ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!

[BlueXenon]

Hi. I want to main Rob and I have been using him a lot recently. Are there any bad habits for Rob that I should try to prevent from happening?

 

[stingers]

spotdodge -> dsmash (noob robs spam it, because its the easiest punish in the game. but everyone knows noob robs spam it, so watch out)
sh -> double fair (landing with fair is very punishable, robs fair cant work like marths)
always using ftilt when someone is at the edge of ftilts range -> because it reaches so far out everyone has learned how to counter it because it used to be spammed all the time, so when you're using ftilt make sure not to ALWAYS use it when someone is at the edge of its range (mix it up a little bit u know, not saying to never do it because the moves still godlike, but, you cant ALWAYS do something, you feel me?)

 

[Mister Eric]

Just because you're ROB doesn't mean you can't save your 2nd jump. Especially against MK. A lot of ppl will blow their jump right after getting launched. It's very important to hang onto.

 

[BlueXenon]

Thankyou. I will try using tilts more and I usually save my jumps when I dont need to use them because I also use lucario and falco.

 

[Mister Eric]

Also, a lot of ROBs want to fire both projectiles one after the other out of habit. Unless you see this actually paying off, the opponent usually sees this coming.

 

[BlueXenon]

What is the best way to Di kill moves as Rob? I tried Uair, Fair, and they both dont slow me down when im hit at all.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

His sideB is a slight momentum cancel. I always see KiraFlax use fair and then airdodge, I don't think the airdodge does anything though.

 

[Zwarm]

ROB has very little momentum cancel. Your best option imo is to fair, then jump -> airdodge, or jump -> side B. His jump actually makes him lose momentum more than anything else, though its not always the best idea to be without a jump offstage.

 

[BlueXenon]

Thankyou. So he relies on his weight so survive and not on di?

 

[stingers]

thats not true about his jump zwarm. jump is a good option but only when you don't DI into the very topmost corner of the blastzone and your jump will give you height to get there. sadly jump actually acts as a momentum accelerator by a little bit, so just doing it when you're right next to the side of the blastzone can potentially kill you.

fair -> [jump] + side B or item toss -> [jump] + side b is best, but the side b barely helps at all, only helps you live 1% longer IIRC. still you never know if 1% will save you or not. I think it might help a little more when you throw a gyro or something instead of fair because you can activate side b a little quicker which can help stop your momentum a little bit more.

 

[Zwarm]

I guess I've been doing it wrong then XD

I do generally jump into the top corner of the stage though

 

[Mister Eric]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqxx74MclI

 

[BlueXenon]

Is rob good at forcing air dodges and then punishing them? I did that today.

 

[Mister Eric]

ROB is good as being deceiving by making people think they can air dodge and spot dodge to avoid ROB's aerials. And I mean, sure they can dodge them, but if you use bair or nair which stays out for days it can usually eat through their dodges.

 

[BlueXenon]

Thankyou..

 

[Bouffaloof]

Hey, i know i'm bumpin' this, but i would like to know what makes the MU vs ZSS really bad? With exception of the infinites?

 

[Mister Eric]

I feel as if I shouldn't be speaking for the ROBs about the ZSS MU. Maybe 8bit or someone who lives in a region with good ZSS can speak on the MU's behalf.
IMO tho, the MU isn't terrible. Just 40:60 at worst.

 

[tru0067]

How do I get off the ledge?

I got stuck there for 8 mins last time

 

[Nido]

What are the 3 best/worst stages to be on vs Lucas, Lucario and Wolf

 

[BlueXenon]

How do I be less predictable with Rob?
I feel like the things I can do with Rob are very little compared to what I can do with metaknight, my other main.

 

[dettadeus]

that's probably because meta knight is meta knight
and rob is not meta knight

condition your opponent to make them think you will always do one thing in a particular situation then start doing something else

 

[Overswarm]

How do I get off the ledge?

I got stuck there for 8 mins last time

Don't get off the ledge. :B

 

[BlueXenon]

that's probably because meta knight is meta knight
and rob is not meta knight

condition your opponent to make them think you will always do one thing in a particular situation then start doing something else

Thankyou but the problem is I don't know new things I can do with Rob.

 

[tru0067]

Don't get off the ledge. :B

Even when your 1% down

 

[Overswarm]

Even when your 1% down

lasers


lots of lasers

 

[Bouffaloof]

Hey guys,
Quick question about d-tilt. I know it's a good move, but every time I try to use it, I get punished for it. When is the best time for it?

 

[8Bitman]

Don't use DTilt as an approach/stationary move. ONLY use DTilt as a punish. It sets up for Grab and at High %'s gives us stage control.

Hey, i know i'm bumpin' this, but i would like to know what makes the MU vs ZSS really bad? With exception of the infinites?

I never read this, sorry if you don't care anymore.

If the opponent knows how to do the Infinite then it is 30:70 ~ R.O.B:ZSS. However if the opponent does not know it, it is 40:60 ~ R.O.B:ZSS. As much as I would like to say otherwise it will be in ZSS's Favor. This is because our punishes involve a Gyro/ a Grab/ a FTilt/ Fair/ Jab/ or a DTilt. These are our fastest and only punishes that work.

ZSS's moves end far to fast for us to do anything else. Yet ZSS's punishes involve Uair/ DSmash/ UTilt/ FTilt(But it will prob never be used)/ and Bair. While we have more options, they simply do petty damage. While every single one of ZSS's punishes lead into Frame traps, stage control, or the infinite(If applicable).

We can gain stage control very easily, and ZSS's SideB is easily prevented with Gyro/Laser/FTilt but all of ZSS's other options and Kill potential reign's over ours.

Either way, regardless of skill ALWAYS expect them to know the infinite, getting too cocky can end in kills.

 

[BlueXenon]

I just played a ZSS as Rob. I definitely hit the ZSS more than she hit me, but I still lost the match. Most of my hits were from ftilt and gyro.

 

[Funbun]

I just played a ZSS as Rob. I definitely hit the ZSS more than she hit me, but I still lost the match. Most of my hits were from ftilt and gyro.

Good question, but I dunno how to answer this.

 

[Leisha]

I find she can juggle you super easy, which sort of sucks. If you get the chance to gimp her, thats always good . But yeah, Its one of the matchups I dont feel comfortable with. She just feels like shes in control more, or I'm probably just not very good at the game .

 

[Raffi815]

ROBway2gud

 

[BlueXenon]

When I get hit far offstage vs Kirby, how can I get back to the ledge or stage safely every time? I tried a lot of different things against the last kirby I played and sometimes I made it back, and other times I got hit and died.

 

[dettadeus]

Probably heavily dependent on the stage, but:
If I got hit high up, I would either UpB way up and fall back onto the stage, mixing up my descent by Gyrobouncing, or turn around and threaten to Nair/Bair every time Kirby gets near me.
If I was sent low (somehow... I don't think any of Kirby's moves send at any kind of a low angle except for his Dair) I would probably Uair on my way up or just get to the ledge ASAP.
I think our Fair might even outrange Kirby's Bair, but I haven't played the matchup seriously before (the only Kirby player in my state is more a ROB player ;P) so I don't have much experience in it.

 

[BlueXenon]

Thankyou. I think my mistake was recovering low every time.

 

[Sudai]

I wold recommend recovering from the side instead of high or low. You can turn around so you have BAir to push him away but FAir works well too. You won't have to worry about UAir since ROB is weak when being attacked from below and you avoid the low recovery problems.

 

[dettadeus]

Doesn't ROB have significantly higher air speed than Kirby though? We can outmaneuver him coming down from above.

 

[Sudai]

While true I just really hate being above people with ROB and our FAir and BAir both outrange Kirby's BAir.

 

[Mister Eric]

B-reversals really help the whole "being above someone" scenario. Only person I rly struggle against now is Marth

 

[Zwarm]

Recover low against Kirby. Your up air beats his down air every time. Trust me.

 

[Leisha]

I find kirby is a super easy matchup providing you dont be silly and get Fsmashed at a low %.