which posts are you talking about? and i have not voted
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Ronike's Test Subject Mafia: Game's Over: Town Wins! Nick pulls a Hando
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http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8494354&postcount=468
This one is directed @ Tom and explains my reasons for pushing a nick lynch in detail + my behaviour D2
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8502496&postcount=478
This one is directed @ you and explains why you're reasoning is wrong + my behaviour D2
Also, you have voted.
oh. well give me more than 18 minutes before claiming that i didn't address any of your points. i will later
Ronike is awesome for being sympathetic to my johns and not killing me. Thanks bud.
In any event, this game is ****in' mucky. >_<
I'm reading all this bickering but nothing is jumping out at me as overly scummy or suspicious. I see a bunch of what seem to be frustrated townies yelling at each other and getting no where. I'm equally frustrated with the bland nature of this game (not flavour wise of course, props to Ronike for that good stuff).
Swords being the maf recruiter was quite a pleasant surprise. Did NOT see that coming at all. That's a HUGE leg up on the maf though for us.
Tom has some interesting stuff to say, but I'm more inclined to direct attention to his discussion of the flavour than anything else. I definitely agree with his 1 maf/1 indy left speculation, considering the fact that we had a maf recuiter. Then again, Ronike may have let him do **** pre day 1, perhaps a mafia only night 0 or something, to prevent such a swing from happening. But yeah, it's pretty obvious that Ronike had every intention of building roles and assigning them to specifically match the players in this game. Tom hit the nail on the head there.
One thing that I found strange though was his claim that it's "impossible to indy hunt." Really? Do you mean that? I don't really agree with that at all. Care to elaborate the point?
I feel the Marshy has his head in the right place by taking a look at Gheb. A thorough review of Gheb's prerformance reveals a very jumpy, vindictive player. It's a risky playstyle for a maf to throw typically, but after reading what Marshy had to say about him, the pieces all seem to fit.
He gets all uptight when even the slightest questioning of his methods comes up. "Quote or it didn't happen"? Really? Are you gonna be that much of a stiff and refuse to defend yourself on principle? That's a very poor way of expressing disagreement with someone's claims if you're a town player. It fits the scum bill perfectly.
Marshy is also 100% right about Gheb taking "potshots" at inactives. I'm all for trying to stir discussion and setting a focus on an inactive from time to time, but the fact of the matter ism Gheb consistently tries to cast shades of doubt on a multitude of players for little things, such as inactivity. This lack of focus really strikes me as odd, and makes me feel what might normally just be aggressive town player is really scum trying to undermine town stability and trust.
Vote: Gheb for now. Definitely a solid candidate in my book as it stands.
I'm interested in what Marshy has to say in response to Gheb's rebuttals and the next part of Tom's thoughts. Expect to hear from me again when those come around at the latest.
In any event, this game is ****in' mucky. >_<
I'm reading all this bickering but nothing is jumping out at me as overly scummy or suspicious. I see a bunch of what seem to be frustrated townies yelling at each other and getting no where. I'm equally frustrated with the bland nature of this game (not flavour wise of course, props to Ronike for that good stuff).
Swords being the maf recruiter was quite a pleasant surprise. Did NOT see that coming at all. That's a HUGE leg up on the maf though for us.
Tom has some interesting stuff to say, but I'm more inclined to direct attention to his discussion of the flavour than anything else. I definitely agree with his 1 maf/1 indy left speculation, considering the fact that we had a maf recuiter. Then again, Ronike may have let him do **** pre day 1, perhaps a mafia only night 0 or something, to prevent such a swing from happening. But yeah, it's pretty obvious that Ronike had every intention of building roles and assigning them to specifically match the players in this game. Tom hit the nail on the head there.
One thing that I found strange though was his claim that it's "impossible to indy hunt." Really? Do you mean that? I don't really agree with that at all. Care to elaborate the point?
I feel the Marshy has his head in the right place by taking a look at Gheb. A thorough review of Gheb's prerformance reveals a very jumpy, vindictive player. It's a risky playstyle for a maf to throw typically, but after reading what Marshy had to say about him, the pieces all seem to fit.
He gets all uptight when even the slightest questioning of his methods comes up. "Quote or it didn't happen"? Really? Are you gonna be that much of a stiff and refuse to defend yourself on principle? That's a very poor way of expressing disagreement with someone's claims if you're a town player. It fits the scum bill perfectly.
Marshy is also 100% right about Gheb taking "potshots" at inactives. I'm all for trying to stir discussion and setting a focus on an inactive from time to time, but the fact of the matter ism Gheb consistently tries to cast shades of doubt on a multitude of players for little things, such as inactivity. This lack of focus really strikes me as odd, and makes me feel what might normally just be aggressive town player is really scum trying to undermine town stability and trust.
Vote: Gheb for now. Definitely a solid candidate in my book as it stands.
I'm interested in what Marshy has to say in response to Gheb's rebuttals and the next part of Tom's thoughts. Expect to hear from me again when those come around at the latest.
Wow, 3 votes on me alread and there still haven't found anything to actually accuse me for?
Me jumpy? BS. I always CLEARLY mentioned, who my suspects were and stayed on them unlike Marshy who builds a case against Rockin and then unvotes without a reason, grills nick but drops the case as soon as I find evidence for his anti-town behaviour and then votes me for reasons that aren't more than fluff.
Also the "Gheb focuses on potshoting inactives" is a blatant lie that needs to stop being spread around. My suspects D1 were KK, whom I kept my vote on until almost end of D1 and Nick, whom I still want to lynch. None of them are inactive and this also blows up your "Gheb is jumpy" argument. I always tell inactives to speak up befor calling them suspicious (unlike Riddle who almost voted Tom only for not posting that big post right away). Only time I voted an inactive was you @D1 because nobody even knew if you were there.
So, uhmmm, I'd like to hear why my behaviour is scummy and not dummy arguments/lies like me being tunnelvisioned @ inactives, me being jumpy or fence-sitting. All of those accusations are LIES, only one of those is implies scumminess and none of those applies to me only. You call me fence-sitting after grilling Nick like that? Then tell me what you call what Junglefever is doing. You say I'm jumpy? Duh, seen what Marshy does?
Also, I find it funny how ALL the people who voted me didn't adress the points in the two posts I wrote (I even linked AND mentioned them for emphasis). It's almost ridiculous because I explicitly said that people should read them before they accuse me of anything.
Point it, as long as you have no arguments against I don't feel pressured in the slightest.
Me jumpy? BS. I always CLEARLY mentioned, who my suspects were and stayed on them unlike Marshy who builds a case against Rockin and then unvotes without a reason, grills nick but drops the case as soon as I find evidence for his anti-town behaviour and then votes me for reasons that aren't more than fluff.
Also the "Gheb focuses on potshoting inactives" is a blatant lie that needs to stop being spread around. My suspects D1 were KK, whom I kept my vote on until almost end of D1 and Nick, whom I still want to lynch. None of them are inactive and this also blows up your "Gheb is jumpy" argument. I always tell inactives to speak up befor calling them suspicious (unlike Riddle who almost voted Tom only for not posting that big post right away). Only time I voted an inactive was you @D1 because nobody even knew if you were there.
So, uhmmm, I'd like to hear why my behaviour is scummy and not dummy arguments/lies like me being tunnelvisioned @ inactives, me being jumpy or fence-sitting. All of those accusations are LIES, only one of those is implies scumminess and none of those applies to me only. You call me fence-sitting after grilling Nick like that? Then tell me what you call what Junglefever is doing. You say I'm jumpy? Duh, seen what Marshy does?
Also, I find it funny how ALL the people who voted me didn't adress the points in the two posts I wrote (I even linked AND mentioned them for emphasis). It's almost ridiculous because I explicitly said that people should read them before they accuse me of anything.
Point it, as long as you have no arguments against I don't feel pressured in the slightest.
What I'm doing? I'm sitting here watching you getting jumpy over being called jumpy.
You don't have to vote inactives to take shots at them. What do you think you just did to me and Marshy? You've been doing it all game. Also when they say you've been jumpy and sitting on the fence, that applies to that too. You want to pressure people (like myself) but you wont vote them or do anything about it. It accomplishes nothing for the town.
And I know it wasnt the same jumpy, I was being facetious
And I know it wasnt the same jumpy, I was being facetious
GREETINGS MATEYS
I will proceed to catch up now.
I will proceed to catch up now.
ugh i just made a giant post, and it was based greatly on an assumption, adn then i wnet back and foudn out that I was wrong the whole ****ing time.
Ill post tomorrow. my motivation has been thorouhgly shattered for a bit.
Ill post tomorrow. my motivation has been thorouhgly shattered for a bit.
lynch gheb and call it a day? he's an a sshat who's freaking out and calling everyone who dares to question him liars and i don't think there's a single person who isn't suspicious of him. the only people who haven't spoken up about him are kevin (likely town) and rockin. we should just ****ing go for it
frozen, gheb, what do you think about tom's lynchpool being one of us 3 today? i find his reasoning very compelling
frozen, gheb, what do you think about tom's lynchpool being one of us 3 today? i find his reasoning very compelling
I'm starting to come around to a Gheb lynch Marshy. His reaction to being suspected wasn't the strongest I've seen. It seems like instead of directly addressing suspicions, he wants to push them away by saying they're lies without really ever putting up a defense of the actions he has taken. Also, in case I haven't already
Unvote: Nick
Unvote: Nick
Riddle
Smash Lord
Back up your claims that all of our points are lies with evidence please. I can go through every point someone makes against me and say it's a lie too. It doesn't mean it is though.
Read post #482, Riddle. There are two link to my previous posts. One of them CLEARLY explains how nick is anti-town and that I'm not just nudging him for my own sake. The other proves Marshy's accusations wrong and it'ss full of lies (just read it, I pointed it out anyways).
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Uhm about that...a lot of people seem to think I'm suspicious so I'm not surprised to see that Tom thinks so too. I'm still waiting for him to respond to my point. He challenged me to "prove" why Nick is anti-town and I made a detailed post on that issue. Hope he responds to that too.
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Don't have time to make a post much now. I'll try to have some content by tomorrow evening at the latest.
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Sorry, that was supposed to be "don't have time to make a big post right now." Grammar fail. :embarrass
Riddle
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I read the links and they meant nothing. I don't need you linking to places where you did more of "I didn't do that" and "That's a lie".
That's all the second link was. First one is fine. That's not why I am suspicious of you anyways.
That's all the second link was. First one is fine. That's not why I am suspicious of you anyways.
No it wasn't? It's more than just that. Which answers weren't good enough for you?
Also, not backing up some of the claims with quotes/proof is the same as lying.
Riddle
Smash Lord
You just say "thats a lie"
You can get people to post without voting them. Which is kind of the point here.Gheb said:
Whatever.Gheb_01 said:
More thats a lie stuff.Gheb said:
Even more.Gheb said:
You still weren't on the bandwagon and it is very unlikely that scum would be.Gheb said:
No? I was just trying to work with something we were talking about at this point. It was my first post after replacing Blazer and the first thing I noticed was the discussion Nick vs Tom. Tom pressured nick but voted triddle so I asked people about their thoughts. Big deal? It was the only discussion we had at this point so why not start right there?
Nobody noticed because it isn't the case. You better quote things in context if you want your argument to be taken serious. My vote on KK was there for a reason and stayed there for a while.
The reason you voted me was because I was mentioned more than any other player as potential scum. To start a BW because you expect people to jump it.
Your case against me is complete crap and just as fluffy and misleading as the stuff nick is posting.
Need to elaborate on this. Never disagreed with anybody voting sword. Misleading and lying.
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Riddle
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what horrible formatting let me try to fix that the last part should be:
The rest of the post didn't have anything for me to respond to.
Doesn't mean much.Gheb said:
The rest of the post didn't have anything for me to respond to.
He didn't back his claim up.
You are asking me to back up my claims but it's OK if Marshy doesn't?
Only inactive Vote EVER was Frozenflame. Also, no, sometimes you can't get people to post without voting them. Example: Rockin.
Love how you skip an important point just like that.
He couldn't back his claim up. Is it too much asked to do it? I'm @L-3 now already because of his post despite the fact that he can't back up ANY of his claims (und thus do have the same value as lies - none at all). I mean this is really annoying. I'm being put at L-3 BUT WHAT FOR? For reasons that nobody can back up or varify.
But not only. Read the sentence again and you'll see that I ARGUED this point and showed him how he was wrong.
Because I was forced to argue strawmen, which leads to such conclusions.
Ronike
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A panel opens on the ceiling, and in drops some Pepperoni Lover's, stuffed crust pizza from Pizza Hut!
There's your flavor. I hope you're happy.
Vote Count:
Nick(1): Gheb
Gheb(3): Riddle, Nick, FF
Not Voting: Tom, Marshy, Jungle, Rockin, Kevin, Mentos
There's your flavor. I hope you're happy.
Vote Count:
Nick(1): Gheb
Gheb(3): Riddle, Nick, FF
Not Voting: Tom, Marshy, Jungle, Rockin, Kevin, Mentos
oh my god im so hungry right now
how could you crack that joke
how could you crack that joke
Ronike
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As soon as Tom starts to wander towards said pizza, the claw which recently collected samples from Swords and NOT nick descends once again from the ceiling, crushing said pizza and contaminating it with dried blood from the newly deceased.
"Ahahaha... that was fun.
"Why'd you have to go and ruin one of our perfectly good pizza... I'm hungry too you know..."
"Ahahaha... that was fun.
"Why'd you have to go and ruin one of our perfectly good pizza... I'm hungry too you know..."
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eats the pizza anyways
your move ronike
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eats the pizza anyways
your move ronike
Ronike
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Upon ingesting the slice of pizza covered in flakes of dried blood and Panacea, Tom immediately throws up. Upon trying to stand from his crouching position, he finds that although the Panacea that had now entered his body was too weak to control him and always would be, it did at least manage to paralyze his legs for the rest of the day, making him unable to contribute to lynching a member of the group.
Tom is voteblocked for the day. With only 9 available votes, only 5 votes are required for a lynch.
Tom is voteblocked for the day. With only 9 available votes, only 5 votes are required for a lynch.
LOOOOOOOOOL hahaha i love this game
gentlemen i do believe my brain cancer has driven me insane.
gentlemen i do believe my brain cancer has driven me insane.
O **** Son! Ronike Iz Gettin' Off!
Yeah at first I lol'd
Then i smacked Tom
smacks Tom
Then i smacked Tom
smacks Tom
do dge
not
You asked me what I think of Tom's lynchpool.
I answered: I'm not surprised to be up there. He didn't post a reason but so did nobody else who voted me so I guess it's all the same. It bothers me because he still hasn't responded to my post in which I explain the whole issue with nick but I'm not really surprised. Nothing surprises me now...
Idk for sure why you guys are on his lynchpool but it's not actually hard to see why. You building a massive case against Rockin, pushing a lynch and then unvoting without posting a reason, you agreeing that nick is a VI and needs to die and then suddenly drop that issue altogether despite me backing up these claims in detail and then jump on the gheb BW out of the blue like "ok i think he's scum olololo" doesn't make you look credible or pro-town.
Not sure what he thinks about frozen because Tom still hasn't posted anything with substance ofter challenging me to prove nick being anti-town. Maybe he dislikes his lack of input or some posts from D1 seem to be off. Not sure, need to read more on that issue.
Riddle
Smash Lord
You guys are in his lynch pool because you weren't on the swords bandwagon. Please stop skimming.
kthxbai.
kthxbai.
more direct then. do you agree that frozen or i should be lynched today based off of tom's reasoning? if you disagree with tom's reasoning then why? and if so is he scummy for it?