Religion... Sigh...

[Nysyarc]

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I read your channel. You really need help whether you want to believe and accept that or not.

I don't associate with people like you so I am severing contact with you as of now.

I just need to vent right now because people like him frustrate me so much...

I don't mind people who are religious or have religious beliefs at all. I have always been an understanding person who accepts people for who they are and what they believe in. I do not however like it when religious people try to press their beliefs on non-religious people. I am an atheist; I am a factual and logical person, and based on facts and logic, I have personally concluded that a god does not exist.

People like him frustrate and confuse me to no end. I can accept his beliefs and his characteristics, and yet he insists zealously that I need to seek 'help' and that I am wrong, I am lost, I know nothing, and I understand nothing... simply because I am atheist.

He says he does not like egotistical and conceited people, and yet he sits himself on a throne high above everyone who does not share his views. It's people like him who are poisoning this world. People who strictly believe that everyone else is doing the poisoning and cannot open their minds to ideas other than the ones they were brought up with.

I'm not saying I'm a perfect person, far from it, but people who can't understand and accept others for their differences are the ones who need help. That is why I disagree with religions. I can accept people who are religious, but the world would be several thousand times better without religion. Obviously religious people would be quick to disagree... which is the part that makes me sad.

Children in religious families are brainwashed and fed full of bull about how anyone who doesn't share their beliefs is lost. They're brought up thinking they are indefinitely right, and to never use logic or common sense. It is archaically wrong and cruel to raise a child on a single belief and force them to live their life with a closed mind and an inability to express themselves freely.

So really, through the course of this rant, I have changed my original opinion of that guy. I no longer hate his guts, I just pity him. It's a shame he had to grow up with a singular mindset, unable to make any choices for himself as to what path he wanted to follow. The problem is, he will now raise any children he has in the same manner, cruelly forcing them to believe one thing, and thinking he is righteous and benevolent for doing so.

I'm not saying that all religions or all religious people are like that. I know there are understanding people who are religious, because I know many personally. However even one person who is that zealously religious is a problem, and as cruel as it was for them to have been raised that way, they will be just as cruel to their children.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but if it does, maybe you should think about why it offends you. Because this should not offend anyone with an open mind, even if you are religious. I have nothing against religion since it already exists and is widespread; but if it were up to me, religions would not exist.

 

[Clownbot]

First of all, unless he went so far as to put you on his "ignore" list or something, you should link him to this thread.

Btw, why are these religious blogs all the rage now?

 

[:mad:]

Yes, because we need more blogs on religion. This could very well be closed for an hour because you are in fact saying some things that offend people.

Just sayin'.

Edit: Ninja'd. Wish granted, but it smells funny.

I wish for some ribs.

 

[Firus]

People like that annoy me too. Elitists suck, and it's even worse with religion because people are so much more touchy about it than opinions.

But, it makes me sad that the User Blogs is turning into religion central. That's what makes me visit the Debate Hall sparsely (although the religion overload has severely slowed down there).

There is a LOT to rant about with religion, but it gets ugly FAST. Especially with the super-zealous people of both sides.

 

[Nysyarc]

Yes he did block me on YouTube immediately after insulting me. And of course I'm the conceited one >_>

I know this will offend some people, but that's part of the problem. It shouldn't. It will only offend people who can't bring themselves to understand my point of view. I can almost guarantee you a thread refuting scientific facts would not be closed...

 

[DarkAura]

This has been my opinion on this subject for atleast a year now, just havent been able to word it properly T_T,

Anyways i Agree with all of this and of course everyone who isn't atheist won't.... Can't wait till cookiemonster reads this

Good read..? (i say that to everything >.>)

 

[Clownbot]

Btw (I didn't just edit my older post for fear that you'd miss this comment), you're making a bit of a generalization at some parts of the blog. For example, I sincerely doubt (even if I can't prove it ) that all religious families force their children into their religion.

 

[Nysyarc]

Btw (I didn't just edit my older post for fear that you'd miss this comment), you're making a bit of a generalization at some parts of the blog. For example, I sincerely doubt (even if I can't prove it ) that all religious families force their children into their religion.

Yes, I edited in a paragraph near the bottom to clear that up. But even just a few families being that cruel to a child is too much. Every child deserves a fair chance to make their own choices. If they choose to be religious, good for them, I have no problem with that; but it should be their choice to make so that they have a chance to study and understand other viewpoints. Understanding breeds empathy, and there isn't enough empathy in our world today.

 

[POKE40]

Btw, why are these religious blogs all the rage now?

Don't forget about teenage problems and phoenix wright .


As a Christian I don't find this offensive .

I didn't like how that Near116 responded to Nysyarc. He is assuming that he is living in an "upper classed" society based on his beliefs. That would tick me off even if we shared the same belief .

Then he belittles you since you don't believe what he believes.
He should have accepted your differences instead of stating you are "lost" soul.

Sorry that happened to you dude.
I agree with your statement above.

 

[Clownbot]

@Nysyarc: I agree with you there. I was raised Catholic (and I still consider myself that atm), but I'm kind of interested in Agnosticism. I mean, can anyone really prove whether or not there is a God?

 

[BOB SAGET!]

well im a catholic and i obviously believe in god and jesus etc......

What Near116 said was wrong I agree.

But i disagree with u saying that the world wud be a better place without religon. Religon really helps people deal with their lives and feel comforted. And most of the world believes religon is true. I believe aswell. I believe there is a god.

Anyway there is scientific evidence of life after death.

But basiclly u saying religon is bull may insult some people. Its your opinion yes but might insult others.

For example if i said athiests r a bunch of faithless dissapointments in life, I bet that wud insult some athiests.

 

[Nysyarc]

@Nysyarc: I agree with you there. I was raised Catholic (and I still consider myself that atm), but I'm kind of interested in Agnosticism. I mean, can anyone really prove whether or not there is a God?

Exactly, and because you are open-minded to other beliefs, you are able to understand them even if you don't choose to follow them in the end. You can learn a lot more about life and experience a lot more of the world and what it has to offer if you have an open mind and are able to accept and understand others.

I'm not anti-religious at all. If someone is religious, I'll accept them just the same as anyone else as long as they will accept me back. And of course there are non-religious people are closed-minded as well, and I have just as much pity for them.

So really, this isn't about religion but just understanding and open-mindedness in general, because anyone can have a closed mind and it's a sad reality

 

[Teran]

Please no, God tell me I'm hallucinating.

 

[Nysyarc]

Anyway there is scientific evidence of life after death.

I don't want to start a debate here so... I'm going to pretend you never said that

But basiclly u saying religon is bull may insult some people. Its your opinion yes but might insult others.

I never said religion is bull, I said that some over-zealously religious families raise their children on the belief that everyone else is wrong and lost except them, which is bull.

I also understand that religion helps comfort people with the belief that there is something greater shaping our lives and something to look forward to after death. It's a very nice thing to believe and I wouldn't blame someone for choosing to believe it.

 

[BOB SAGET!]

I don't want to start a debate here so... I'm going to pretend you never said that



I never said religion is bull, I said that some over-zealously religious families raise their children on the belief that everyone else is wrong and lost except them, which is bull.

I also understand that religion helps comfort people with the belief that there is something greater shaping our lives and something to look forward to after death. It's a very nice thing to believe and I wouldn't blame someone for choosing to believe it.

Religon is iinterpeted in different ways. Yes i agree that saying people who r different r lost r wrong. But it will insult others who interpet it differently.

Ever heard of EVPs nyke?

 

[†Slader7†]

There shall always be ignorant people in this world. They will always criticize things but don't let that get to you. I personally think you did a good job by venting your feelings.

 

[sammy p]

i can totally understand where your coming from!!
i am actually deeply religious and i will never deny it.
but trust me, if people are willing to listen about god and i can actually talk about it then ill do so. but if youre not willing to listen..... ill leave you alone and will not talk to you about the matter again! haha

ninja'd... i agree with slader! hahah

 

[RyuReiatsu]

Nysyarc, I hate you! asd!Q@R12r1

*Cough*
Okay no, really. I have the exact same opinion as you.
You've worded it pretty well I think. I don't need to repeat every single thing you've said...
I think that this thing just happened at a very bad moment. *Points at UB's numerous Religious threads*
Which is why Teran cried . You should comfort him, you totally should...

Don't take that guy too seriously.
I mean, look at his nickname...

Near116
Near116
Near116
Near116

 

[POKE40]

Please no, God tell me I'm hallucinating.

God responded:

Teran, Teran! You are hallucinating.
~God

I believe this is how you're feeling:

Why is there so many religion threads lately? XD

 

[bobson]

Another God**** religion thread?

Yes, people who try to force you to accept their views and react horribly when you don't are annoying. Whether they are Christians, Catholics, Muslims, atheists, Republicans, Democrats, environmentalists, vegetarians, meat-eaters, Melee players, Brawl players, SSB64 players, anime lovers, sitcom lovers, reality TV lovers, girls, guys, pro-SCUB, anti-SCUB, right-wingers, left-wingers, fat, skinny, black, white, Asian, bike riders, car riders, bus riders, FPS players, RPG players, RTS players, Wii owners, XBox owners, PS3 owners, old, young, or people who order everything double size, they are all share the same trait of being ****ing annoying when they try to push their own views on you.
We know this. We understand this. We all deal with people like this. Stop making threads about this.

 

[DarkAura]

I believe this is how you're feeling:

Why is there so many religion threads lately? XD

actually i think it's just a coincidence.

EDIT: lol at the post above me

 

[Darkslash]

YOUR LACK OF FAITH DISTURBS ME.

*breaths heavily through life support unit"

This is strange about every thing you say, I never encountered such behaviors at my school, AND YES, in the 8th grade we HAD TO roll play as other religions for our, yes, RELIGION CLASS. If any thing I'm getting tired of religion bashing threads because all they seem to do is impose their beliefs onto other people, like *GASP* OLD CHRISTIANITY.

TS;dr

History repeats its self.

 

[highfive]

Another God**** religion thread?

lol!

I would be offended by this blog if I hadn't sold my soul for the power to give a righteous high five to those who desperately need it.

 

[RyuReiatsu]

YOUR LACK OF FAITH DISTURBS ME.

*breaths heavily through life support unit"

This is strange about every thing you say, I never encountered such behaviors at my school, AND YES, in the 8th grade we HAD TO roll play as other religions for our, yes, RELIGION CLASS. If any thing I'm getting tired of religion bashing threads because all they seem to do is impose their beliefs onto other people, like *GASP* OLD CHRISTIANITY.

TS;dr

History repeats its self.

They're more about Religious Extremists.
I don't see any bashing of religion at the moment. We can all admit it, religions have their flaws... The teachings say that the non-believers are lost and will burn in hell . At least, most religious people don't believe in that kinda bad crap anymore and leave the Atheists alone. (Unfortunately, Atheist Extremists do exist too -.-...)

In the end, we all get pissed at extremists OR because we're an extremist ourselves. Right? Everybody would be happy if extremists didn't exist :embarrass.

Count how many times I've repeated "Extremists", gosh my posts are poorly worded and I should really fix it up...

 

[Omis]

Anyway there is scientific evidence of life after death.

Links or some other thoughts because I have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[highfive]

Anyway there is scientific evidence of life after death.

If it's from Wikipedia I ain't buying it.

 

[RyuReiatsu]

Links or some other thoughts because I have no clue what you are talking about.

I feel like BobSaget! might be an extremist...
As he seems to purposely dig for offensive things. The OP didn't mean any harm and he still doesn't let go of the guy's balls.

If it's from Wikipedia I ain't buying it.

*High Fives*

 

[Xivii]

A year or two ago I went to this teen church service thing and they did this skit where there was this dude who never did anything wrong and his whole life he did nothing but help people and one day he got in a car accident, died, and his spirit went to hell. When he got there he asked why he was in hell, and an angel or demon or something (I forgot) told him it was because he never offered himself to Jesus. And that even though he was a good person he couldn't go to heaven becauses he never openly offered himself to Jesus...

I sat there blank the rest of the service. Near the end they had this thing where you go up to the front and "offer yourself to Jesus". I was the only one who stayed seated.

I still keep god in my spirit but I in no way believe that a person is "lost" or that people "go to hell" if they don't believe in the same things.

Spoiler

Buddism ftw

 

[BOB SAGET!]

I feel like BobSaget! might be an extremist...
As he seems to purposely dig for offensive things. The OP didn't mean any harm and he still doesn't let go of the guy's balls.



*High Fives*

im not an extremist. How the hell do u make that assumption. Anyway EVPs r scientific evidence if u believe it to be cause it does show proof.

 

[RyuReiatsu]

im not an extremist. How the hell do u make that assumption. Anyway EVPs r scientific evidence if u believe it to be cause it does show proof.

An assumption is an assumption, right?
I won't argue though, as you're all pissed and I don't want to draw anymore attention than it already has.

Just show us proofs, please.

I could say "Gay people die in hell and are dangerous D:... THERE ARE PROOFS. PROOFS!"
All of you: What the **** are you talking about? Show us real proofs?
And I'd answer: "HAY, BIBLE SAID SOOO. It's solid !!"

 

[sammy p]

I still keep god in my spirit but I in no way believe that a person is "lost" or that people "go to hell" if they don't believe in the same things.

agreed 100%!!!!

 

[Mr. Rogu]

I dont really know how to start my reply so ill just get to the bottom of this.

Nysyarc: I agree with most of the stuff you said. Especially how you said that kids are practically brainwashed by their parents. Yes, kids should have a choice for what they want to believe in but when they are in elementary school, they dont really have their opinion on the subject yet cause they could honestly care less about. Besides, kids are being taught to listen to their parents no matter what during that time. Now once they hit middle/high school, they start developing their own state of mind and start questioning about the subject. (if they care enough) Some kids believe it, others say its bull and push the religion aside.

Take me for example, Im a christian and i've believed in christianity my whole life but for the past few months, ive really started questioning my religion just cause things havent been going so well for me lately that i want to happen but it just seems like it wont happen. Like I have two major issues right now. I finally solved one last week after months of trying to solve it but like literally the next day, another huge issue came up thats gonna take a while to fix. I right now have no idea on where im at of if i believe at all. And now my mom worries about me. I dont mean to worry her but shes not gonna make me believe 100% again. I have to do that myself but for now, i just want to see what happens in my life.

The only thing I disagree with is that you saying there should be a world without religion. Troubled people go to it and find comfort and eventually can go on with their life. Religion is not for everyone, i know that for a fact but for most people, its almost like a lifestyle and they enjoy it. (at least i think so.)

Yeah, it is annoying when people act all stuck up because they believe in their religion saying they are saved or whatever and then tell you if you dont believe youll be dead forever. But their is rarely a few of those people in christianity. most people are just trying to help you.

 

[BOB SAGET!]

An assumption is an assumption, right?
I won't argue though, as you're all pissed and I don't want to draw anymore attention than it already has.

Just show us proofs, please.

Im not pisssed, i aint gonna debate with u guys because theres is no point.

I said evps

 

[:mad:]

If it's from Wikipedia I ain't buying it.

Wikipedia is a trustworthy site, so long as you check the sources.

It irks me that some people assume it's all false info without realizing that Wikipedia takes care of itself.

 

[DarkAura]

im not an extremist. How the hell do u make that assumption. Anyway EVPs r scientific evidence if u believe it to be cause it does show proof.

you are an extremest when it comes to everything, observe everyone as i can easily start a pointless argument with bob

Olimar sucks and all you do is spam side b the only reason you can beat me is cause you camp all day long and you do the exact three things over and over

 

[†Slader7†]

Debates about Religion is pointless, everybody will go home believing the same thing they did before they started.

 

[RyuReiatsu]

Huge well-spaced wall of text.

Yeah, it is annoying when people act all stuck up because they believe in their religion saying they are saved or whatever and then tell you if you dont believe youll be dead forever. But their is rarely a few of those people in christianity. most people are just trying to help you.

I agree in most of what you've said except the last part.
There are A LOT of those people in Christianity. Even the ones who want to help you are at fault. As it means that they are close-minded and push religions onto you.

With good intentions or not, they're still not behaving properly.
That's like stealing your neighbors and giving the stolen goods to poor people. If you want to help them, give them stuffs that you acquire legally and properly. As for the religious people, if they want to help you... They should simply try explaining it. And if you don't want to listen to them, then they should simply leave you alone.

And that's where things get ****ed up, they don't stop.

Debates about Religion is pointless, everybody will go home believing the same thing they did before they debated.

I wish it would change extremists , but that won't happen.

Im not pisssed, i aint gonna debate with u guys because theres is no point.

I said evps

Give us a solid link.

EDIT: Oh and Bob. YOU ARE PISSED! LOL.

 

[Mr. Rogu]

I agree in most of what you've said except the last part.
There are A LOT of those people in Christianity. Even the ones who want to help you are at fault. As it means that they are close-minded and push religions onto you.

With good intentions or not, they're still not behaving properly.
That's like stealing your neighbors and giving the stolen goods to poor people. If you want to help them, give them stuffs that you acquire legally and properly. As for the religious people, if they want to help you... They should simply try explaining it. And if you don't want to listen to them, then they should simply leave you alone.

And that's where things get ****ed up, they don't stop.

well, im just saying the majority of christian people i know arent like that.

 

[†Slader7†]

well, im just saying the majority of christian people i know arent like that.

I agree with this guy.

 

[bobson]

well, im just saying the majority of christian people i know arent like that.

No, you were saying

But their is rarely a few of those people in christianity. most people are just trying to help you.

There's a stark contrast between those two statements. Consider "the majority of people I know are black" VS "people are rarely white."