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ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!
- Thread starter Overswarm
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JJR.O.B.
Smash Ace
I do teh same thing except with bair instead of dairmy favorite was airdodging over the spinning blade and wavebounce-reverse-gyro cancel to grab the ledge ^_^
that and running off with gyro in hand right as he starts upB, I jump, throw the gyro at the stage, and start my dair...gyro bounces off stage, hits Ike into my dair =D
easier/less-flashy gimps make me kinda sad[except in tourney, of course]
I have glidetossed into bthrow to charged laser before. I wish it happened more than once tooGlide-toss down into usmash is unbelievably gratifying. wish it happened more than once
lol true .
Overswarm
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glide toss trixxy I don't know if I told you:
glide toss down to dash attack towards gyro = hit with dash attack and pick up gyro.
Kinda like dribbling with Diddy, but less effective and you only hit with the dash attack or a laser
glide toss down to dash attack towards gyro = hit with dash attack and pick up gyro.
Kinda like dribbling with Diddy, but less effective and you only hit with the dash attack or a laser
JJR.O.B.
Smash Ace
hmm useful to know . . . . . .
Wesley`
Smash Rookie
I'm pretty new to brawl (did play loads of Melee) and haven't played that many online matches yet so i have no clue how good/bad I'd do against others.. But what would be the first few things I'd need to learn to start becoming a decent R.O.B. player? And should I try to be very aggresive or just try and camp?
Oh and Another small request, if there's a R.O.B. player out there that would want to play some online matches with me and give me a little feedback on what I need to work on I'd really appreciate it
Oh and Another small request, if there's a R.O.B. player out there that would want to play some online matches with me and give me a little feedback on what I need to work on I'd really appreciate it
ipitydatfu
Smash Master
simply stated a good starting point is to read this whole thread. then read OS's guide.
Sudai
Stuff here
frdagaa
Smash Journeyman
Those two will be the biggest improvements we can give you.
Develop your own style according to what you're comfortable with. I'd say that in general ROB plays moderately campy, but you can take it to the extreme or play without much camping at all. It depends mostly on the person you're playing and on what you're good at doing.
Develop your own style according to what you're comfortable with. I'd say that in general ROB plays moderately campy, but you can take it to the extreme or play without much camping at all. It depends mostly on the person you're playing and on what you're good at doing.
~AceR~
Smash Cadet
I went back and tried the ledge thing, and I still lost. Perhaps I'm not doing it right.
I also need to learn how to edge guard. My edgeguarding abilities are sub-par.
Sudai
Stuff here
Frigate. Lack of edge on the right during first transformation = easy pickings. There needs to be more ledgeless stages. D:
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I really hope tourneys start making Port Town Aero Dive legal, since it's counterpick/banned on the SBR. I mean, the cars kinda ruin its competitive viability, but Brawl desperately needs a Mute City (plus I think it may be a decent MK counterpick o.O)
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Delfino Plaza is a great stage for ROB and...close enough to Mute City.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Mute City's big thing was that it had no ledges. The pass-through main platform is fine and all, but it's no substitute for ledgelessness. I think that could be a big unforseen MK weakness (not unlike Melee Sheik, who had the same weakness).
Anyway, I tend to try something different every time I counterpick MK, because I haven't found anything that works yet. Neutrals seem to be the best, especially FD, but most of the MKs around here are smart enough to ban FD.
Anyway, I tend to try something different every time I counterpick MK, because I haven't found anything that works yet. Neutrals seem to be the best, especially FD, but most of the MKs around here are smart enough to ban FD.
JJR.O.B.
Smash Ace
Why is FD a counterpick of MK?
A few reasons, one MK likes to be close to people and in their face so a big stage can be a pain. Two, MK is a beast on platforms (uairs/tornadoes from below, up+b's) and lastly if MK tornadoes and goes up high and the character smash DI's out of the top of it, MK has no platforms to fall down through to save him from being punished
Overswarm
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FD isn't so much a counterpick as it is an inconvenience.
Yoshi's Island (Pipes) CAN be good... but Vidjo practiced it and baited me onto the sides where he up+b'd me and off the side where he gimped me... and that's a hard stage to come back on.
Yoshi's Island (Pipes) CAN be good... but Vidjo practiced it and baited me onto the sides where he up+b'd me and off the side where he gimped me... and that's a hard stage to come back on.
Exia 00
Smash Champion
GAAAAAAH! can any moves get through metaknight freakin tornado @_@. Im pulling my freakin hair out.
Sudai
Stuff here
BAir, NAir, FSmash, Laser, Slightly Charged Gyro
Exia 00
Smash Champion
k, thanks =) my freind that plays MK is coming soon so i had to know. Im a defensive R.O.B so i should be fine.
MuBa
Smash Lord
Bair is prolly the best thing to use against the Tornado since it's the quickest and safest attack out of all the ones Sudai mentioned.
Sudai
Stuff here
In order of usefulness: Laser, Slightly charged gyro (only if charged before tornado starts), BAir, NAir, FSmash. Generally if I can't get a laser or gyro in time and I'm on the ground, I walk away as much as I can then shield. Only bother with the aerials if you're already in the air and in the right spot.
Mankosuki
Smash Champion
In my experience, b-air seems to be the least effective of the list. I usually use f-smash as it's the quickest to get out.
toasty
Smash Hero
as for strategies on shielding it...I never thought about this but then I saw a ROB [DragonCharlz] do this to my teams partner multiple times in tourney: Shield [dunno if he powershielded or not] and if you know the length of Meta's tornado well enough, time a spot dodge so that it ends at the same time the tornado does. that way you won't get shieldstabbed/***** by it and you have a pretty good chance to dsmashing or at least shielding Meta's dsmash =D
I'll try this tomorrow if I face an MK in tourney...
I'll try this tomorrow if I face an MK in tourney...
Sudai
Stuff here
Combo protection time: Walk away (take up tornado time), Angled Shield (prevent shield stabbing), spotdodge (epic dodge, go!), counter ****?
Sounds sexy..in a subtle way : x
ipitydatfu
Smash Master
so what are your stands on the no-tripping code?
toasty
Smash Hero
hell yeah! eff tripping man
Sudai
Stuff here
I say take tripping out, personally. I view it like items: Randomizations ftl. If not all Wiis at the tourney have it off, though, then I don't think any should.
ipitydatfu
Smash Master
yeah thats what i thought, but people are trying to mess around with hit stun, that crud might make MK god
oh well, i'll just wait and see how all his unfolds before i go and untrip brawl
oh well, i'll just wait and see how all his unfolds before i go and untrip brawl
Sudai
Stuff here
I wanted to touch on the hitstun thing, but that's a lot more complex than tripping. Tripping is a purely random occurrence that serves no purpose other than being a nuisance. It has all the randomness of explosive spawning as you smash without any of the skill that could potentially be derived from items. I'm strongly against modifying hitstun or anything else that isn't random, though. If it can be viewed as and reasonably justified as something that does nothing other than detract from competitiveness, take it out, by all means. Hitstun mods don't fit that criterion and therefore shouldn't be bothered with in my eyes. That combined with the amount of time needed to test and properly employ modified hitstun...well...people would be used to brawl with its current hitstun by then.
Exia 00
Smash Champion
xD i destroyed my friend lol. I was ultra defensive. I wish i had videos @_@ I got him so upset xD. At early percent i got him with a couple bair to down tilt combos :3 It was truely epic. ROB is better then i thought, but i still like pit more. =P
the Lexx
Smash Apprentice
Neither of those codes are likely to become tournament standard.
toasty
Smash Hero
good call Sudai...didn't think to mention the all-or-none factor
Sudai
Stuff here
All or none is always my favorite card when I'm half awake and I can use it for some reason. Looking at my post, although I got my point across, I did it in a ******** fashion. XD
Half awake point making ftw.
Half awake point making ftw.
frdagaa
Smash Journeyman
I think the no-tripping code should be used, but there's no way it'll be standard any time soon. There are too many people who are, for whatever reason, completely against it. I think that's silly, but so be it.
Pretty much like Sudai said, taking out tripping makes Brawl less random, which is good for competition. Changing around other factors, though, is basically redesigning the game. If someone wants to do that, more power to them, but it'll never be adopted by any kind of semi-significant tourney. This much more so than tripping.
Pretty much like Sudai said, taking out tripping makes Brawl less random, which is good for competition. Changing around other factors, though, is basically redesigning the game. If someone wants to do that, more power to them, but it'll never be adopted by any kind of semi-significant tourney. This much more so than tripping.