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ROB Community Guide
- Thread starter GwJ
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GwJ
Smash Hero
Ok, I'm loading up brawl with debug mode now. I'll post my results here.
edit: Stopped editing at get-up attacks so you guys can see the info I'm getting so far. Not done yet.
edit2: Turns out we didn't have data on ROB's sourspot Ftilt. It does 5%.
edit3: WAT! Pivot grab grabs 1 frame slow, but ends 6 frame slower than standing grab and 4 frame shorter than running grab.
edit4: Taking a break for food.
edit5: Frame data done, what do you think?
edit: Stopped editing at get-up attacks so you guys can see the info I'm getting so far. Not done yet.
edit2: Turns out we didn't have data on ROB's sourspot Ftilt. It does 5%.
edit3: WAT! Pivot grab grabs 1 frame slow, but ends 6 frame slower than standing grab and 4 frame shorter than running grab.
edit4: Taking a break for food.
edit5: Frame data done, what do you think?
GwJ
Smash Hero
Bumping because I'm adding a real treat in a few minutes (like an hour)
I added three gifs under advanced techniques. I'll add more at a later date because it's 2:30 AM now. Make sure you don't stop submitting ideas and other stuff for the guide. It is a COMMUNITY guide after all.
I added three gifs under advanced techniques. I'll add more at a later date because it's 2:30 AM now. Make sure you don't stop submitting ideas and other stuff for the guide. It is a COMMUNITY guide after all.
I think you left out the fact that you can renew your second jump without using the ground. (Not sure, I only skimmed through the guide, sorry.)
It's the Roboburner > aerial > second jump. Like I asked you before in the Q&A thread, I guess you can do it with tap jump on because you're just so pro. =O
It's the Roboburner > aerial > second jump. Like I asked you before in the Q&A thread, I guess you can do it with tap jump on because you're just so pro. =O
GwJ
Smash Hero
you can't renew it. After you use it you must hit the ground. However if you don't use it and you go from roboburner > Aerial, you CAN use your second jump after that. As far as we know now, ROB has no second jump renewal.
kingcobra9
Smash Ace
this is a great guide guys especially compared to the guides in other characters threads, the pics and detail are great congrats this is going way better than when it first started
GwJ
Smash Hero
Thanks! And since this is a community guide, it will never get outdated either, it will get revised and new additions added as needed.
kingcobra9
Smash Ace
i will still help if you need it ... the 3-4 of you guys have it under control though
GwJ
Smash Hero
Anybody can help and it would be appreciated.
There's a newest Direcory. :]
Well, for tips...
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EDGEGUARDING
Against some characters, edgeguarding is essential. Gimps are also part of the Edgeguard game and it's where ROB may win the match. He can gimp the characters below:
- Bowser
- Captain Falcon
- Donkey Kong
- Ganondorf
- Ike
- Link
- Mario
- Marth
- Olimar
- Ivysaur
- Wolf
There're some other characters that suffer with this, such as Diddy, Falco, Lucario, Lucas and some others. But ROB needs more edgeguard on them after Fair > Fair > Fair > .... I'll list what ROB can do:
- Diddy: Bair his Side B and don't let him to use a charged Up B hitting him with Fairs.
- Falco: We don't really need to do much on his Up B, just continue using Fairs until he can't get back to the stage. And the same as Diddy's Side B and his'.
- Lucario: He need to use his Up B to stick under the stage and that's the time that you'll try a Stage Spike.
- Lucas: When he tries to Up B, throw a Gyro or shoot a laser.
There're some that it's impossible to go off-stage, and those are most of ROB's worst Match-ups because going off-stage in too essential for him. Don't go off-stage against(they're better than you there):
- G&W
- Jiggly
- DDD
- Kirby
- MK
NEVER!
Well, for tips...
...
EDGEGUARDING
Against some characters, edgeguarding is essential. Gimps are also part of the Edgeguard game and it's where ROB may win the match. He can gimp the characters below:
- Bowser
- Captain Falcon
- Donkey Kong
- Ganondorf
- Ike
- Link
- Mario
- Marth
- Olimar
- Ivysaur
- Wolf
There're some other characters that suffer with this, such as Diddy, Falco, Lucario, Lucas and some others. But ROB needs more edgeguard on them after Fair > Fair > Fair > .... I'll list what ROB can do:
- Diddy: Bair his Side B and don't let him to use a charged Up B hitting him with Fairs.
- Falco: We don't really need to do much on his Up B, just continue using Fairs until he can't get back to the stage. And the same as Diddy's Side B and his'.
- Lucario: He need to use his Up B to stick under the stage and that's the time that you'll try a Stage Spike.
- Lucas: When he tries to Up B, throw a Gyro or shoot a laser.
There're some that it's impossible to go off-stage, and those are most of ROB's worst Match-ups because going off-stage in too essential for him. Don't go off-stage against(they're better than you there):
- G&W
- Jiggly
- DDD
- Kirby
- MK
NEVER!
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Jigglypuff is a bad matchup for R.O.B.?
News to me.
News to me.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
U can try to go offstage against D3 cause his air speed and fall wait is terrible, therefore, Fairs can help somewhat, its the best way to get good damage, and possibly an early kill.
GwJ
Smash Hero
I go offstage against Jiggs as well. Jiggs can't do diddly to kill me if I go offstage unless I go on the opposite side.
DDD off-stage against ROB > ROB off-stage against DDD
About Jiggly.. well, it isn't a bad Match-up. Therefore i edited my post saying that most of those characters are bad MUs. And we can't rack up much damage off-stage vs Jiggly. So, i prefer campiering ^.-
GwJ
Smash Hero
That inequality is situational. DDD > ROB offstage when DDD is edgeguarding ROB. ROB > DDD offstage when ROB is edgeguarding DDD.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
I agree with you Mike, just pointing out (and GW got it) that when rob is edgeguarding, he has a chance at an early kill, what makes rob goog is gimpimg, he has to use it whenever possible. thats all
Stockfield
Smash Champion
This was so helpful thanks a lot for doing this guys.
Silhouette
Smash Lord
Once she starts with the WOP a sweetspotted fair could be curtains for the bot, and our massive hitbox makes this tough to avoid. The Jiggs matchup is a giant battle for air control, she will SH and dance in and out of our range poking at us with her little feet, making it not necessarily a 'bad' matchup... but.. different.
Mr.E
Smash Lord
It's like fighting Wario except without a ground kill move, a once-a-minute bomb, and survivability.
Silhouette
Smash Lord
seven7xenon
Smash Rookie
May I just say this was a really nice guide and helped me a lot it getting to know ROB more thoroughly.
Peppers
Smash Apprentice
What about putting a section on doubles? ROB is very useful at doubles so wouldn't a doubles "partner" strategy be good? For example: How to play ROB with Olimar in doubles. etc etc for each effective doubles character.
GwJ
Smash Hero
I'm not good at all in doubles, so I would need someone else to make it.
ForgottenPatriot
Smash Rookie
R.O.B feels more of a one on one fighter.
Sudai
Stuff here
Nooo, I looovvveeee 2v1s as ROB. They're so fun. X)
CJTHeroofTime
Smash Lord
This.
Its like super-camping, chock full o'nairs.
Although I would absolutely LOVE some doubles advice/strats. *looks at chibo*
Tin Man
Smash Hero
dont camp a lot, ur teammate will eat it as well. The laser is great for combo kills, and for saving ur team mate. Use the gyro coutiously, u will still need it, space well, be a bit more agressive, and make sure ur back is to ur team mate when u decide to camp. U can't ignore his moveset, so u just have to know when to use it. When u grab the opponent and grab release them into ur team mate, let ur team mate do the smash attack, ROB's Usmash wont hit them, D smash isnt good, so Fsmash is all he really has out of the grab release trap, but there are better options, ur teammate will probably have a better option anyways. Don't do double rob 
GwJ
Smash Hero
My partner is usually bad that I partner with (friendship johns), so it's always me vs. the two other guys. I actually pull the win off 50% of the time and I enjoy it so much.
Sudai
Stuff here
People need to learn to aim projectiles around their team mate. I did and they're even better than they were in 1v1s.
Bandit
Smash Lord
Not if you have a Zelda friend
Something about having a Dinslinger behind you is comforting.
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When I haven't used Zelda and I have teamed with JCaesar, he keeps the lasers high and uses the gyro as his main projectile.
GwJ
Smash Hero
People learn to aim themselves at their teammates when they're hit so they don't die until like never.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
partner with a character that has a reflector, then use em epic physics mind games, think or creative angles to fire the gyro, and fully charged laser, and make ur opponents **** themselves
=]
=]
Sudai
Stuff here
I already do all that without a team mate. lol
Tin Man
Smash Hero
shoot the gyro under the ledge, I gotta use that one more
Sudai
Stuff here
You'd be surprised how many people it catches off guard.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
aiming gyro JUST above the edge so it collides with the stage and you can get onstage safely = ****
Sudai
Stuff here
Nah, wall bounced reverse-edge guards are where it's at.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
on battle feild, i aim a non charged gyro by shorthoping while facing the center, while standing near one of the edges. I short hop, the fire it, it stays on the platform, screws up characters like marth and wario, now I then concentrate on a ground game under the gyro, knowing they cant hop over me, and be gay
stingers
Smash Obsessed
lol I hit a meta waiting to up b me with a full charge gyro by bouncing it on the wall and killed him...it was so ****ing sexy