool, but I don't understand why you have to be so vocal about your distaste for the place every time it gets brought up, especially considering many users on here also visit 4chan. You don't see me going around talking down on Reddit, despite my earnest dislike for it.

EDIT: LOL at MagnesD3's comment. Though, he's kinda right. If Samus is lugging around a heavy power suit you'd expect her to be more 'masculine.' Still, I think her having sexual feminine features is intended for the shock value of realizing that cold blooded bounty hunter is actually a woman. So we'll just call it the magic of fantasy and be done with it.

 

[Big-Cat]

Samus should look like she hulk minus the green skin, and have her zero suit playstile and ponytail thing. I mean she does where a suit all the time she must be hella strong...

At the very least, Other M shows she has a toned core. With She-Hulk, I'm fine so long as it's like MvC She-Hulk. Some depictions of She-Hulk make her look like a female bodybuilder. I'd be okay with this.

[COLLAPSE="Snu-Snu"]

But this one from the comics is just as good.

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Although, Samus herself isn't too far from that.

 

[ChronoBound]

The reason we didn't see it prior to 2006 is because the mematic nature of the internet really didn't explode until around 2007-2008 when 4chan memes and stuff started going mainstream. I'm sure there was some subculture (hell, 4chan was made in 2006 is I'm not wrong, and prior to places like Newgrounds and the like took its place).

At least do me a favor and stop abbreviating 4chan as 4ch, it's not 2ch or 2channel. If you don't like the place it's cool, but I don't understand why you have to be so vocal about your distaste for the place every time it gets brought up, especially considering many users on here also visit 4chan. You don't see me going around talking down on Reddit, despite my earnest dislike for it.

There were plenty of memes around on the internet prior to 2007. I was around, and I remember them vividly.

Also, I will call that cesspool whatever I want. 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch. So I don't give a damn about your hurt feelings about me disrespecting one of your favorite internet hangouts. I don't like Reddit either btw. It seems most large-scale internet communities are poisoned wombs for mass psychosis.

 

[MagnesD3]

At the very least, Other M shows she has a toned core. With She-Hulk, I'm fine so long as it's like MvC She-Hulk. Some depictions of She-Hulk make her look like a female bodybuilder. I'd be okay with this.

[COLLAPSE="Snu-Snu"]

But this one from the comics is just as good.

[/COLLAPSE]
Although, Samus herself isn't too far from that.

Yeah mvc she hulk was what im thinking of (play that game a ton..)

 

[Big-Cat]

Memes have always been around, but the main thing Manly Spirit is getting at is that they didn't start going mainstream until five years ago at most. That's the key thing here.

And yes, we get that you don't like 4Chan and that it's a cesspool about it, but like everything else you don't like, would it hurt you to not be so vocal about it?

@MagnesD3
This reminds me of how Tekken Tag 2 gave every girl man shoulders. The only ones it's not as visible is with Xiaoyu since she's naturally petite. Oh well, at least it makes sense that they're that big.

 

[SmashShadow]

ZSS was never a not sexualized character. It just became more prevalent in Brawl because of the popularity of Brawl and the fact that this was pretty much the first time that you got to fight as a well developed 3D model of ZSS. In the few games you actually got to play her you didn't use her for an extensive period of time. Brawl comes in and you play as her for hours. Then enters the snapshots of seemingly sexual things when it's really just her getting grabbed or hit or whatever awkward picture is taken.

 

[Deleted member]

There were plenty of memes around on the internet prior to 2007. I was around, and I remember them vividly.

Also, I will call that cesspool whatever I want. 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch 4ch. So I don't give a damn about your hurt feelings about me disrespecting one of your favorite internet hangouts. I don't like Reddit either btw. It seems most large-scale internet communities are poisoned wombs for mass psychosis.

Are you including NeoGAF, GameFAQs, and Smashboards in that statement?:trollface:

I was only giving you stern advice so you avoid making yourself look like a fool, but hey.

 

[ChronoBound]

Memes have always been around, but the main thing Manly Spirit is getting at is that they didn't start going mainstream until five years ago at most. That's the key thing here.

And yes, we get that you don't like 4Chan and that it's a cesspool about it, but like everything else you don't like, would it hurt you to not be so vocal about it?

Memes were mainstream prior to 2007.

Also, I am also vocally voicing my distaste to it, because you and MS keep shoe-horning stuff about it in a lot of your posts.

Sorry but they kind of trash is not appropriate for this discussion. You even had MS posting kiddie porn earlier today and having his post deleted for that.

Are you including NeoGAF, GameFAQs, and Smashboards in that statement?:trollface:

I was only giving you stern advice so you avoid making yourself look like a fool, but hey.

The only one looking like a fool here is you. Also, all those sites you mentioned have a lot of bad faults to them too. I only post on Smash Bros. related boards there. The off-topic areas are pretty nuts.

 

[Deleted member]

Memes were mainstream prior to 2007.

Also, I am also vocally voicing my distaste to it, because you and MS keep shoe-horning stuff about it in a lot of your posts.

Sorry but they kind of trash is not appropriate for this discussion. You even had MS posting kiddie porn earlier today and having his post deleted for that.

"Kiddy Porn"

Gahahaha, that's hilarious, so it WAS deleted. Good thing I didn't repost it, sometimes I can be so absentminded, I didn't know if I simply closed out on it or not.

Anyway, what's with the superior attitude bro, tone down the autism. No one is trying to start a fight with you, why does every discussion with you involved have to be a goddamn argument?

EDIT: You know what, **** this ****. I'm not getting swirled in into another offtopic flame fest with you. You and I have already started to garner a negative reputation for being ****ty posters, so that's that.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

In other words, Ness and/or Lucas are returning and we might get a third Mother character, possibly Ninten from the original game, as the "Wolf" of the trio. But of course I'm probably over-speculating.

That would be a great, if not, way of throwing a bone to all MOTHER fans. Though, we shouldn't take a mere remake too seriously.

 

[ChronoBound]

"Kiddy Porn"
Anyway, what's with the superior attitude bro, tone down the autism. No one is trying to start a fight with you, why does every discussion with you involved have to be a goddamn argument?

First off, I would not throw around the term autism as it were an insult. There are lots of posters here that have autism or autism-spectrum disorders, and they would personally find your dismissive attitude toward their disability, dehumanizing and insultive.

Secondly, its not just me that argues with you, but plenty of other people. Its just they you usually have a lot of poor opinions and beliefs about a multitude of things.