ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!

[boss8]

hahaha he finally stopped the 3 stock....

 

[R.O.B.O.T.]

Hey, do you guys have any strategies for Lucario?

 

[toasty]

ftilt all day.

 

[Sudai]

Kill him ASAP? I mean, that applies for everyone, but definitely Lucario.

Do -NOT- approach him from below and beware of the ****ed range of any of his aura moves. It beats your range more often than not. His up-b is super easy to gimp as it has a start-up delay and lacks a hitbox of -any- kind.

Can't really give more than that though.

 

[toasty]

save your KO moves to get lower damage kills!

the ftilt approach I use is what I do for Marth as well...walk toward them, slow turn around, slow turn around again [like a really really slow dash dance haha] and do this just outside of their range...sneak in an ftilt. the next time, they'll expect something, so just wait for them to try something and then capitalize

 

[Timbers]

ROB ***** Luc with ftilt.

True story.

Also bair edgeguard his ES lol. It's like the easiest thing to accomplish ever.

 

[R.O.B.O.T.]

Ok Overswarm, what is the hardest part about Rob dittos for you?

 

[TechnoMonster]

Anyone know any good grab setups? Is u-throw or d-throw better for combos?

 

[JJR.O.B.]

dthrow definitely

You can follow it up with a uair almost every time and the knockback doesnt change very much no matter how high in percent your enemy is

the uthrow can be used as a kill move at around 120%

 

[Sudai]

Anyone know any good grab setups? Is u-throw or d-throw better for combos?

DTilt > Grab
Jab > Grab (This works well if they're already slightly in the air)
Ledge Hop > FAir > BAir > Grab (Only works at really low percents. I'm not quite sure on the percents, but I know anywhere below 20% this works. After 20% I always go for a tilt/smash.)
Anything that leads to DTilt > DTilt > Grab

As for throws:

UThrow until 30%.
DThrow has less knockback after that, though and it's better to save the UThrow to KO anyway.

 

[omegawhitemage]

the uthrow can be used as a kill move at around 120%

I'm pretty sure no member of the cast dies from u-throw until 150% at the earliest if it's fresh. That's with proper DI, so the poeple you play with must play light chars and not be able to DI at all.

 

[JJR.O.B.]

I was guessing when i said that

thanks for correcting me

 

[toasty]

yeah don't bother trying upthrow KOs on heavy chars like Snake/DDD unless they're like....220? 250? something ridiculous like that

dthrow to uair isn't good against Falco because he can throw out a dair very quickly and it WILL take priority. you CAN bait the dair and then capitalize on his attack lag, however.

 

[omegawhitemage]

If Falco is at 10-15% the d-throw to u-air will hit b4 that dair comes out 100% of the time.

 

[toasty]

oo didn't know that, thanks

 

[JJR.O.B.]

you could always dthrow to fair

 

[omegawhitemage]

U-air does more damage and can lead to a fair itself if they attack you once the move is over.

 

[JJR.O.B.]

yes, but you can follow up that fair with a whole string of fairs maybe even to a gimp

 

[Overswarm]

Ok Overswarm, what is the hardest part about Rob dittos for you?

Not being able to use ROB's natural advantages, since they have them too.

 

[Bug~]

Ive heard that ROB has an advantage over snake..Can you please explain the tactics needed to beating snake

 

[JJR.O.B.]

dont get hit

 

[alkaowari]

Hi. I was wondering, is there any "rate my R.O.B." threads?

 

[toasty]

not quite...but if you post in the video thread, people may or may not comment. sorry that isn't much of a help but it's the best I got >_>

if you have anything in the vids that show something you may have trouble with...then you can post the link in that thread and say "I need help with ____" or "what am I doing wrong?"

 

[Hey_Its_Nacker]

People need to read the thread on how to beat snake.Like everday someone asks a question thats been answered and then its just repeated over and over by more people who refuse to look.

10knackers

 

[JJR.O.B.]

where is this thread. I cant find it. Is it in the ROB forums

 

[toasty]

where is this thread. I cant find it. Is it in the ROB forums

there's some info in THIS very thread...but you could check this out too:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=169415

 

[Hey_Its_Nacker]

I was saying people need to read the thread (this one ). Because unlike other character forums we have our sweet knowledge nectar jam packed to the brim in one epic thread for people to read untill they are bursting with rob knowledge.

10knackers

 

[toasty]

this is true...

 

[Nintendevil]

I need help with Edgeguadin (geting past it). If someone chases me off the ledge or is trying to gimp me I can get them, but once I'm on the ledge and Bowser is a few feet away, using his fire, I can't get up there.


If I use my Up b, I'll have to navigate around the whole thing and I'll run out of fule. And even if I grab onto the ledge I wont refill my burner.

 

[Overswarm]

Wait for him to stop his fire, then get up.

 

[Nintendevil]

the he precedes with a Dtilt. Still not as effective, but he can hit me easily.

wich should I do?

Ledge hop (no invincibility frames)
jump (have to time it good. I think this is the best choice.
Roll (I know this never works, His reach is too good)
ledge attck (risky)

 

[Sudai]

Again, wait till he stops breathing fire and jump off. Bowser is slow. You have plenty of time between flame breath and his DTilt.

 

[R.O.B.O.T.]

Even then, there have been instances where people have DI'ed straight through the fire and pulled off an attack. It has happened when I played Bowser.

 

[toasty]

on a related note: do NOT DI toward the fire against Charizard. you can end up eating 100 damage [I was a noob when this happened, but still]

 

[ipitydatfu]

or into ivysaurs bullet seed

 

[Overswarm]

Don't DI into anything unless you know what you are doing.

I know you can DI through Bowser's firebreath a certain way and then f-smash him out of it. Difficult to explain how I do it though, since I don't really know, I just do.

 

[ipitydatfu]

yeah. you just do, crazy stuff tho, its like you run right under his belly, where little fire exists

 

[_Mar_]

Can someone help me with my ROB I'm new to him. Here are some videos even though they are pretty bad quality.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ReIj61fCE&eurl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D0uu6haBgA&eurl

 

[Ch0zen0ne]

Follow up faster, and just Nair more.

 

[_Mar_]

I'm not very good with fast characters.