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ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!

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The only reason that Ivy isn't better is her recovery. She's got a good projectile, spacing move, powerful smashes, long range, and arials that can KO. But b-throw to ledgehog makes this match easy-sause.

Gah, JC said like all of this while I was typing. THANKS FOR MAKING ME LOOK STUPID JC:mad:
 
TeeVee

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Ik, I don't play PT but I learned the hard way from going against some of them ; every PT main I talk to says Ivy is the best, then Charizard, then Squirtle (Range and Killing just isn't up to par).
 
Overswarm

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I also agree Ivy is the best. He has the best combos, the best KO moves, and his recovery is only bad if he has to use his second jump early... which he only needs to if he's stupid and stays near the edge and gets b-throwed. The ability to over-b someone on the ledge, then jump and fair, then up+b.... he can get back.

Plus, his up+b is a spike if you're on the ledge ^_^
 
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yeah, just be alert of Squirtle's aerials and set up brick walls [when recovering, use fairs but pull back slightly enough so you don't have too much horizontal momentum so you're less open to punishment when your fairs miss] IIRC Squirtle's running grab is really really good, but it's been months since I used Squirtle. At high damage his dthrow(I think? bthrow? w/e) is ridiiiculous and will KO horizontally

With Charizard, it's mostly general Vs. Charizard stuff to watch out for:
Rock Smash is shockingly safe [good Charz will use this only when they know they can land it, so lasers will be out of the question] and don't try to DI through Charizard's fire, you'll eat like 100dmg if you're ********. It's not like Bowser's flame in Melee :(

lol Ivysaur hahaha...he'll bair a lot, try to foolishly set up for bullet seed with nairs that'll never touch you, and if you play against people who care about cheapness with edgehogging, 1) get new friends and/or 2) (gyro in hand) jump out high while they recover, they WILL go below or airdodge, you throw the gyro at the stage, it'll hit them in the middle of their upB, you upB and grab ledge, GG and your friends hate you a little less :)
 
JCaesar

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Overswarm said:
I also agree Ivy is the best. He has the best combos, the best KO moves, and his recovery is only bad if he has to use his second jump early... which he only needs to if he's stupid and stays near the edge and gets b-throwed. The ability to over-b someone on the ledge, then jump and fair, then up+b.... he can get back.

Plus, his up+b is a spike if you're on the ledge ^_^
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So jump out and fair him once. Or laser his 2nd jump. Seriously, Ivysaur is too easy to gimp.
 
Overswarm

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haha.. I'm wondering how many of you have played a good Ivysaur XD

Ivysaur is easy to gimp, but other than gimping him you don't have too much on him. Deal too much damage and he becomes impossible to edgeguard. :(
 
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Best thing about fighting Ivysaur is that he gets extra knockback from fire based moves. BAir becomes the super gimp and NAir becomes the KO at 20% move.
 
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Sudai said:
Best thing about fighting Ivysaur is that he gets extra knockback from fire based moves. BAir becomes the super gimp and NAir becomes the KO at 20% move.
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Wait really? I didn't know they included type weaknesses.
 
Sudai

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Weakness/Resistance only applies to PT pokemon. Squirtle Weak to Grass, Ivy weak to Fire, Charizard weak to water. Squirtle isn't weak to lightning so the only pokemon we even stand a chance to have the additional knockback on is Ivy. But yeah, not only is Ivy the lightest of the 3, we have even better knockback with our fire moves. BAirs should be your gimp instead of FAir. ; )
 
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Wooooo finally finished reading it all after like 3 days.

-sigh- all of you talking about tournies and such while here in TN theres hardly any.
 
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random little tip, for edge hogging, since ROBs jump is to high to ledge hop on to the ledge fast for invincibility i usually drop from the ledge and up-b quickly to regrab it.
 
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My mod chip just came in the mail today, so hopefully I'll be making some skins of my own as well. ^_^
 
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corneria is legal at a tourney im going and i'd love to abuse infinites and camping on it. how do snake/mk fare on it? Wario?
 
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hey it's warran thad. woah you have 980 posts imagine that. is LL down for you too?

anyways

mk will kick your *** anywhere XD might as well try corneria if you want though. anywhere but the mansion is probably good haha

snake, you'd probably do better off just suiciding since you're going to that tournament with Ally XD. nah, just go to corneria if you want, but i have no clue whether that'd be good against him or not

you can deathgrab wario IIRC so just go to Final so nothing can interfere with that. that's the easiest solution
 
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deathgrab wario? huh?

yes ll was down for me too, bakc up now!

ally i'm not too worried about, percon is probably just as good if not better and i did ok at him at my last tourney with little experience vs snakes. what i fear with metaknight on corneria is him up bing and grabbing the ledge/fin over and over.
 
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WarranThad said:
deathgrab wario? huh?

yes ll was down for me too, bakc up now!

ally i'm not too worried about, percon is probably just as good if not better and i did ok at him at my last tourney with little experience vs snakes. what i fear with metaknight on corneria is him up bing and grabbing the ledge/fin over and over.
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Which is why that stage should be banned....
 
Mr.E

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Snake will kill you at 60% on Corneria and fin camping makes MK unapproachable, among other things. Terrible stage for ROB in general anyway, short sides downplay his recovery, ability to gimp, and his weight.
 
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